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New HTPC Build Help
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Kenny536
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20. December 2010 @ 15:13 |
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I am building an HTPC for my parent's home. I have less than a week to research because I need to have it built and ready to go in two weeks. The budget is around 2500 but that is flexible.
I am new to this stuff and I need help. I have built a PC before, but I still don't know a lot about this. I have been researching a bit lately, but it is hard to figure out where to begin. I am hoping you guys can ask my questions to narrow down what it is exactly that I want.
This is going to be from scratch, meaning I also need to purchase a TV as well.
The majority of the $ will be going toward the TV, which is going to be 55" at the very minimum. Should have specified that, sorry.
Basically, what the HTPC will be used for is:
-Netflix/Watching movies that we have downloaded/blueray movies
-Streaming youtube videos
-Webcam chatting
-Playing music
-Viewing family pictures
I have Dish network. The Dish already has DVR playback. That has nothing to do with the HTPC - that is just something separate, because I think it will be too much of a hassle to integrate satellite into the HTPC.
It will be HDMI. We do have an external hard drive, but I'm sure it won't be enough and we'll have to store things in the HTPC hard-drive, or if it gets too loud, upstairs on the desktop PC and then network it to the HTPC downstairs somehow.
I was going to start from here, but a lot of that stuff in the link is over my head. From what I gather, I should figure out the type of mobo, because that will determine the type of case (form factor). It's a shame that the most recent edition (holiday edition) - he is making you pay for :(
I'm the type of person that likes to research everything to death before purchasing, to ensure that I get the most bang for my buck. So I tend to stray away from generic cookie cutter build recommendations, especially if it is outdated. But I would still consider the various parts on an individual basis.
Anything would be appreciated including:
[*]links to guides for htpcs
[*]links to good deals for tvs/pc parts
[*]any advice/guidance
Thanks!
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. December 2010 @ 16:26
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Kenny536
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20. December 2010 @ 22:37 |
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Budget wise for the actual HTPC - I was thinking 400, 600 at the very most but I'd prefer to stay under. I already have an OS CD for win 7 so that isn't an issue.
I was thinking about a SSD instead of an HDD. Why do you recommend an HDD? I am reading that SSD have quicker access time, lower power consumption, and less latency.
How would I go about choosing the form factor? You think the case should determine the form factor? I thought it would be vice versa, since mobo is more important I am assuming.
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Kenny536
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21. December 2010 @ 00:41 |
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For the dish integration - I thought it was really a big hassle based on reading this.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=166854
Am I missing something? I just need a tuner card and coax? Also, the DISH receiver is upstairs, and the HTPC will be downstairs, so that may be another problem right?
So here is what I am thinking for price range:
Mobo - ~$60 (most likely microATX)
CPU - ~$60 (maybe a dual core AMD?)
GPU - ~$80 (HDCP-capable, and maybe even passively cooled)
RAM - ~$40 (ddr3, 2gb is fine, 4 is overkill)
HDD - ~$70 (2TB!)
PSU - ~$??
Case - ~$??
Case Fan - Necessary??
Blu-Ray/DVD Player - ~??
Blue-ray software - will I need to buy this?
OS - Win7 Home 32 bit (I have the trial version)
Media center - XMBC or WMC (free)
TV - ~$1500 (55+", LCD or LED-LCD, HDMI, 1080P)
Speakers - ~?? (surround wireless? Probably too expensive)
Remote?
How does that all look? Am I missing things? Wireless card? Do I need that?
I plan on buying an okay CPU, and then offloading some the processing power to the GPU - is that feasible? I heard it may not work in Netflix.
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Kenny536
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22. December 2010 @ 16:53 |
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Kenny536
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24. December 2010 @ 02:10 |
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So I think I have a pretty good grasp on what kind of CPU/Mobo to purchase.
We purchased a $1600 Sony - BRAVIA 60" Class / 1080p / 120Hz / LED-LCD HDTV - KDL60EX700 (DISPLAY MODEL) from Sam's Club - no tax.
Next thing I want to focus on is the speaker system, which I am a complete newbie at, but I have been researching a bit.
Budget max is $400-450ish - is there anything out there like this for that price that meets the below requirements?
Living Room - 17x20x17
Kitchen - 17x12x9
The wireless rear speakers in the kitchen will be 30 feet away from the TV.
Home theater surround sound system requirements:
- 5.1
- wireless rear speakers (or cheap enough for me to buy a wireless rear kit like Rocketfish for $100?)
- HDMI input
- AV Receiver (either dedicated or included in the blueray or DVD player)
- reasonably high wattage
- DTS-HD or TrueHD audio format (how important is this?)
- good cross over design and THD
- 14 guage speaker wire should be adequate (right?)
Anyone know anything that meets this criteria?
So the best deal I've found so far is the Sony HTS-S370 - which meets all the above requirements besides the wireless rear speakers, which would be an additional 75-100$ to purchase (RocketFish). There was a recent deal in the past few months where this system, with a coupon code, was about $235 shipped - unfortunately, it is about a $100 more than that now. Anyone have any good deals/recommedations or advice?
Thanks!
P.S. We also purchased this for the universal remote:
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Multimedia-Remote-with-Keyboard/dp/B0036VO67I
Right now, it is $26 shipped with a coupon code
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Kenny536
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25. December 2010 @ 15:31 |
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I have been researching speaker systems heavily the last couple days, and I think I finally have a winner that meets all my requirements.
Sony HT-SS370 1 kW 5.1 Home Theater System
It is $258 shipped at thenerds.net with the -$8 holiday couponcode.
With the Bravia Sync, it is a perfect fit with our new Bravia TV.
The two requirements that it does not meet, by itself, is the wireless rear speakers and the true-HD/DTS-HD audio decoding in the A/V receiver.
The wireless rear speakers problem can be solved with the universal Rocketfish set, so +$110 (but we have a gift card!).
As for the true-HD/DTS-HD, that can still be done via LPCM even if the AV/Receiver does not decode that audio format. I have a PS3 and the blueray on there will do the decoding for those HD audio formats - so the blueray will do the decoding and send it to the A/V receiver.
So knowing that I am doing this, will it change any of the requirements for the hardware I need? I'll still be fine without a dedicated GPU? Whether that is having the GPU in the mobo, or included in the Intel i3 Clarkdale, either one will support the true-HD and everything else, right? Are there any problems that you guys anticipate I will have?
So the total will be:
$259 - Speaker system
$110 - Rocketfish
$15 - Tall front speaker stands
$238 - Pinnacle 56 Inch TV Stand with 2 Glass Doors - NEX1210 [link]
= $622
Now that all this is done, I can refocus on the HTPC hardware!
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Kenny536
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9. January 2011 @ 00:35 |
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Tried putting the PC together tonight. I think I may be doing something wrong. After finally putting everything in the case and plugging everything in through the PSU - I am not getting any power. The only thing I see that turns on is the Standby LED Powerlight on the motherboard. :( I really don't want to take everything out and troubleshoot it - but that is the only thing I can think of right now.
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Kenny536
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9. January 2011 @ 16:44 |
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Okay fixed it.
I didn't know that I had to hook up the power switch from CPU. In the desktop I built 2 years ago, flipping the PSU switch would turn everything on, at the very least the CPU fan, but I guess it is different in this one.
I have another problem though, of course.
Now my problem is that the CPU fan is unbearably loud for some reason. Could this be something to do with the motherboard or the cpu fan not being secured in the case? I thought they were pretty secure but something is definitely wrong. Also, one of the case fans is making a slight ticking noise - it is annoying even by itself even when i unplug the cpu fan - not sure why bc the other case fan right next to it is perfectly silent.
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Kenny536
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24. January 2011 @ 17:00 |
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Okay I have everything running now.
The two issues I bought up earlier sort of fixed themselves. The CPU fan isn't too loud anymore - I think it is just for a bit initially when booting up. And the case fan just stopped making noise, don't know why.
I have everything up and running and everything is great so far, no issues with the HTPC, AV Receiver, surround sound, or anything.
One thing I do need to test the TRUEHD/DTS HD Audio, haven't gotten to that yet.
Next thing I need to decide is if I want WMC or XMBC. Also ordering NetFlix for them.
Lastly, I want the HTPC to do webcam chatting. I don't know if this will work, but what I want to do is have two bluetooth microphones. One near the couch (15 ft from the TV), and one in the kitchen (25 ft from the tv). And obviously a web cam on top of the TV.
I would like it so the person can speak freely without having a headset or anything on, just speaking into the bluetooth mic in the kitchen or living room, and the person's voice on the other end can come through the surround sonud. I'm guessing there may be noise interference and feedback issues though.
Any thoughts or opinions on this? Anyone heard of people doing this before? Or anyone know any good deals on webcams/bluetooth mics?
Thanks!
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