Originally posted by funksoulb:

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You can try flashing back to stock and updating again. You can try booting the console while holding in the sync button (on the console) which can clear a stuck update. You can try removing all storage devices and updating via USB. You can try a combination of the things I've just mentioned.

Another member had the same issue and unfortunately, nothing worked for him so his console was bricked. This is why you should flash back to stock before updating the dashboard.

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Originally posted by Modking30:

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Originally posted by funksoulb:

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You can try flashing back to stock and updating again. You can try booting the console while holding in the sync button (on the console) which can clear a stuck update. You can try removing all storage devices and updating via USB. You can try a combination of the things I've just mentioned.

Another member had the same issue and unfortunately, nothing worked for him so his console was bricked. This is why you should flash back to stock before updating the dashboard.

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Madden doesn't brick consoles. Members who think this, don't know what they are talking about. Madden contains a system update of 13146. This guy probably has an older dash. To fix this, you must flash POST FW, then update, then flash back to LT 1.9.1. I have already fixed several of these.

Reference: http://www.pothsprojects.com/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=3160

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Probly known but i found a easy way to get the liteon 74x in vendor mode take it apart and move the laser to back of drive away from where the dvd spins start jungleflasher and click intro plug the drive in and move the laser to the front of the drive. For me that has got me in vendor mode everytime now nothing else had worked lol.

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Originally posted by funksoulb:

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Dashboard update 13146 also flashes your DVD drive with a new stock firmware, so when he says "POST FW" I assume he means the new stock firmware, rather than the old one.

The safest way to update is this: -

1. Flash back to stock
2. Update the dashboard to the latest version
3. Flash to the latest LT+ for your drive
4. Make sure any AP2.5 games you have are up to date with abgx360 before you even try to boot them (you must do this)

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Originally posted by justwantmadden:

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So I just purchased Madden 12 and am having the same issue with the game freezing during the required update to play it. I'm unsure of which drive or firmware I have, but it is an older Xbox 360 arcade with a 20g HD. All of this talk about flashing my drive goes way over my head. Is it really necessary to take my Xbox apart to update the firmware? Is that the only way Ill ever be able to play this game on my Xbox? If so where is the best place to start if I were to do it myself? This is a rediculous amount of crap to go through just to play a simple game.

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Originally posted by fandr78:

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Must you need to update to play the game? Or if you dont update,will it just not sign you into xbox live? Thanks in advance.

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Originally posted by user473:

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@rainman,yes have the new dash update and lt1.91 fw and ur good to go

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This tutorial is for those who are stuck in the dreaded "Update Loop"

This happened with Madden 12 & Body Count due to some new "security features" from Microsoft.

The reason for this tutorial is that there have been a lot of threads about it (including some from myself) and it'd be better if there's one place for people to go to for answers.

The Issue:
You accidentally or stupidly updated from your burned copy of Madden 12 or Body Count, and now every time you start your console you see this (or something very similar):





What this means:
Simply put, this update erased the custom firmware on your drive. That's it, it's gone.

Many people say it flashes back to stock, but I have found this to not be entirely true. Some people have said they've been able to do a USB update from this screen and it worked fine. For others, like myself, that didn't work.


Let's fix it:

Step 1 -

Flash back to your original stock firmware. This is the best and safest way to do it. Some people didn't need to flash back to stock in order to update, but others did. So to be safe, complete this step. If you're unsure how to do that, search around the tutorial section because there are dozens of topics about flashing.

Step 2-

Hopefully you remember which version of the Dashboard you were on before starting the update.

If you were on any Dashboard prior to 13146..
Download version 13146 here: link

If you were already on Dashboard 13146, then you need to download the 13599 update...
Download version 13599 here: link

Both updates are for USB.


Step 3 (Only if you were on a Dashboard prior to 13146!) -

Insert the USB drive with the 13146 Update on it. (Extract the $systemupdate folder to the root of the USB drive, update will continue automatically).

At this point, if you were on a Dashboard prior to 13146 when you attempted the Madden/BC update you should be out of the update loop! But you're not done yet!


Step 4 (Only if you are already on Dashboard 13146!) -

Flash your console to LT 1.91 (easy step, right?)

Step 5 -

Once your console is flashed to LT 1.91, update to Dashboard 13599 (link above) using a USB drive. If you're using the same USB drive you used to update to 13146, make sure you erase that $systemupdate folder first. Then extract the $systemupdate folder for the 13599 update onto the root of the USB.

Let the update run, it will restart your console and ask if you want to update the firmware, select Yes.

The update will complete and you're done!

You're out of the update loop and you're running LT 1.91. So go and play the newest games to your heart's desire.

If you have issues or questions, post them here and I'll answer them the best I can. Also if you think anything should be added to this post, let me know.

Good luck!

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