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Open Discussion with MODS
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AfterDawn Addict
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9. January 2010 @ 12:01 |
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Mods & all users who care/want to chime in,
I do not appreciate the deletion of threads. When I try to have an open discussion, you just delete the thread. Quite honestly, I believe it is because I am making great points, and there really is no rebuttal to them.
This section has gotten out of hand. I really wish, I could see my previous post (that you deleted) so I could ask the same questions to you. But some of the main points were:
If a member write a tutorial on any of the other major scene forum sties, and posts a link to that guide on here, how would that also be wrong? That's just being short sighted, and not allowing good information on this site.
I can understand if that site is spamming you, full of ads, but if it's not, and you see that there is a legitimate tutorial written, you are only hurting the end users by deleting/censoring that post.
I'm going to ask that you mods follow the rules now. Stop censoring specific sites. Dont pick and choose when you enforce these "rules". Start treating everyone and all places of good information fair.
If this does not happen, I will pull all the major contributors from this section, and I guarantee that.
However, I've been happy with being here, and we would like a resolution to this. Please let it happen.
If you think about deleting this, get an admin first. Have them post here/get into contact with me.
Any time threads like this are deleted, or you suspend me for unfounded reasons, it only makes my case stronger.
need jtag help? Xbox 360 console repair? PM me or chatThis message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 9. January 2010 @ 12:02
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9. January 2010 @ 21:26 |
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Originally posted by guessswho:
Mods & all users who care/want to chime in
There will be no other users who will "chime in". This is an issue of which you are being held accountable for and no one else needs to interject since it is not of their business. This has become way to much of a public "debate" about items that you don't agree with, and no one should add their "2 cents". The issue is with YOU and YOU alone here.
Originally posted by guessswho:
I do not appreciate the deletion of threads. When I try to have an open discussion, you just delete the thread. Quite honestly, I believe it is because I am making great points, and there really is no rebuttal to them.
If the thread is removed it is removed for a reason that you should not concern yourself with.
Originally posted by guessswho:
This section has gotten out of hand. I really wish, I could see my previous post (that you deleted) so I could ask the same questions to you. But some of the main points were:
I really shouldn't even bother answering some of these next questions because it will only continue the problem/issue of which you just don't want to accept...but I will anyway for others to see and learn from.
Originally posted by guessswho:
If a member write a tutorial on any of the other major scene forum sties, and posts a link to that guide on here, how would that also be wrong? That's just being short sighted, and not allowing good information on this site.
It is one thing to offer FREE information out of the goodness of your heart to help others in need. What you are doing is not the same, as you are trying to PROFIT off the back of aD's traffic and OUR amount of members without paying aD.
Originally posted by guessswho:
I can understand if that site is spamming you, full of ads, but if it's not, and you see that there is a legitimate tutorial written, you are only hurting the end users by deleting/censoring that post.
There are more than enough FREE tutorials, FREE information & FREE help from MANY thousands of aD members here or anywhere on the internet. The occasional tutorial, link or whatever that is deemed inappropriate and removed from aD is well worth the lack of hassle/problem it gives us.
Originally posted by guessswho:
I'm going to ask that you mods follow the rules now. Stop censoring specific sites. Dont pick and choose when you enforce these "rules". Start treating everyone and all places of good information fair.
Here is where you REALLY crossed the line. You have ABSOLUTELY no say or right to tell...scratch that ~ make DEMANDS of ANY kind like that. If you don't like the rules of aD that are enforced here then simply LEAVE. Or we will HAPPILY show you the door. But since you want to try and site the rules here is 1 VERY important one you have failed to understand
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As we've received a record number of complains about users in console forums not violating the letter of our rules, but instead having what I call "bad attitude" towards other members, we've given our moderators free hands for the time being to ban permanently, without warning, people who don't contribute to the forums with their messages, but instead, try to make everybody's lives miserable in forums.
If you have happened to be banned in console forums for having a bad attitude, its useless to complain to our support about it. I've instructed our support personnel to reply with banning inquiries with phrase along the lines of "tough".
So if you want to continue pushing all of our buttons and questioning things about how aD is ran then you will be removed. This is your last and final warning.
Originally posted by guessswho:
If this does not happen, I will pull all the major contributors from this section, and I guarantee that.
Really? Just for that comment alone you should get a 2 week suspension if not a permanent one. aD has been running fine the way it has for the past 10 years in it's rule structure and you will follow them just as EVERYONE else has all this time. If you cannot adhere to that and listen to the mods when instructed then you need to move on.
Originally posted by guessswho:
If you think about deleting this, get an admin first. Have them post here/get into contact with me.
An admin is not necessary here for you, if they want/need to comment then they will (and believe me they are apprised very well about this situation). We (us mods) have been given the trust to deal with situations like this. And as described earlier aD has done ABSOLUTELY fine the way it is,the admins, owners & staff like it that way and have made this clear. aD does not have the inherent constant plaguing problems that MANY other sites have when it comes to fanboys, complainers, griefers and such. Now there are occasional situations such as this one where someone thinks they have "pull" or "weight" around here because they forgot what aD is here for...to help people, not make money off their backs.
Originally posted by guessswho:
Any time threads like this are deleted, or you suspend me for unfounded reasons, it only makes my case stronger.
Your attempt at reverse psychology here means nothing. The bottom line is you failed to follow the rules, were advised & warned, maybe even banned (or someone else in the same situation) and now you are trying to make an issue out of it. Not any more. You have been warned enough as well as have been given enough explanation about the issue. Either it ends here and you follow the rules/explanations/expectations & guidance given or not. If not then there will be consequences for those infractions. PERIOD.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 9. January 2010 @ 21:55
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9. January 2010 @ 21:47 |
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guessswho, we mods only answer to site admin not to members. we also have banned addicts before so if we ban you, you won't be the 1st or last addict given the toss so watch it as you are now on a short rope till further notice.
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