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Saints Row The Third - backup DVD issues
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nki00
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18. January 2013 @ 15:01 |
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I just re-modded my Samsung drive with iXtreme LT v2.01 patch. I then burned the "Saints Row The Third" that I downloaded off the web, using "good" Verbatim discs (they always produced good burns for me before.) The game loads up just fine but then I start having issues with it:
1. The Whored Mode is all messed up. The character can't move, the rendering is all funky.
2. When I start the campaign mode and then click "done" to go back to the main menu, the game freezes up so that I have to restart the xbox.
Note that when I play the game off my original DVD it works fine and none of these issues happen.
So I'm wondering, since the XGD3 games have to be cut off at the end to fit the standard 8GB disc size, can that mess this game up? Or what else could be causing this issue?
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19. January 2013 @ 09:10 |
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Sounds like you need a iHas Liteon burner (or equivalent) flashed with BurnerMax to write the entire image. An iHas124B is what I use. Are your XGD3 backups truncated? If so, then that's your problem. The burnermax firmware writes the entire XGD3 image. Make sure you run the image through abgx and all is clear before you burn. Truncated burns no longer work on newer dashboard versions. Also, when you burn an XGD3, you need to change your layer break settings. When burning an XGD3 image, in imgburn you need to change the layer break to 2133520, instead of 1913760 for older games. I hope this helps. If not, please ask questions.
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nki00
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19. January 2013 @ 16:55 |
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Thanks for suggestions.
Since I posted this question I tried burning another game Gears of War 3. I forgot about the layer break setting and burned it without setting one. Here's the log from ImgBurn:
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I 02:58:10 ImgBurn Version 2.5.7.0 started!
I 02:58:10 Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition (6.1, Build 7601 : Service Pack 1)
I 02:58:10 Total Physical Memory: 16,735,308 KB - Available: 5,503,320 KB
W 02:58:10 Duplex Secure's SPTD driver can have a detrimental effect on drive performance.
I 02:58:10 Initialising SPTI...
I 02:58:10 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 02:58:10 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GH50N B103 (D:) (ATAPI)
I 02:58:10 -> Drive 2 - Info: INID K1IRCDM 3.5Z (I:) (SCSI)
I 02:58:10 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM!
W 02:58:47 User accepted disc space warning and is attempting to truncate!
I 02:58:47 Operation Started!
I 02:58:47 Source File: C:\Users\DC\Desktop\GOW3\gow3.dvd
I 02:58:47 Source File Sectors: 4,267,015 (MODE1/2048)
I 02:58:47 Source File Size: 8,738,846,720 bytes
I 02:58:47 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROM
I 02:58:47 Source File Volume Set Identifier: cd690000MS UDFBridge
I 02:58:47 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)
I 02:58:47 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDF
I 02:58:47 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)
I 02:58:47 Destination Device: [0:1:0] HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GH50N B103 (D:) (ATAPI)
I 02:58:47 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00)
I 02:58:47 Destination Media Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x
I 02:58:47 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 02:58:47 Write Mode: DVD
I 02:58:47 Write Type: DAO
I 02:58:47 Write Speed: 2.4x
I 02:58:47 DVD+R DL Reserve Track: No
I 02:58:47 Link Size: Auto
I 02:58:47 Lock Volume: Yes
I 02:58:47 Test Mode: No
I 02:58:47 OPC: No
I 02:58:47 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 02:58:47 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x)
I 02:58:47 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
W 02:58:48 Optimal layer break position exceeds L0 capacity.
W 02:58:48 Optimal L0 Sectors: 2,133,520
W 02:58:48 Maximum L0 Sectors: 2,086,912
I 02:58:48 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,133,520
I 02:58:48 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: ECC Block Boundary
W 02:58:48 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Failed! - Reason: Invalid Field in Parameter List
I 02:58:48 Filling Buffer... (80 MB)
I 02:58:50 Writing LeadIn...
I 02:59:16 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4267014)
I 02:59:16 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4267014)
I 02:59:16 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2086911)
I 03:20:53 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 2086912 - 4267014)
I 03:42:31 Synchronising Cache...
I 03:42:32 Closing Track...
I 03:42:40 Finalising Disc...
I 03:43:47 Exporting Graph Data...
I 03:43:47 Graph Data File: C:\Users\DC\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVD+-RW_GH50N_B103_SATURDAY-JANUARY-19-2013_2-58_AM_MKM-001-00_2.4x.ibg
I 03:43:47 Export Successfully Completed!
I 03:43:47 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:44:54
I 03:43:47 Average Write Rate: 3,218 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,357 KB/s (2.4x)
As you see the LB is not what you posted. I tried playing it on my 360 with the Samsung TS-H943 DVD drive modded with LT v.2.01 and it starts just fine and I was even able to play Horde mode with it but then when the level was reloading it got hung up again and I had to restart the console.
Do you think that layer break setting could've done that? I read somewhere that the LB doesn't matter anymore for latest firmware versions.
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RIARA
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19. January 2013 @ 17:50 |
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you did 2 things wrong there, you didnt change the layerbreak to 2133520 and you truncated the image. you just split the image in half. if you are not going to use an iHas burner for your discs then you need to get the BurnerMax Payload tool, it allows you to use any burner for XGD3 titles. You can get it here, Downloads: BurnerMAX v0.15
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nki00
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19. January 2013 @ 21:18 |
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Originally posted by RIARA:
you did 2 things wrong there, you didnt change the layerbreak to 2133520 and you truncated the image. you just split the image in half. if you are not going to use an iHas burner for your discs then you need to get the BurnerMax Payload tool, it allows you to use any burner for XGD3 titles. You can get it here, Downloads: BurnerMAX v0.15
@RIARA Thanks! I tried the BurnerMax Payload tool and this is what it showed:
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BurnerMAX Payload Tool - Version: 0.15
Found 2 CD/DVD drives D: I:
DVD DL +R detected
BurnerMAX not enabled, YET !
BurnerMAX not enabled, YET !
Scanning: D:\ [HL-DT-STDVD+-RW GH50N B103]
Scanning failed!
Will try matching for known write only drives..
BurnerMAX not enabled, YET !
So I guess it doesn't work with my drive :(
So guys, can you recommend a DVD burner off Newegg or Amazon that you know would work?
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RIARA
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20. January 2013 @ 07:59 |
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i dont know, i have never used it before but, i found these instructions on how to use it
How it Works
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Load your favorite burning software. Insert your blank DVD+R DL disc. Send the BurnerMAX Payload. Re-select your drive in the burner software and the capacity will be increased.
You will need to send the BurnerMAX Payload evertime you insert a blank DVD+R DL disc.
Special vendor specific commands are sent to examine in realtime the drives custom registers, searching for specific DVD+R DL blank media capacity and layer capacity parameters.
If found these registers are modified using another set of vendor specific commands.
Due to the use of stock firmware and different burner makes and models, any settings the burner has play a more important role.
For iHas burners B, C and D, recommended settings are:
Force Hypertuning - Enabled
Online Hypertung - Disabled
Smartburn - Enabled
Overspeed - Enabled
OPC history - Do not clear
Results may vary depending on hardware and disc brand.
Verbatim DVD+R DL (Singapore Manufactured) Blank Discs are recommended for best results.
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nki00
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20. January 2013 @ 17:00 |
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RIARA
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20. January 2013 @ 18:44 |
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I read some of the reviews on there and they say that it does work with BurnerMax. I'd give it a go, heck, you might even get lucky and end up with a "B" version of the drive.
Official release of the BurnerMAX Payload Tool - works with most MTK chipset based DVD burners (Liteon etc)
- No need to flash burner firmware. Delivers a realtime payload to increase capacity of DVD+R DL discs to support XGD3
- Support for stock iHas B, C, and D burners, all makes and models
- Support for many of the Liteon iHAS Clones
- Supports many other mnodels such as ASUS, Samsung, Pioneer and many others
- Supports many Liteon and Samsung USB External Burners
- Supports many Liteon IDE Burners
- Supports any disc burning software - we recommend iMGBURN
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nki00
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20. January 2013 @ 18:57 |
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Originally posted by RIARA:
I'd give it a go, heck, you might even get lucky and end up with a "B" version of the drive.
Thanks for your help. I ordered one. I'll post a follow-up in here when I get it.
Just from curiosity, how would I know if I get a "B" version? (And I read somewhere that if it's a B version then I won't have to do BurnerMAX Payload Tool fix, right? So what is it, just like before -- you put the empty Verbatim 8GB disc in and just straight burn it?)
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RIARA
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20. January 2013 @ 19:14 |
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when you get the drive, just look on the label. if you do get a "B" version then you could either use the BurnerMAX Payload Tool or you could just flash it with BurnerMax. You also have to tweak your settings:
For iHas burners B, C and D, recommended settings are:
Force Hypertuning - Enabled
Online Hypertung - Disabled
Smartburn - Enabled
Overspeed - Enabled
OPC history - Do not clear
And yes, stick with the verbs. Then you gotta run your burns thru KProbe to check if it is a good burn. You might want to look into getting yourself an xK3y, no burning discs and no KProbe. You just rip, run thru ABGX, load iso file onto hard drive and run your games off that. The initial cost for everything is pricey but, well worth it in the long run.
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nki00
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29. January 2013 @ 16:49 |
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I eventually got the iHAS drive (linked above.) It wasn't B model, but I was able to use BurnerMAX Payload Tool fix suggested above to burn the full-sized game. Thanks for your help again!
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richietea
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30. January 2013 @ 04:58 |
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Quote "I then burned the "Saints Row The Third" that I downloaded off the web",didn't anyone else see the error before helping on this thread?? You should edit your original post,but its a little late now!!
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