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jt141990
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16. July 2011 @ 00:40 |
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First off let me state I don't know if this has already been asked, as it very well may have and I am sorry if it has.
I have a copy of call of duty 4: modern warfare it is one of my most entertaining games with live. I have kids and with that comes accidents and my game is now ruined I have tried tons of ways to fix it but I think there is a small hairline crack in the center ring or so it appears. To the point. I can get it to boot to the menu but not further, I can install it up to about 50% then it stops. So what I am asking is, is it possible if I can get a copy of the game on the internet probably ISO format is there a way I can use my pc to install it to a flash drive or external hard drive, I have heard you can use a flash drive on the 360 and install it to that but I am wondering, maybe use an emulator to do so? Then transfer the install to the xbox hard drive and then put in the game so it can read the copyright protection seal. If this is at all possible please list what programs I will need, where to get them if possible, and the steps I need to take. Please help me though and don't start arguments or tell me to buy a new copy because I am really tight on money right now can't even spare $5-$10.
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scorpNZ
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16. July 2011 @ 02:57 |
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Hire it install & use your disc for copy protection to play assuming it can be read,a hair line crack as you put it shouldn't affect the reading of the game,i hire many games & movies that have deep cracks in the center ring & play fine,are you sure it's not scratches on the disc surface that's the issue & may need a fine polishing stopping at 50% would suggest it is the case
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Ridler616
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16. July 2011 @ 11:18 |
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Exactly what I was going to suggest - if your 360 isn't hacked, just rent the game from somewhere (or get it from a friend) and install it. If it's hacked and reads backups, then you can download it from somewhere (there's literally tons of places for that) and burn it, then install it from the burned disc.
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jt141990
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17. July 2011 @ 01:44 |
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Thanks for the replies. It is actually scratched that's why I stated have tried tons of ways to fix it, but looking at the crack is what I think went overboard, anyways what do you mean "hire it" and I lucked out I found a cheap game rental store near by that only wants $1.50 a night for old games however every other place wants $6 /night not the cheapest but for future problems like this where maybe I wont be so lucky is there any way to do anything remotely close to what I was talking about?
On a side note I am kinda wanting to soft mod the 360 to play burnt disks I was wondering if you could get me some links I have found material but it all isn't simplified I need something that starts from step 1 on what you need and how to get from point a to point b. Is it possible to soft mod without buying anything? I have a torx 10 screwdriver already and a few other sizes and my computer is both IDE and SATA.
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Ridler616
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17. July 2011 @ 07:58 |
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Here's an advice about modding - don't. First off, it's VERY expensive (to my knowledge, there isn't such a thing as "soft-modding an Xbox", you need to both soft- and hardware-mod it), so the modchip, the extractor probe and all of the other tools will be at least 100-150 dollars in total, and since you can't spare even 1/10th of that amount, I sincerely doubt you can afford it. Second - it takes a lot of skill to successfully hack an Xbox (trust me, I'm skilled with this stuff, and even I had A TON of trouble only flashing it, which is about half of the process). So, my advice - if you get a hold of $150 then, instead of buying tools and stuff, just give them to an expert. He should be able to order a chip for you and then install it and flash the drive. That's what I did when I first got my 360, and until recently, I never encountered a big problem with playing backups.
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17. July 2011 @ 10:13 |
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Originally posted by Ridler616:
Here's an advice about modding - don't. First off, it's VERY expensive (to my knowledge, there isn't such a thing as "soft-modding an Xbox", you need to both soft- and hardware-mod it), so the modchip, the extractor probe and all of the other tools will be at least 100-150 dollars in total, and since you can't spare even 1/10th of that amount, I sincerely doubt you can afford it. Second - it takes a lot of skill to successfully hack an Xbox (trust me, I'm skilled with this stuff, and even I had A TON of trouble only flashing it, which is about half of the process). So, my advice - if you get a hold of $150 then, instead of buying tools and stuff, just give them to an expert. He should be able to order a chip for you and then install it and flash the drive. That's what I did when I first got my 360, and until recently, I never encountered a big problem with playing backups.
Don't listen to this guy. He has no clue what he is talking about. IN order to play backups all you do is flash your drive and that's it. The FW is free and depending on which drive you have, you can flash it with the 360 powering the drive, and your onboard SATA connector. A xtractor and probe kit are cheap if you need one. $20. Or I know you can pay someone $50 or cheaper to flash it for you.
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Ridler616
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17. July 2011 @ 13:21 |
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So you don't need an xtractor, huh? How does that work? I entered the Jungle Flasher chatroom and got banned because I wanted to flash it without a probe.
Anyway, I'd assume you need a modchip as well, since I have both a modchip AND a flash. Now my flash is all f'd up and I can't play games, so I'd assume you need both, because if that's not the case, the Modchip I have would be completely useless, right?
The price of around $150 is the price I paid when I first got my 360 back in Summer 2009. $50 for just a flashing sounds about right, but again - not sure if it'll work without a chip.
Oh, and jt, here's an idea I just got - why don't you sell your unmodded 360 and buy a modded one with the money? I bet there'd be plenty of people who'd buy an unmodded 360, and even more who'd sell a modded one, and from what I can see locally the price difference is, in fact, lower than $50, so it'd be cheaper than flashing. The only thing you should worry about is the condition of the Xbox you buy. Just a thought ;)
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jt141990
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17. July 2011 @ 15:07 |
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Thanks for the help so far as quoted in my last response "I was wondering if you could get me some links I have found material but it all isn't simplified I need something that starts from step 1 on what you need and how to get from point a to point b."
There is no such thing as restricted, its only a matter of how far you will push your mind.
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17. July 2011 @ 15:14 |
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Originally posted by Ridler616:
So you don't need an xtractor, huh? How does that work? I entered the Jungle Flasher chatroom and got banned because I wanted to flash it without a probe.
Half tray open method. Works on all older drives, even some liteons. With the newer liteons or when on the new dashboard for all liteons you need to do the PMT hack. If you don't already have a probe all you need is a sewing needle and a piece of cable.
Originally posted by Ridler616:
because if that's not the case, the Modchip I have would be completely useless, right?
100 points for the candidate.
There was a modchip back in '06, which didn't do very well. Since then there hasn't been a renewal as far as I know, they are simply not needed.
Originally posted by Ridler616:
Oh, and jt, here's an idea I just got - why don't you sell your unmodded 360 and buy a modded one with the money? I bet there'd be plenty of people who'd buy an unmodded 360, and even more who'd sell a modded one, and from what I can see locally the price difference is, in fact, lower than $50, so it'd be cheaper than flashing. The only thing you should worry about is the condition of the Xbox you buy. Just a thought ;)
Yea, sure, risk getting a repaired RROD console for your used good working one instead of flashing it yourself, which would take about 15 minutes.
Originally posted by jt141990:
Thanks for the help so far as quoted in my last response "I was wondering if you could get me some links I have found material but it all isn't simplified I need something that starts from step 1 on what you need and how to get from point a to point b."
The Jungleflasher tutorial, the Beginner's guide and depending on your drive the Pogo Mo Thoin guide would be a good start:
http://www.jungleflasher.net/downloads.html
I personally used a Youtube Video for PMT, but that's in German, maybe it helps seeing what that guy does:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSvX2NS8AOY&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_746073
I just used the Xbox 360 for power and a spear I made myself out of the already mentioned sewing needle and piece of cable, which I connected with the 360's metal cage for ground.
Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
PS3: Untouched 160 GB Slim, 60 GB Fat with latest Rogero and 160 GB internal harddrive.
PSVita: hardly ever play it
GameCube: Black with a Viper chip installed. With gameboy player. Trying to get a Wavebird controller.
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17. July 2011 @ 15:16 |
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Sorry, double posting wasn't intended.
Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
PS3: Untouched 160 GB Slim, 60 GB Fat with latest Rogero and 160 GB internal harddrive.
PSVita: hardly ever play it
GameCube: Black with a Viper chip installed. With gameboy player. Trying to get a Wavebird controller.
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scorpNZ
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17. July 2011 @ 19:58 |
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Other option is the x360Key unit
The x360Key is a new product from the famous Wiikey Team. Famous for the most popular line of Wii modchips, they dominated the market right up until a device called the WODE came out. The WODE has been an extremly successful product becuase its bassically a hardware hack that allows you to run games from a harddrive, insteaed of your original disc. Instead of the Wiikey team bringing out the same product, they have been concentrating for over a year on doing the exact same thing for the xbox 360, and here it is!
How does it work?
The x360Key is an Xbox 360 drive emulator. What this means, is that when you load a game via the x360key the xbox actually thinks the game is loading via disc. The 360 thinks the drive is ejecting, a disc is being inserted, the tray closes, the disc spins up, and then loads. Of course non of this is actually happening, its all via emulation, and the data is coming directly from your harddrive!
The x360key is based of Linux, just like the WODE was. This means that it is compatible with multiple filesystems, but more importantly, is that the feature list can grow and grow and grow. Initially the device will only be made to work with the "PHAT" xboxs and not the Slim. The Slim xbox is a little harder to hack, but they plan on releasing a firmware update shortly after the device comes out to make it compatilbe.
This device is compatible with all xbox360 consoles
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXDgMo0P4M0&feature=player_embedded
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17. July 2011 @ 20:04 |
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Ridler616 change your username to Joker616 because your advice was just that, a complete joke.
Joke #1.........Modchip. Completely useless.
Joke #2.........You paid $150. I flashed boxes for $35 back in 2009.
Joke #3.........Sell stock 360 and buy flashed 360. Too tedious a task.
Dude, you are speaking on topics that you are basically guessing about. And seriously I doubt the reason the JF chatroom banned you for was because of wanting to flash without a probe. The majority of 360 Phats can be flashed without a probe.
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Ridler616
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18. July 2011 @ 02:23 |
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Originally posted by eebeejay:
Ridler616 change your username to Joker616 because your advice was just that, a complete joke.
Joke #1.........Modchip. Completely useless.
Joke #2.........You paid $150. I flashed boxes for $35 back in 2009.
Joke #3.........Sell stock 360 and buy flashed 360. Too tedious a task.
Dude, you are speaking on topics that you are basically guessing about. And seriously I doubt the reason the JF chatroom banned you for was because of wanting to flash without a probe. The majority of 360 Phats can be flashed without a probe.
Joke 1 - And I was supposed to know that... how, exactly?
Joke 2 - Different people ask for different prices. The person who flashed it is the only one who does this thing in my city, so he charges outrageous prices for it.
Joke 3 - Oh, so flashing it yourself isn't too tedious?
And about the chatroom, just go and ask them. I'm sure they'll gladly confirm.
Originally posted by Eisherz:
Half tray open method. Works on all older drives, even some liteons. With the newer liteons or when on the new dashboard for all liteons you need to do the PMT hack. If you don't already have a probe all you need is a sewing needle and a piece of cable.
How does that work? Can you send me a link?
Also, just a note for jt - flashing is NOT as easy as these guys make it sound, trust me. They have experience and I'm sure they can do it in their sleep, but that's not the case for you and me. Flashing will NOT take 15 minutes, in any case. Just keep that in mind.
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gnoby
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18. July 2011 @ 03:12 |
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18. July 2011 @ 04:53 |
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jt141990,
This thread is a mess.
As someone in the posts above mentioned, start with the jungleflasher pdf tutorial that was linked. It is an interactive tutorial that will show you the method of flashing your particular xbox game/dvd drive. You will need to open up your console (search on youtube on how to open the console) and find out what specific dvd drive you have (hitachi, samsung, benq, or lite-on....then model number, as each drive can have a unique way of being flashed).
The process will take you a bit a longer the first time if you have never done this before, but the pdf tutorial is very precise and does an excellent job of guiding the novice user. The pdf is not read from first page to last page...it literally guides you through every step for your specific drive by clicking links within it. It is your best friend.
If you still have questions, on the first page of this forum there is a sticky at the top that has already answered any of the questions you may have.
Good luck.
"All drives should be updated to Lite Touch + (LT+) firmware if playing on XBOX live. Samsung drives and pre-78/79 Hitachi drives do not utilize AP 2.5. All other drives are considered to be detectable by Microsoft (YMMV). Make sure all rips are ABGX verified, contain SSv2, and patched AP2.5 (where needed). XGD3 must currently be burned on new drive with PC Burner Max firmware for 100% rip. All modded consoles can be potentially unsafe for use on XBOX live."
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18. July 2011 @ 12:06 |
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Originally posted by Ridler616:
Also, just a note for jt - flashing is NOT as easy as these guys make it sound, trust me. They have experience and I'm sure they can do it in their sleep, but that's not the case for you and me. Flashing will NOT take 15 minutes, in any case. Just keep that in mind.
The 15 minutes was noob time. I need about 5 minutes to flash a 360, and that includes taking it apart and putting it back together.
Also for the half tray open method, follow the jungleflasher tutorial PDF.
Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
PS3: Untouched 160 GB Slim, 60 GB Fat with latest Rogero and 160 GB internal harddrive.
PSVita: hardly ever play it
GameCube: Black with a Viper chip installed. With gameboy player. Trying to get a Wavebird controller.
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18. July 2011 @ 12:25 |
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Originally posted by Ridler616:
Joke 1 - And I was supposed to know that... how, exactly?
By reading up. But it's understandable, there were always modchips for every prior console. Actually I bought an modchip back in the day (way before you did). I thought my console would be the only one modded and a modchip would be quickest route. BUT after my daughter spread the word that her console was going to be modded, I had 5 family and friends wanting their consoles done too. This is what made me decide to flash instead. Returned the chip for a credit and ordered a SATA card and something else.
Originally posted by Ridler616:
Joke 2 - Different people ask for different prices. The person who flashed it is the only one who does this thing in my city, so he charges outrageous prices for it.
Yeah they do that.
Originally posted by Ridler616:
Joke 3 - Oh, so flashing it yourself isn't too tedious?
No it's not. I did my first flash in about 25 minutes and in hindsight it only took that long because I was nervous about doing it wrong, constantly back-tracking and re-reading the procedure. The next console took about 10-15 minutes and the rest about 10 minutes tops. And this was before the release Jungle Flasher, which makes it even easier.
Originally posted by Ridler616:
And about the chatroom, just go and ask them. I'm sure they'll gladly confirm.
I'll take your word on it.
Originally posted by Ridler616:
Also, just a note for jt - flashing is NOT as easy as these guys make it sound, trust me. They have experience and I'm sure they can do it in their sleep, but that's not the case for you and me. Flashing will NOT take 15 minutes, in any case. Just keep that in mind.
Yes, it is as easy as they say. Too many people expect a procedure like Xbox1/Wii/PS3, where you just run a gamesave and physically don't have to open anything. 360 flashing is a 5-minute procedure after you get your hardware set up properly (which is about a 20-minute procedure) and connect the drive. The problem is that most people think it's overwhelming, which in turn, makes it overwhelming for them. The only hard part of flashing is the trace cutting/re-soldering of Lite-On drives, but things like the LT clip solve that issue.
The other overwhelming issue is the Jungle Flasher tutorial. It's very well written, but it's huge, which scares a lot of people. People don't realize that there are links in it, that skip you past what you don't need, and on to what you do need. I personally think that there should be drive-specific tutorials which makes it easier for people to follow page by page until completion.
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Ridler616
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18. July 2011 @ 13:52 |
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Originally posted by eebeejay:
Yes, it is as easy as they say. Too many people expect a procedure like Xbox1/Wii/PS3, where you just run a gamesave and physically don't have to open anything. 360 flashing is a 5-minute procedure after you get your hardware set up properly (which is about a 20-minute procedure) and connect the drive. The problem is that most people think it's overwhelming, which in turn, makes it overwhelming for them. The only hard part of flashing is the trace cutting/re-soldering of Lite-On drives, but things like the LT clip solve that issue.
The other overwhelming issue is the Jungle Flasher tutorial. It's very well written, but it's huge, which scares a lot of people. People don't realize that there are links in it, that skip you past what you don't need, and on to what you do need. I personally think that there should be drive-specific tutorials which makes it easier for people to follow page by page until completion.
Well, I'm a noob, and I still can't flash my Xbox (I've been trying for 2 DAYS already), but either due to lack of equipment or lack of knowledge I STILL haven't flashed it. So no, it is NOT as easy as you make it sound. Also - if it really was possible to do it for 5 minutes, including taking it apart and putting it back together, then why would people charge 50 friggin dollars for it?
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18. July 2011 @ 14:52 |
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Originally posted by Ridler616:
Well, I'm a noob, and I still can't flash my Xbox (I've been trying for 2 DAYS already).
Well I was a noob and flashed it in 25 minutes.
Originally posted by Ridler616:
but either due to lack of equipment or lack of knowledge I STILL haven't flashed it. So no, it is NOT as easy as you make it sound.
Lack of equipment? then that's a YOUR fault. The guides say plainly and clearly that if your motherboard doesn't detect your drive, then purchase a SATA VIA 6421 card for your PC. Power can be supplied by the console, but it's recommended to get a connectivity kit. Do yo have either one of these?
Originally posted by Ridler616:
Also - if it really was possible to do it for 5 minutes, including taking it apart and putting it back together
See, that right there in red letters is your main problem. You don't pay attention to what you read. I never said it takes 5 minutes including dis-assembly and re-assembly. I said it's a 5-minute procedure after your hardware is set up.
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then why would people charge 50 friggin dollars for it?
Because it is a service, that people like you make feasible.
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Just because you don't have what it takes to accomplish this flashing task, doesn't mean it's not easy, it means that you're missing or not understanding something.
I'll try to help you out one more time:
1: Get a connectivity kit (Xecuter CK3 or Maximus Xtractor).
2: Get a SATA VIA 6421 card.
3: Download the port I/O drivers.
4: Download Jungle Flasher.
5: Download your iXtreme firmware and place it in Jungle Flasher's "firmware" folder.
6: Install the SATA VIA 6421 card but not it's drivers.
7: Install the Port I/O drivers.
8: Connect your connectivity kit to your PC's USB.
9: Connect your connectivity kit to your PC's power supply.
10: Connect your connectivity kit to you 360 drive to be flashed.
11: Connect your 360 drive to the SATA VIA 6421 card at the INSIDE of the PC.
Now that was the setup part.
Follow Jungle Flasher's tutorial for your specific drive, which is the 5-minute flashing part.
If this doesn't work out for you, then you definitely need to pay someone that 50 friggin dollars to flash it for you. Or just send it to me, I'll do it for only $49 seeing as to how we're all friends here.
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18. July 2011 @ 15:42 |
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Didn't you guys listen to me? I already told you this guy is clueless, yet offers support on worthless information. "I have a modchip and a flash" ?
Let's see a picture of your modchip. Why in the world would you be flashed and have a modchip. Someone either pulled your chain too hard, or you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Modchips haven't been used since the 1800's.
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Originally posted by eebeejay:
Originally posted by Ridler616:
Also - if it really was possible to do it for 5 minutes, including taking it apart and putting it back together
See, that right there in red letters is your main problem. You don't pay attention to what you read. I never said it takes 5 minutes including dis-assembly and re-assembly. I said it's a 5-minute procedure after your hardware is set up.
The 5-minute-thing was me, in an earlier post. That's about the time I need, watch the video I posted earlier and you see a guy dumping a lite-on within 3 minutes without soldering or cutting at all, and he is doing it slow to explain stuff. Flashing the drive is just one more klick (or four, to be absolutely precise). I can take apart a box within a minute, taking it back together is even faster.
Originally posted by Modking30:
Didn't you guys listen to me? I already told you this guy is clueless, yet offers support on worthless information. "I have a modchip and a flash" ?
Let's see a picture of your modchip. Why in the world would you be flashed and have a modchip. Someone either pulled your chain too hard, or you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Modchips haven't been used since the 1800's.
There was a modchip for the Xbox 360, just google for NME v2 and you find it, or for example:
http://www.modsupplier.com/catalog/nme-360-v2-xbox-360-mod-chip-p-223.html
But development on this was finished in 2006 or 2007, as you can read it doesn't even support lite-on drives. It's totally useless. So the flash makes sense because he wasn't able to use the modchip anymore (or some salesman tricked him into buying some useless hardware, my bet is on the later option).
Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
PS3: Untouched 160 GB Slim, 60 GB Fat with latest Rogero and 160 GB internal harddrive.
PSVita: hardly ever play it
GameCube: Black with a Viper chip installed. With gameboy player. Trying to get a Wavebird controller.
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19. July 2011 @ 13:16 |
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Originally posted by Eisherz:
The 5-minute-thing was me, in an earlier post.
No, I was referring to Ridler in post #18.
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20. July 2011 @ 11:59 |
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Originally posted by eebeejay:
Originally posted by Eisherz:
The 5-minute-thing was me, in an earlier post.
No, I was referring to Ridler in post #18.
Yes, and he was referring to me in post #16 ;)
Xbox 360: Slim untouched with a faked 320 GB harddrive for XBL, phat with LT 3.0, played Halo early, so going on live would be an instand ban, also with a faked 320 GB harddrive
PS3: Untouched 160 GB Slim, 60 GB Fat with latest Rogero and 160 GB internal harddrive.
PSVita: hardly ever play it
GameCube: Black with a Viper chip installed. With gameboy player. Trying to get a Wavebird controller.
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jt141990
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22. July 2011 @ 03:28 |
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You guys are going to hate me for this, but I need to change subjects for a sec, I just found out that with my benq drive I can hot swap without taking the xbox apart (havnt tried it yet but have seen it and read a lot about it) is there a way to possibly softmod this way? Like is there any dashboard or anything that can just install like a burnt game would but when it runs have it start cracking, similar to the old xbox soft mod exploit.
There is no such thing as restricted, its only a matter of how far you will push your mind.
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gnoby
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22. July 2011 @ 04:24 |
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I could be wrong but I don't think hot swapping works anymore without taking your xbox apart. You might want to look into that a bit more. Taking apart the drive to do the hot swap isn't pretty and it's an easy way to break it. But I guess you would only have to do it once, thats your call.
Unfortunately there really isn't any way to "softmod" your box aside from opening it up and flashing the dvd firmware.
which really isn't that hard, especially if you have a benQ.
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