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11. August 2009 @ 17:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay so:

Bootmi = backup NAND

Preloader = boot wii straight to a .dol (like usbloader gx or something else) or video intro or whatever


Beyond those two things, why would I use one or the other? Should I use them both? Why would I want to use them both? What is the advantage of installing Bootmii as IOS vs. boot2?

I've been asked this question and I didn't really know hot to respond other than, "Use bootmii to backup and restore NAND and use preloader to have the wii boot straight to USB loader"

At least that's all I use them for.
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jamojojoe
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11. August 2009 @ 19:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I wouldnt mind knowing either. Ive installed Bootmii as an ios cause i couldnt do boot2. Not sure about how to install preloader etc
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11. August 2009 @ 19:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use Bootmii as Boot2 for the best brick protection.

I use Preloader .29 for HACKS and of course if you want to auto-boot a particular homebrew. I also have used Preloader .29 to recover from a few bricks. But I have heard of Preloader .29 not being able to recover some bricks. In that case Bootmii (as Boot2) comes to the rescue.

If you can only install Bootmii as an IOS then I would suggest installing Preloader .29 to at least have some brick protection.

As for the difference internally on how they work take a look at this site HERE.

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12. August 2009 @ 13:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When I installed bootmii on my machine it installed as boot2 but now every time that I install it to somebody else's it installed only as IOS. why is this?
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12. August 2009 @ 14:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
either the wii has the new boot1, or something else is conflicting with bootmii, most notably cIOScorp. best chance to install bootmii is on a fairly clean system.

ps2: v7 scph-39001 - independence exploit - hdloader 0.8c - maxtor 300gb hdd
(+[__]%) psp slim ta-085v1: 6.60 PRO B10
wii (powered by bootmii/priiloader): 4.1u - d2x v10beta53-alt (base 56) - configurable usb loader v70r51/devolution r188 - wd scorpio black 7200rpm 320gig w/ ams venus ds2 enclosure

got a whole lot more to list . . .
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12. August 2009 @ 14:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As cee43ja1 said not all Wii systems can install Bootmii as Boot2. There was a venerability in Boot1 on older systems that could exploit Boot2 so you could install Bootmii to it. Nintendo has blocked this venerability on newer Systems which in turn block Bootmii from being able to be installed on Boot2. So instead of installing Bootmii on Boot2 on newer systems it is installed as an IOS.

The below is a quote from the Bootmii FAQ page...

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What does "The installed boot1 version prevents a boot2 install (-2) mean? Are you going to fix it?
No, it can't be fixed. Installing as boot2 is the most useful way to install BootMii, but it requires that we exploit a particularly silly bug in a part of the system that can not be changed under any circumstances. Nintendo finally fixed this bug in new Wiis that were released sometime in 2008. We have looked for a suitable replacement for this exploit, but have not found one, and it does not seem likely that anyone ever will.

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willy_g
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2. December 2009 @ 21:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by larrylje:
As cee43ja1 said not all Wii systems can install Bootmii as Boot2. There was a venerability in Boot1 on older systems that could exploit Boot2 so you could install Bootmii to it. Nintendo has blocked this venerability on newer Systems which in turn block Bootmii from being able to be installed on Boot2. So instead of installing Bootmii on Boot2 on newer systems it is installed as an IOS.

The below is a quote from the Bootmii FAQ page...

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What does "The installed boot1 version prevents a boot2 install (-2) mean? Are you going to fix it?
No, it can't be fixed. Installing as boot2 is the most useful way to install BootMii, but it requires that we exploit a particularly silly bug in a part of the system that can not be changed under any circumstances. Nintendo finally fixed this bug in new Wiis that were released sometime in 2008. We have looked for a suitable replacement for this exploit, but have not found one, and it does not seem likely that anyone ever will.

larrylje: I have a wiikey 2 with brick blocker. I'm fixing to install homebrew as well. Do you advise that I also have priiloader/preloader installed or do you think the wiikey 2 brick blocker is sufficient? Thanks
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