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10. May 2014 @ 17:40 |
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Originally posted by Mez:
2old I had no intention of ruffling your feathers...
I would be dumbfounded to have learned you hadn't stealthed your port many years ago. My ports have been stealth for at least 5. That has not eliminated attacks on my computer but I am sure it reduced them. I think recognize the port display.
It?s extremely difficult to ruffle my feathers? I?m so hen-pecked, I have no feathers. Lol
As far as eliminating or stopping attacks, a firewall does not do that. You will be scanned 24/7/365 as long as you have an internet connection. The firewall will keep the attacker from seeing your ports and thereby keep you from being infected. They?re out there all the time and not just aiming at you so don?t take it as a personal attack.
A firewall like ZoneAlarm will record each scan of your IP address and say that it has blocked an attack. There are so many that it can be quite nerve racking if you let it? I prefer using a hardware firewall, that is, a router with an SPI firewall.
I was confused when you said that your router had WPA2 security and you had a 64 character password. WPA2 will accept a password or pre-shared key of 8 to 63 characters and then will use the WPA2 algorithm and hash it to 256 bits if it is more. 63 ASCII chars. Is 504 bits? The old, worthless, WEP security would accept HEX numbers..
Originally posted by Mez:
I think you have over estimated my paranoia. My own experience has taught me that AV will not pick up everything. If you think differently, I will leave that alone.
You are correct, an AV will NOT pick up everything.. A geek can get away with a simple AV because he knows what to look for and stay away from but the average person cannot. The very BEST AV is Knowledge and Common Sense?..
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Mez
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12. May 2014 @ 11:38 |
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Originally posted by 2oldGeek:
You are correct, an AV will NOT pick up everything.. A geek can get away with a simple AV because he knows what to look for and stay away from but the average person cannot. The very BEST AV is Knowledge and Common Sense?..
I can't argue with that. That is my main 'parinoia' in my estimation. If I am not sure I will back up what little data I have on C: and re-image. I tend to stay on the safe side but I don't think others are foolish if they don't. I do belive they are foolish if they think they are secure when they have a minimal security system.
I got you loud and clear about too many warnings. With my browser trap what ever as breached all but my last ring of defense. If this happens a few times a year I don't care. If it happens every hour or 2 when I am browsing I want more security.
Persons that maintain multiple levels of security are much safer.
The linked in IT specialist blogs are very active and huge. It is more active than AD. There is a general agreement that if you think you are infected with something and have any doubt, re-image.
There is a huge difference between the judgement of someone like you and even someone like me who does not have enough backround for expert decisions.
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12. May 2014 @ 20:48 |
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Originally posted by Mez:
Originally posted by 2oldGeek:
You are correct, an AV will NOT pick up everything.. A geek can get away with a simple AV because he knows what to look for and stay away from but the average person cannot. The very BEST AV is Knowledge and Common Sense?..
I can't argue with that. That is my main 'parinoia' in my estimation. If I am not sure I will back up what little data I have on C: and re-image. I tend to stay on the safe side but I don't think others are foolish if they don't. I do belive they are foolish if they think they are secure when they have a minimal security system.
I got you loud and clear about too many warnings. With my browser trap what ever as breached all but my last ring of defense. If this happens a few times a year I don't care. If it happens every hour or 2 when I am browsing I want more security.
Persons that maintain multiple levels of security are much safer.
The linked in IT specialist blogs are very active and huge. It is more active than AD. There is a general agreement that if you think you are infected with something and have any doubt, re-image.
There is a huge difference between the judgement of someone like you and even someone like me who does not have enough backround for expert decisions.
Originally posted by Mez:
I can't argue with that. That is my main 'parinoia' in my estimation.
True and as FDR once said ?The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.?
When you see a firewall or AV blocking a ton of shit, your first thought is: well if it blocked that many and I know it can?t block 100%, how many got through?? That kind of thinking is what promotes paranoia.
Originally posted by Mez:
Persons that maintain multiple levels of security are much safer.
I agree and that is the basis for my layered security. It must be layered like diversifying your 401K, when one investment goes down another goes up and offsets the lose. Like having a mixture of stocks and bonds. You cannot invest in all stocks or all bonds and expect to come out ahead. You cannot have 2 AV?s running the same kind of scan in order to catch what the other one missed, it just don?t work.
Layered Security is the Key. Also moving your Data and Desktop to another HD and keeping daily Image Backups...
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13. May 2014 @ 16:24 |
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2old I only get 'paranoid' when someone breaks through most of my security routinely. They were far enough through where they could leave me a present.
I don't check how many attacks were blocked.
Aldan,
The original poster wasn?t interested in our banter she only wanted to fix her problem.
You are no dummy either. Funny, due to a reduced capacity as you age from your 30s on I be about as smart as you even though my IQ is a bit higher. I am guessing you are a great deal younger than I. A 70 year old with an IQ of 130 is only as functionally intelligent as a 20 year old with 100 IQ points. I am functionally about as smart as you are +/- a few points unless you are an old fart then I am a good deal smarter. At more than 130 a few points are a big deal. IQ is all about how far out you are on the bell curve of individuals your age.
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13. May 2014 @ 17:29 |
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na,not that old mez.im only 56 and i have to come clean on the iq test.it was done over 20 years ago.lol.probably test out at about 100 by now.still have an idetic memory for the written word but,like a slow computer,it takes awhile to retrive the data sometimes.dont think for a moment that because i jab at you for being paranoid that i dont care about what you have to say.i read every post.Al
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13. May 2014 @ 18:41 |
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Originally posted by Mez:
2old I only get 'paranoid' when someone breaks through most of my security routinely. They were far enough through where they could leave me a present.
Now Mez, what kind of presents are they leaving you? I have asked you several tines to post me a scan and I would maybe be able to give you a clue on how to avoid these attacks but your IQ is higher than mine and you seem to blow it off,,,
Actually, an IQ test is based on a lot of variables that if the wrong test is administered it will give faults readings. That is to say, if you ask a person raised in the ghetto: When is Mother?s Day? You can get answers like: The day the Welfare Check comes. Or: 9 months after Father?s Day!
Being an old fart, I think I should be given extra points for Sage Wisdom..
The last IQ Test I took had me flying high for a short time, I scored a perfect 200!
Then I found out the test was designed for 4th Graders? 
Aldan, the truth is that your brain is like an Iceberg and your memories like penguins residing on that hunk of ice. When you go over about 60, Global Warming sets in and the iceberg starts to get smaller and the poor little penguins start to slide off. At first they can scramble back up out of the water but as time goes on, they just drown. After some time you are left with only the memories of your childhood?. Known as your Second Childhood?. Look out it?s on the way!
Also don?t worry about the op, she got good advice and a link to clean up the problem. Not to say she don?t have other problems but most of the younger generation don?t think that far ahead..
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14. May 2014 @ 14:40 |
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2old I said could not did leave a package. I have looked in the sandbox. The beauty of that is only the files added during the session are there. You might not notice a new file in a folder of a few thousand files but when there is only one it is obvious. I have seen common exes some where they belong most somewhere completely different. I have seen dlls and other stuff all in the windows folder or below. Nothing ought to be putting files there during a browse session.
This is where I tend to be a bit overly cautious except that I no longer look anymore. Looking takes more time than the fix and I will delete the box because it is painless. I always delete my sandbox I have been browsing in. I also do this at the end of a session. I may delete the sacrificial user. I always browse using a limited user that has no data so deleting it and creating a new one only takes a minute or 2. Doing anything more clever takes too much time.
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15. May 2014 @ 21:26 |
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Mez, You know that I have given you clues several times on how to "Bulletproof" your computer. There are NO 'perfect' security programs so you must compromise and diversify in order to have the best security possible. No such thing as 100% security; see ireland's post pertaining to Snake-Oil here: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/974963/5954847
The almost near perfect, security program that I have ever ran across is Faronics DeepFreeze and I have used it for years.. It had a problem in 2005 when a program called Unfreezer by Emiliano Torres (a black hat programmer in Santa Rosario, Argentina) found a hole he could get through but it was fixed fairly quickly and I never had any problems with it. It uses a virtual environment and what happens there, is lost there; it cannot effect your real machine..
aldan, I gave up on FF v29. The first version was so buggy that I couldn't use at all so I switched to Pale Moon v28 and had some problems there. I then got a 29.0.1 update for FF and gave it another try. They had fixed most of the bugs but it kept crashing. I just got Pale Moon v28.5 and so far I like it, but I guess I'll see. I'm dying here. 
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15. May 2014 @ 23:10 |
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gotta ask,what is your candid opinion of comodo dragon.i know its a chrome based browser but is it as bad as chrome?
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15. May 2014 @ 23:36 |
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Here is a quote from Gizmo. We have had some disagreements over the years but I still consider what he says to be good advice.
Originally posted by Gizmo:
Luckily, Comodo Dragon and SRWare Iron do not have the privacy concerns. (talking about Chrome) All of the code has been screened by the developers of these products to make sure that these privacy concerns have been removed. Also, Comodo Dragon comes with the option to enable Comodo Secure DNS, which will automatically stop you from connecting with most malicious sites. I would recommend enabling that, unless you are currently using another secure DNS server and do not want to switch. This will increase the security even higher than what you get by just using the Google Safe Browsing blacklist.
I personally use OpenDNS instead of Comodo DNS because it is much faster and about as Secure as far as I can tell.. With all the other security I have installed, I will settle for a little more speed..
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15. May 2014 @ 23:49 |
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thanks 2old,that was kind of what i thought.never used open dns (have to research that),but do have comodo secure dns enabled.meh,lifes to short to worry about the details aint it.
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15. May 2014 @ 23:54 |
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Bye, bye cruel world....
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16. May 2014 @ 02:57 |
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funny,looks more like a pile of shite than an electric fence.LMAO
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17. May 2014 @ 15:37 |
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Originally posted by 2oldGeek:
Mez, You know that I have given you clues several times on how to "Bulletproof" your computer. There are NO 'perfect' security programs so you must compromise and diversify in order to have the best security possible. No such thing as 100% security; see ireland's post pertaining to Snake-Oil here: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/974963/5954847
The almost near perfect, security program that I have ever ran across is Faronics DeepFreeze and I have used it for years.. It had a problem in 2005 when a program called Unfreezer by Emiliano Torres (a black hat programmer in Santa Rosario, Argentina) found a hole he could get through but it was fixed fairly quickly and I never had any problems with it. It uses a virtual environment and what happens there, is lost there; it cannot effect your real machine..
Yes, at least 50% of what I do has come from you. I think you have just told me what my next step will be. Right now I am fat and happy. I have not seen anything getting through my defenses in weeks.
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18. May 2014 @ 21:52 |
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Originally posted by Mez:
Yes, at least 50% of what I do has come from you.
That's great, if I can get you converted on the other 50% you can kiss paranoia goodbye.. LOL
Originally posted by Mez:
I think you have just told me what my next step will be.
Now don't run out and buy DeepFreeze just because I said it worked. First, do some reading and research on it then if your interested check it out on a 30 day trial. It's about $45 per year. Here's the User Guide:
http://www.faronics.com/document-librar...ard-user-guide/
And here's the site:
http://www.faronics.com/products/deep-freeze/standard/
There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading; The few who learn by observation;
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19. May 2014 @ 22:03 |
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Oh I will check it out. I am the distrustful one remember?
I was looking for something along those lines. I figured someone would use virtualization as a malware barrier. I am happy with the way things are right now but it only takes a week or 2 to go from where I am now with no break-ins to it is time to build a new fence. I will check this out.
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