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23. September 2010 @ 17:23 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
No Russ, you've missed the point. AMDs run cool because they're temperature sensors are calibrated to show them running cool, they put out just as much heat as their power consumption dictates, there's nowhere else for it to go!
The temperature of AMD CPUs, according to the sensor is low, but they still put out bootloads of heat.
Sam,
While that may have been correct with the older ones, I've checked everything in the computer that makes any real heat and the sensors are giving very accurate information. I know this for a fact because before I got all the fans straightened out, I was having temperature issues, and things like the Northbridge got too warm to comfortably touch. The temperature read 57C for the motherboard, and it was spot on. 57C won't burn you, but it will leave a red mark and become quite uncomfortable. I've heard that sensor story before, and spoken to AMD about, but AMD says No! They use a managed average for the cores. This way each individual core can not just be throttled, but the load can be switched to other less stressed cores if need be so that one overheating core won't bring the whole CPU down. It can even turn off any core that may not be working properly. The temperature shown is that of the hottest core. We do the same thing with MRI scans, CT Scans and full motion x-rays, because of all the cores involved when using 16 or more multiple core microprocessors. It just makes core management much easier to control and makes it easier to delegate the load over all the cores.
Just because it's a 125w CPU doesn't mean that it's always drawing that much wattage, even fully stressed. Before the fan/cooling problems were addressed, My 955 ran a bit warm and had unacceptably high motherboard temps. Once I could isolate the NB and VRM cooling all the temps came down. If you remember, the temps were very high when the video card was installed in the main 16x slot. This was due to the confinement of so much heat in such a small area, due to the need of keeping the pipelines as short as possible. once I was able to cool the hotspots, I was able to move the Video card back to it's proper location with no more ill effects. I'm going to post my temps to Kevin in a few minutes. I was able to bring my room temp down to 75F/23C, using both AC units. I got curious when I saw his temps at such a cool room temp, and decided to see how low I could get mine. While you can do that in cooler weather, it really isn't an accurate indicator, because there's less heat soaked into the outside walls, caused by radiant heat. The results at 75F/23c are pretty eye popping, as it's 5F lower than his room temp.
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Russ
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23. September 2010 @ 18:04 |
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Omegaman7,
Here's a little eyeopener for you. I managed to lower my room temp to 75F/23C. Check out the temps!
Imagine if I lived with my room temps like yours! I think I've got my cooling, just about as good as you could ask for! LOL!!
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Russ
PS, I haven't even blown out the radiator since I installed the CoolIt, yet! :)
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23. September 2010 @ 18:12 |
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Russ, you're cheating :p LOL!
Russ, why would I need to enable acc?
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23. September 2010 @ 18:23 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Russ, you're cheating :p LOL!
Russ, why would I need to enable acc?
Oman7,
because I discovered that some times when you increase the speed, the CPU Arithmetic performance goes down by 3000 or more MIPS. The ACC lets me recover those drops in performance without having to reduce the CPU speed. I believe that to be caused by uncorrected processor errors. If you get enough of those, you can wind up with corrupt files, or as in my case several months ago, windows refusing to load at all.
You didn't comment on my temps. I'm disappointed! ROFLMSOAO!!
Russ
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23. September 2010 @ 18:31 |
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I did you cheated! LOL! Nah, very nice temps ;) My HAF932 has quite a bit of dust on it. That's probably where the problem lies. Damned dust in this area. I can't win LOL!
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23. September 2010 @ 19:09 |
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Just because it's a 125w CPU doesn't mean that it's always drawing that much wattage, even fully stressed.
Absolutely true, but the power consumption figures from actual tests put AMD's 125W CPUs around the 118W mark, and Intel's 95W i5s/i7s around the 95-100W mark, so they're about right.
Remember, running at 60ºC is considered hot by people in this thread, but CPUs run fine at 75ºC as well.
Not sure what the argument is here though, I was merely pointing out that you were criticising i7s for running hot, they don't, the temperatures they display are about the same as AMDs, and the amount of heat they produce is quite considerably lower.
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23. September 2010 @ 20:17 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
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Just because it's a 125w CPU doesn't mean that it's always drawing that much wattage, even fully stressed.
Absolutely true, but the power consumption figures from actual tests put AMD's 125W CPUs around the 118W mark, and Intel's 95W i5s/i7s around the 95-100W mark, so they're about right.
Remember, running at 60ºC is considered hot by people in this thread, but CPUs run fine at 75ºC as well.
Not sure what the argument is here though, I was merely pointing out that you were criticising i7s for running hot, they don't, the temperatures they display are about the same as AMDs, and the amount of heat they produce is quite considerably lower.
Sam,
Perhaps I was being unfair, since all my experience with temps for the 95W i5s/i7s have to do with some pretty good overclocks. I also have to consider that I have liquid cooling with the CoolIt ECO, although the 955 was surprisingly impressive with just a Freezer 64 Pro. I'm still Hella impressed with the temps I posted though. It's rare that it's 75F/23C in here when it's 87F/34C outside, as there is no insulation whatsoever in the outside walls. This house is older than I thought too, as it was built in 1936, so it's pre WWII.
You do have to addmit, AMD is getting there, after years of getting almost nowhere. Every time they bring out something new, they get a little bit better. Today's Phenom IIs, are nuch more efficient than the original 940, and overclock better too! There's a 95w 955BE/C3 in the works, that's supposed to be coming out soon.
Best Regards,
Russ
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23. September 2010 @ 20:23 |
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Oh no doubt, I can't belittle AMD's achievements, and I do expect them to overtake Intel when Bulldozer arrives. Still, AMDs are pretty heavy-duty chips with regard to power and heat at present (but so are LGA1366 i7s).
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23. September 2010 @ 21:38 |
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Methinks I made a Boo-Boo. I installed the new motherboard, and proceeded to overclock it in XP Mode. I set the two GSata plugs to AHCI Mode before I started. I had a couple of crashes, but nothing out of the ordinary for overclocking, but when I went to boot up in Win 7, it started in a repair mode. After running for a little while, it told me that it couldn't repair the problem. now I'm at a loss to what to do. Can I re-install Win 7 in a normal fashion, or do I have to start all over again and install XP first and then set up dual boot again. I still get the boot menu, but when I select Win 7, it kicks it right back to XP. Any ideas?
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24. September 2010 @ 00:47 |
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My brothers installation of windows 7 did that several weeks ago. The problem appears to have fixed itself. Really weird. In fact I've had other bugs disappear too. Remember the kingston flash drive/printer issue I was having? It seems to be miraculously gone! I wonder if M$ is slipping updates in without my knowing LOL! Or if windows 7 is more impressive than I originally thought. I remember thinking when I first started playing with the beta, that it seemed adaptive. Curious...
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24. September 2010 @ 03:21 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
ok what is the ACC setting and where is it located?
Rob,
Sorry, if missed this one. The ACC is the top item in the MIT, Just click on it and select Hybrid. Save and reboot. Restart the computer and enter the setup. Select Hybrid. Then you can set it. I've tried the + and - settings, and so far the best it seems to work is on the minus side. Using that I can get about 98% of what I can get without it at 3.9GHz, at 3.8GHz. It also seems to perform better using DVDRB/CCE 2 Pass. It knocked off 5 minutes from a 7.2GB rip that I had previously processed at 3.9GHz. That's a lot of improvement, about +17%.
What it does seems to be some deep dark mystery, since AMD won't comment on what it does or how to use it. Since the core temps no longer read when the ACC is enabled, I'm guessing that it's some sort of core control that tweaks the cores for best overall performance, but not necessarily Synthetic Benchmarks. I'm still learning with it, but I'm making progress.
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Russ
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24. September 2010 @ 05:53 |
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Oman7,
I managed to get the room temp down to 72F/22C, since I don't have to deal with radiant heat from the walls at 2 in the morning. Here's the setup. I pulled the CMOS battery and set the CPU to 3.6GHz at 1.312v. I manually set the memory to 2.1v. Everything else is set to Manual/Normal settings. I took these pics because I don't think it will boot up at 3.7GHz at this voltage. I'm not done yet though!
This is the hottest I could get it to run IBT 5 pass.
I can't get it any colder in here, but I imagine it might run just a little bit cooler in your room. Note the voltage increase that the computer gave it while running IBT. I just had to take a pic of it. I had to run it about 3-4 times in a row, because I kept forgetting to click on the full window before I took the shot! LOL!! Simply amazing! No ACC, so do you think I'm still cheating? LOL!! :)
Best Regards,
Russ
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24. September 2010 @ 06:01 |
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I don't think you cheat russ. Totally yanking your chain. Very impressed! I really gotta get in my towers this weekend. I've been up to my neck in pc tasks. Not building. I'm still a ways out on that one. I'm kind of the software guru around these parts LOL! I have a knack for learning softwares. I'd really rather be doing stuff for myself though ;) But I can't say no to people, when I know it's so difficult for them. I think you understand that ;)
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24. September 2010 @ 08:42 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I don't think you cheat russ. Totally yanking your chain. Very impressed! I really gotta get in my towers this weekend. I've been up to my neck in pc tasks. Not building. I'm still a ways out on that one. I'm kind of the software guru around these parts LOL! I have a knack for learning softwares. I'd really rather be doing stuff for myself though ;) But I can't say no to people, when I know it's so difficult for them. I think you understand that ;)
Oman7,
Just funnin woth you! LOL!! I think something might be corrupt in my system on the HDD. Everything works fine once it boots up, and it passes IBT with no problems at 3.8GHz, but DVDRB/CCE keeps crashing the computer. I think I have to totally wipe my boot drive, re-partition and install everything again. Everything was working fine until I tried to run Win 7. Now it's doing some strange things. The post screen will appear all blown up with huge text, no matter what video card I use. Sometimes it will double boot, and the Boot Menu screen acts up too. Temps are great, and it passes IBT with no sweat. I've run memtest on it with no errors, so I just don't know. I sure hope I didn't get a wonky motherboard!
Russ
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24. September 2010 @ 10:26 |
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so is the ACC a AMD thing or is it INTEL also? is it a function like E1ST?
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24. September 2010 @ 12:39 |
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Pretty sure Advanced Clock Calibration is exclusive to AMD.
Russ, you've definitely got something wonking out on you. That sounds pretty wonky LOL!
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
so is the ACC a AMD thing or is it INTEL also? is it a function like E1ST?
Rob,
It's an AMD thing, but it's far more sophisticated in that seems to take control of the individual cores in the CPU. For instance, it can keep a weaker core from bringing the whole computer down. You can adjust each core individually. It's sort of a trim control for all cores, or each individual core. It allows you to get a better performing overclock, and essentially allows you to clock the board higher. Just trying to figure out which which is which, is a deep dark secret! LOL!! AMD has applied for a patent for it, which takes a fair amount of time and they are afraid that Intel will steal it and use it on their boards until Ati gets granted the patent! LOL!! that's the story, anyway!
Best Regards,
Russ
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Well, I found the problem! Something in the sound, probably a bad sound chip affecting the SB buss. I did notice that if I add any voltage at all to the SB, it will boot into windows, but the sound hangs up and you have to press the reset to stop it. Turn off the Start Windows sound, and it boots up just fine until you try to play anything audio. When I play a CD the sound stutters, or if I'm talking to someone in a Voice call. Then it just hangs again! Without any extra SB voltage, it sometimes sounds Stacoto, like a skipping CD. Sometimes it sounds tinny, like an old spring type reverb. I was talking to Rick in a voice call on Yahoo Messenger, and the sound went all wonky, and finally Blue Screened! It does it overclocked, stock and underclocked. All I have turned on for voltage adjustments is the CPU voltage, which is set to 1.325v, and the DDR2 voltage is set to 2.1v everything else is set to normal. I can get a rock stable 3.6GHz overclock at 1.325v, and run IBT 15 times, and it's good, but play a DVD , CD or Voice IM, and it crashes! If I turn the Audio off in the setup, it will pass IBT at 3.8GHz using 1.350v. Turn the sound on and it freezes up at the windows opening sounds (I use the LooneyTunes theme).
I knew something wasn't right last night, because as soon as I went to 3.7GHz, I had to move the voltage up from 1.325v to 1.375v. It shouldn't take that much of an increase, when there's no indication of excessive heat or other problems, and it wouldn't pass IBT if there was a problem with the CPU. I just got off the phone with AMD, and they say that if it passes IBT at any setting, that it's not likely a problem with the CPU. I just got the RMA in an email, but it pisses me off that GigaByte will not pay shipping! Then again, most motherboard manufacturers won't! Asus, Biostar, Asrock, ECS and Foxconn don't either! When this one does go down, it's always a BSOD, never just a reset. Even IBT has never given me a BSOD when it fails. It just resets the computer!
Russ
EDIT, I've been patiently going over my computer, and I've come to the conclusion that the problem is yet another bad Southbridge! If i play a Youtube video, some times it will crash, but if I download the video and then play it, it will stutter from time to time, but doesn't crash. I'm running at a stock 3.2GHz, with the CPU voltage set to 1.325v, and the DDR2 voltage set to 2.1v. Everything else is set to normal. If I up the SB voltage the smallest amount it will crash when windows opens. That makes me believe that there's a problem with the bandwidth. Stay tuned!
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Damn russ. That's some serious bad luck. I hope mine's not going too. Sometimes when I'm streaming from netflix, I get strange sounds. So far, it's isolated to only netflix streaming though. Youtube doesn't have that problem. So I believe it to be due to their software. It doesn't do it all the time though thankfully. I was wondering for a while if it was a bad overclock. But since netflix is the only bug, I'm not thinking so.
How many Gigabyte boards have you gone through? Friggin crazy man!
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Am very pleased with the 2TB Hitachi drive i bought last week. Plus it's whisper quiet, glad i didn't listen to the muppet reviews on the internet. Just bought a second one, it arrives Monday. It'll be used as an external backup of the existing drive. I'll just use a USB dockong station to keep it's contents current. However for the initial copying of the existing drive i'll most likely temporarily disconnect an internal drive and hook the new one up that way. Or take the internal drive to work as we're buying a more expensive SATA dock that does bit-for-bit copying ~ here
It's nice to finally have a ton of space to use. I'll still housekeep the drives as vigilantly as i've always done, it just means that i can keep a ton more stuff 'online' internally where i couldn't before. Untold gigabytes of Documentaries, the entire works of Laurel and Hardy, Battlestar Galactica seasons, Michael Palin/David Attenborough etc etc, and i must get around to ripping all of the X-Files/converting to AVI. That's going to be a rather lengthy task. It'd be far easier to download them all off TPB but it's more sensible to do the work myself.
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A lot of hard disk noise comes from vibrations through the case. Some cases are worse than others for that noise. External hard disk enclosures are usually pretty good for it.
Those Startech docks look really handy, I want to get a USB3 one when I start my drive transfer process.
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Damn russ. That's some serious bad luck. I hope mine's not going too. Sometimes when I'm streaming from netflix, I get strange sounds. So far, it's isolated to only netflix streaming though. Youtube doesn't have that problem. So I believe it to be due to their software. It doesn't do it all the time though thankfully. I was wondering for a while if it was a bad overclock. But since netflix is the only bug, I'm not thinking so.
How many Gigabyte boards have you gone through? Friggin crazy man!
Oman7,
This has been the unluckiest personal build I've ever had. The first motherboard, a different model, was RMA'd. I was told that the model was discontinued, so I bought the 790X-UD4P, and promptly had SB problems with the Sata, and it was replaced by Newegg. After about 6 weeks, it developed similar problems with the Sata as well, so I had to send it in to gigabyte. The one they replaced it with developed the same problem, and I went back to Newegg and backed them into a corner, because had they not told me that my original motherboard had been discontinued when it wasn't, I probably wouldn't have had all these problems. The UD4P they gave me lasted until about 4 weeks ago and we had that power problem, and it wouldn't do anything but shut down after about 5-6 seconds. I installed the new one this past Monday and it was working fine, until suddenly this problem came along. First I thought that maybe it was the video drivers, so I removed them, and ran Registry Crawler to get all of the driver info out, and reinstalled them. It seemed to be OK for a few hours, and then it started spitting and sputtering again. ARRRRGGGH! I swear I will never say that this is my last personal build ever again. This has been going on for over a year now, and it's getting old! LOL!!
I've talked to AMD and they do acknowledge that they have had some bad 710 and 750 SB Chips, so I can't really blame Gigabyte for the problem. I mean the last one worked great for months. I mean, all the parts are high quality. There's no junk or poor quality anything in my computer. CPU, Memory, PSU, GPU, ODDs, HDDs, CPU cooler, fans, you name it, it's all good stuff. I had better luck when I was building with lesser quality components!
I just did some research into all AMD motherboards, and the best one that has a high amount of sales, is the Gigabyte MA785GM-US2H, by a wide margin. Unfortunately I'm not interested in an HDMI board. Still it's the most popular AMD motherboard of any brand out there with 843 confirmed owners out of 911 reviews on Newegg, and only 8% with a 1 egg rating, it wins the top spot by a landslide. You have to look at the Uber priced AM3 motherboards to do better, and they don't sell in large enough numbers, because of their high price tag, to form much of an opinion. One thing I did notice was the fairly high failure rate of just about every motherboard out there, regardless of brand. There are many with far less sales that don't qualify because the numbers are just not high enough to be able to base any opinion. All of this seems to translate out to the effects of a bad economy, with a very high level of dissatisfaction, and a high failure rate. I know the one egg category on newegg seems to be anywhere from 12 to 17 percent range for many motherboards. Contrast that with the 8% one egg rating of the MA785GM-US2H, and it's easy to see why it outsells any other AMD motherboard. Mind you that's 8% out of 843 confirmed owners. Given it's high sales numbers, it's probably the best and most reliable AMD motherboard you can buy today!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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25. September 2010 @ 18:33 |
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This is the one I bought my mother almost a year ago(GIGABYTE GA-MA785GPMT-UD2H). Its performed quite well. She still uses her old computer the most though. It's rather silly. She seems intimidated by the new one. Windows 7...
That docking station looks interesting Creaky. I may have to keep that technology in mind. I can think of situations where that would be extremely handy. Sam is right though. USB 3.0 would help greatly in transfer speeds ;)
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25. September 2010 @ 19:11 |
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Amazingly enough I have a DVD burner tale to share with afterdawn for once.
Installed my GH20NS15 last night after its 6 month period of being unplugged due to being unused (and having nicked the cable for something else)
Went to burn DVD - failed burning at 2% in. Interesting I thought, perhaps it's Windows burning software being crap.
Ran ImgBurn - crashed 3% in. Not only that but after Ctrl+Alt+Del'ing the program, the drive was still spinning the disc at 20x. No joy from the eject button. Trying to right click the drive in My Computer crashed Explorer.
I decided to hard reboot the PC with the reset switch, and the drive was still spinning at 20x with no eject, even after passing POST having detected the drive. Very odd.
Powered the PC off. When I powered it back on, I decided to reflash the drive's firmware with a tool I found simply by googling the drive name.
After having done that and rebooted, all is fine and dandy.
Interesting how DVD firmware can just fail like that. I find myself wondering if somehow I let it be Starforced... :S
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25. September 2010 @ 19:11 |
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This is off topic, but I feel important. I am leaving Yahoo permanently, and going back to Hotmail. One of the reasons is this, taken from the fine print at the bottom of the Yahoo Mail page: "NOTICE: We collect personal information on this site" instead of the usual "while we don't intentionally collect personal information" that everyone else uses. The other reason is that they not only force you to have to do a Capachta code, just to send an email, but I got censored and blocked by them yesterday, and an email to omegaman7 erased! Why, I'm not sure, as I can assure you that there was no bad language or anything like that in the email, and we weren't plotting to overthrow the Government or rob a bank. Just the fact that some key word kicked my email off the internet, and they can read anything I wrote, is unacceptable to me. I consider these actions by Yahoo Mail to be an invasion of my privacy, and will be going back to my old Hotmail account.
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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