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250GB 'Super' Xbox 360 Elite coming soon?
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article published on 30 August, 2009
Kotaku is reporting that a 250GB 'Super' Xbox 360 Elite is possibly on the way, and two retail leaks seem to confirm the fact.
The first ad, from the German Amazon, lists a 250 GB Xbox 360 Elite bundled with Forza Motorsport 3 and 2 wireless controllers for ?279.99, about $400 USD.
The second ad, from the South African retailer BT Games, shows the so-called "Super" Elite for R4699, ... [ read the full article ]
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2. September 2009 @ 13:47 |
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I read squaretrade's report. Did some of us not read the part where squaretrade survayed 360 owners and 360 owners tend to send their 360 into MS instead of squaretrad to be repaired (because of the 3 year warranty) and they still figure the 360 overall failure rate to be around %35.
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2. September 2009 @ 14:05 |
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Originally posted by glassd:
I read squaretrade's report. Did some of us not read the part where squaretrade survayed 360 owners and 360 owners tend to send their 360 into MS instead of squaretrad to be repaired (because of the 3 year warranty) and they still figure the 360 overall failure rate to be around %35.
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! Someone get this man a prize since he gets it! (Not meant to sound as if condescending)
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First, it?s worthwhile considering that Xbox 360?s failure rate drops to 11.7% when you exclude RROD, which then puts it on par with the PS3.
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Second, Microsoft?s policy may result in an underreporting of failures by Xbox 360 owners to SquareTrade, relative to the other two consoles.
***Because the RROD problem is so widely known to be covered by Microsoft?s warranty, we believe that more customers bypass SquareTrade and reported failures directly to the Microsoft.***
In a survey of SquareTrade customers with Xbox 360s conducted by email, SquareTrade found that over half of our customers who experienced a RROD error reported their problem directly to Microsoft without contacting SquareTrade. Email survey respondents tend to be a self-selecting group, so the data should be used directionally rather than definitively, particularly because we did not survey PS3 and Wii owners with the same question. With that caveat in mind, applying the survey data to the analysis shows that the Xbox 360 failure rate could be as high as 35%.
While Microsoft initially claimed in February 2007i that the ?return? rate on Xbox 360s did not exceed 3-5%, they later published an open apology on July 5th, 2007 and announced a $1.15 billion fund to be set aside for Xbox 360 repair and replacement.ii The money would fund repairs for up to 2.5 million consoles, and thus they implicitly anticipated a far higher rate of failure than their stated 3-5%.
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2. September 2009 @ 14:13 |
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Originally posted by Oner:
Originally posted by glassd:
I read squaretrade's report. Did some of us not read the part where squaretrade survayed 360 owners and 360 owners tend to send their 360 into MS instead of squaretrad to be repaired (because of the 3 year warranty) and they still figure the 360 overall failure rate to be around %35.
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! Someone get this man a prize since he gets it! (Not meant to sound as if condescending)
Thats twice now that i have been the winner. If someone wants to read the whole squaretrade article, they will have to open square's PDF report. It has some nice charts and stuff in it.
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2. September 2009 @ 14:14 |
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Originally posted by glassd:
Originally posted by Oner:
Originally posted by glassd:
I read squaretrade's report. Did some of us not read the part where squaretrade survayed 360 owners and 360 owners tend to send their 360 into MS instead of squaretrad to be repaired (because of the 3 year warranty) and they still figure the 360 overall failure rate to be around %35.
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! Someone get this man a prize since he gets it! (Not meant to sound as if condescending)
Thats twice now that i have been the winner. If someone wants to read the whole squaretrade article, they will have to open square's PDF report. It has some nice charts and stuff in it.
Fixed. Re-did my post to avoid inaccuracies in how people take what they want and the whole picture/proper information is not shown properly.
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2. September 2009 @ 19:08 |
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Originally posted by chris4160:
Originally posted by Oner:
Weird how you couldn't provide it earlier when asked, then only to post something that came out today or so? Odd isn't it? But whatever...SquareTrade is not Microsoft and is an outside party not privy to EXACT numbers, whereas (as I have stated before) Microsoft themselves admitted to over 11 Million 360's being defective in the first 19 months of sales and every revision thereafter still proved to be affected. Less affected *YES* but still a major issue.
I prefer to go by the horses mouth. Microsoft. Not an external party. Take that as you please.
What ms was referring to was the x clamps, which aren't the main reason for rrod (if you new anything about the xbox 360, the topic at hand, you would know that). So that does not mean 11 million units have rrod, it means 11 million units could possibly be faulty... but any electrical item can be faulty, nothing new. The x clamps aren't even in the new xbox's, so again you are bringing up old news.
I prove Oner's point wrong, he disregards it, doesn't post a reply to it (but he does post a reply to the post that he can "prove wrong") then uses that very information that I proved wrong again... in the same thread. This is the third time I have had to correct your "proof" yet you are still using it. And to make matters worse you are claiming that other members are to lazy to find proof. Far out.
In response to the squaretrade arguement: When that gamescom (or whatever it was) 54.2% rrod fail rate survey came out a few weeks ago all the ps3 fanboys were backing it. Now a survey that from a reliable company comes out you disregard it...
In response to Oner's response to the ps3 sale rates: It's not MS fault sony was too late to release the ps3. Even if sony did release the ps3 at the same time as the xbox it would have been a $500 xbox vs a $900 ps3, with basically the same aspects, I know which one I would buy. Just changing the release date and saying the ps3 has more sales is rubbish, there is way to many variables to change the outcome
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2. September 2009 @ 20:10 |
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Originally posted by chris4160:
I prove Oner's point wrong, he disregards it, doesn't post a reply to it (but he does post a reply to the post that he can "prove wrong") then uses that very information that I proved wrong again... in the same thread. This is the third time I have had to correct your "proof" yet you are still using it. And to make matters worse you are claiming that other members are to lazy to find proof. Far out.
In response to the squaretrade arguement: When that gamescom (or whatever it was) 54.2% rrod fail rate survey came out a few weeks ago all the ps3 fanboys were backing it. Now a survey that from a reliable company comes out you disregard it...
In response to Oner's response to the ps3 sale rates: It's not MS fault sony was too late to release the ps3. Even if sony did release the ps3 at the same time as the xbox it would have been a $500 xbox vs a $900 ps3, with basically the same aspects, I know which one I would buy. Just changing the release date and saying the ps3 has more sales is rubbish, there is way to many variables to change the outcome
Um probably because it doesn't matter. You didn't prove ANYTHING or ANYONE wrong. Xclamp, Solder, MB Flex, Lack of cooling etc...It is STILL an admission of 11 MILLION 360's BEING DEFECTIVE. That is the bottom line and the point I have always said, nothing else. What more is there to say? That is what you don't seem to get. I gave you a direct link to the proof the other day. You don't want to accept it. Not my fault.
I am repeating the same thing over and over and over and over...I never said all those 360's are RROD failures (another thing I have said before and actually said right here in this thread!) just that they are DEFECTIVE by admission from Microsoft. YOU just don't want to understand that and continue to try and prove something I NEVER SAID nor believe. I don't even believe the 54.2% figure because that was just a poll from the readers of THAT website. NOT from MS themselves, just like I don't believe the 1% figure from SquareTrade. BUT even SquareTrade says they believe the failure rate could be as high as 35%.
The problem is you are trying to prove me wrong about something I never said nor believe. THAT is where you are getting frustrated with and can't seem to let go.
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2. September 2009 @ 20:35 |
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Originally posted by Oner:
Weird how you couldn't provide it earlier when asked, then only to post something that came out today or so? Odd isn't it? But whatever...SquareTrade is not Microsoft and is an outside party not privy to EXACT numbers, whereas (as I have stated before) Microsoft themselves admitted to over 11 Million 360's being defective in the first 19 months of sales and every revision thereafter still proved to be affected. Less affected *YES* but still a major issue.
I prefer to go by the horses mouth. Microsoft. Not an external party. Take that as you please.
You posted that in response to the squaretrade rrod survey, now tell me that was not implying 11 miilion units rrod. And if it wasn't there was no use in posting that 2 year old info. Basically what you admitted in your above post is that your ONLY PROOF has very little link to rrod.
Who cares if 11 million units are possibly defective, it does not mean 11 million units have rrod like you implied. You "prefer to go by the horses mouth" although the horse has never released a failure rate, you implied they did.
Atleast ms had the decency to own up for their mistakes.
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2. September 2009 @ 20:46 |
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Originally posted by chris4160:
Originally posted by Oner:
Weird how you couldn't provide it earlier when asked, then only to post something that came out today or so? Odd isn't it? But whatever...SquareTrade is not Microsoft and is an outside party not privy to EXACT numbers, whereas (as I have stated before) Microsoft themselves admitted to over 11 Million 360's being defective in the first 19 months of sales and every revision thereafter still proved to be affected. Less affected *YES* but still a major issue.
I prefer to go by the horses mouth. Microsoft. Not an external party. Take that as you please.
You posted that in response to the squaretrade rrod survey, now tell me that was not implying 11 miilion units rrod. And if it wasn't there was no use in posting that 2 year old info. Basically what you admitted in your above post is that your ONLY PROOF has very little link to rrod.
Who cares if 11 million units are possibly defective, it does not mean 11 million units have rrod like you implied. You "prefer to go by the horses mouth" although the horse has never released a failure rate, you implied they did.
Atleast ms had the decency to own up for their mistakes.
OMG. What is so hard to understand? Here I go explaining again what is clear as day previously.....I said "Microsoft themselves admitted to over 11 Million 360's being defective in the first 19 months of sales and every revision thereafter still proved to be affected." no where does it say say those are 11 Million RROD's...just that at least 11 Million 360's sold in the first 19 months are defective/affected. What can't you comprehend?
Holy crap did I just restate what I just repeated twice in the same sentence and like 3 or 4 times already...seriously...READING COMPREHENSION FTL...
Edit: Actually this has gone WAAAY too far and has derailed the thread to nothing...if you want to keep this up please PM me. Sorry to all our members.
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
What was decided, at least by myself and Dela, was that the console articles having comments disabled will be at the discretion of the writer of the article. Didn't think there would be too much drama in a speculation article about Xbox 360 pricing tbh. :P
LoL...apparently not!
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5. September 2009 @ 04:40 |
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In addition to the fact that very few people will report an error to an aftermarket repair company while the unit is still under warantee, there is another thing to remembmer about their numbers...
All of their other data was a 2-year scale...that is, the percent that failed over the course of 24 months. The data for the new xbox360 was based on a unit that has been available less than 10 months, and many of the owners have only owned their system for half of that or less. Granted, the new 360 is a lot more reliable than the orriginal...but it is still not very reliable.
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5. September 2009 @ 15:14 |
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MS sold a console that they knew was having issues,even denied it if memory serves until the noise got too loud,even then it took em ages to provide a decent warranty,problem is there's a whole stack of 360's out there that are just crap,which are more than likely being sold on ebay etc,in the mean time you have those console sellers upgrading to the new consoles in the hope all will be well & since mine has had no issues from November 08 as well as others like me who waited for a price drop then the 360's lead is not a real testament to it's actual sales performance,the only way to know that for sure would've been if the 360 had a normal fail rate so with that scientifically proven explanation the 360's lead just got smaller
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