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'Lord of the Rings' officially headed to Blu-ray in April
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article published on 14 December, 2009
Warner Home Video has announced the the release date for the long-awaited Blu-ray version of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, as well as a price.
The nine-disc set will be released on April 6th, and will include only the theatrical versions of the films, which should anger many would-be buyers who hoped for the extended versions. The set will also include digital copies for each film, and ... [ read the full article ]
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hungNYC
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14. December 2009 @ 16:41 |
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WTF??!! I got to wait for another set of "Extended Version" BDs?? Thanks but no thanks. I'll keep my dollars for better use...
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coogeevac
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14. December 2009 @ 16:43 |
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I have to admit that I already own both the theatrical and extended versions on dvd, and I haven't watched the theatricals since I got the extended versions, I don't see any point in buying another set in blu ray, unless it contained at least both versions, thats the only way that I'll be tempted, and I'm not personally interested in digital copies, or perhaps they plan to release both as 2 separate box sets, the first in April and the extended a few months later on, is it just another cash grab...
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SDF_GR
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14. December 2009 @ 17:41 |
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without being the xtended version whats the point of releasing it???
and 9xBD??? evan if the BD's are single layer that equals to 225gb??? for what???
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14. December 2009 @ 17:57 |
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Kinda what I was thinking...
NINE disks for three movies? On BR???
The only people who will get this are collectors.
I've got the collectors edition DVD set and while the box looks quite cool, I've not really played them much.
I usually watch the digital version when I do watch it.
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14. December 2009 @ 18:49 |
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3 BRs 3 DVDs and 3 extras?
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windsong
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14. December 2009 @ 19:53 |
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Um..digital copies? Yeah, I got your "digital copies" right here.
Right on Usenet. Look for them around the 1st week of April in alt.binaries.hdtv
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14. December 2009 @ 20:44 |
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They'll do Theatrical first so the hardcore High Def people will buy them. Then a couple months later they'll release the extended set, and hope most of the people who bought the Theatrical will buy the new "better" set.
Their way of screwing the consumer, and getting the most money out of them.
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14. December 2009 @ 20:47 |
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I'm hoping people boycott this and wait for the extended version instead.
As others have commented why is it nine disks? The extended edition on DVD is 12 disks, including the extras but even with it being at 1080P they must be using 25GB disks.
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Tecbot
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14. December 2009 @ 21:15 |
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Ill be waiting for extended versions.
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HDNow
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14. December 2009 @ 21:49 |
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Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
As others have commented why is it nine disks? The extended edition on DVD is 12 disks, including the extras but even with it being at 1080P they must be using 25GB disks.
9 discs:
Fellowship:
1 - Theatrical Cut - 178 minutes
2 - Digital Copy
3 - Extras
Two Towers:
1 - Theatrical Cut - 179 minutes
2 - Digital Copy
3 - Extras
Return of the King:
1 - Theatrical Cut - 200 minutes
2 - Digital Copy
3 - Extras
Hey Pop: If you think you can fit 178 minutes or more of 1080p video with lossless audio on 25 GB discs then I think you're dreaming. The theatrical cuts will most definitely be on BD50 discs.
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14. December 2009 @ 22:55 |
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Originally posted by HDNow:
Hey Pop: If you think you can fit 178 minutes or more of 1080p video with lossless audio on 25 GB discs then I think you're dreaming. The theatrical cuts will most definitely be on BD50 discs.
I didn't take into account that the digital copies would be on a disk. They could put the theatrical versions a BD25 if nothing else was on it, however, that is rarely the case.
I still won't be putting up the cash $70+ for a BD-set as I am waiting, as I'm sure many are, for the extended versions to hit BD.
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14. December 2009 @ 23:10 |
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Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
Originally posted by HDNow:
They could put the theatrical versions a BD25 if nothing else was on it, however, that is rarely the case.
The theatrical cuts are 178, 179 and 200 minutes. Even without anything else they still wouldn't fit on a BD-25. Remember these will definitely have lossless soundtracks. I'll bet my fanny these will be on BD50's.
The extended cuts will likely come out in 2011 when The Hobbit is released.
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14. December 2009 @ 23:53 |
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Originally posted by samshizze:
They'll do Theatrical first so the hardcore High Def people will buy them. Then a couple months later they'll release the extended set, and hope most of the people who bought the Theatrical will buy the new "better" set.
Their way of screwing the consumer, and getting the most money out of them.
I don't see how is this "screwing the consumer". I don't think anyone is forcing "the consumer" the buy anything. Wasting your own money is your choice. Bitching about how you waste your money because you chose so is pointless...It's a business,not charity, and if you can find fools that will buy half a dozen versions of the same movie,just with prettier covers, why not try to sell it???!!
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ripxrush
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15. December 2009 @ 00:20 |
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a.. hats i still want my HD-DVD version!
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15. December 2009 @ 00:40 |
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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
Originally posted by samshizze:
They'll do Theatrical first so the hardcore High Def people will buy them. Then a couple months later they'll release the extended set, and hope most of the people who bought the Theatrical will buy the new "better" set.
Their way of screwing the consumer, and getting the most money out of them.
I don't see how is this "screwing the consumer". I don't think anyone is forcing "the consumer" the buy anything. Wasting your own money is your choice. Bitching about how you waste your money because you chose so is pointless...It's a business,not charity, and if you can find fools that will buy half a dozen versions of the same movie,just with prettier covers, why not try to sell it???!!
Not releasing stuff in a timely manner, not releasing it at a good price, not releasing it at a fixed price world wide region free...basically they do everything they can to screw the consumer. IMO at least try to do better than the rank wank you've been doing.... if not the consumer will go else where if they are less wooly than others....
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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15. December 2009 @ 00:58 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
... IMO at least try to do better than the rank wank you've been doing.... if not the consumer will go else where if they are less wooly than others....
My point exactly...no one is twisting anyone's arm to buy the dam'ed discs first time they come out. If someone thinks their life is going to be augmented by jumping in right away and wasting their money on a disc that will sit on a shelf over 80% of it's life time, then why complain? Don't like the business model, don't do the business.
Why not release the movies on DVD/Blu Ray at the same time with the theatrical release? Ba$ta'ds,instead they are trying to make more money,"forcing" people to watch the movie at the theaters, then buy it on a disc...
If one "can't" wait,got "the itching" and has to "preorder" whatever first release comes first on whatever format, then go get scratched, by all means, just don't complain complain about the rash...
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domie
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15. December 2009 @ 05:38 |
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They must be BD-50s even for the theatrical cut - no way would Jackson let them cram over 3 hours of his movies with lossless soundtracks on a single layer disc - can you imagine the compression and artifacts or at very least , hugely reduced bit rate ?
There has been a massive backlash against this "cinema version only" set , not least on amazon.com so why they are still going ahead with this is beyond me but as has already been said , if you don't want it then don't buy it , simple. Nobody is forced to get it.
The same money spinning technique has been used to even worse effect with Warner Bros on the Harry Potter series - how many damn boxsets have they released containing all the movies so far ?
There was the Years 1-3 boxset , then there was years 1-4 then the wooden trunks on HD-DVD and blu-ray with Years 1-5 , this christmas it's the "complete years 1-6" box set and there are still 2 films left to go in the series with Deathly Hallows being a 2 film project and already they are rehashing the old ones ( 1- 5 ) with new packaging and "special edition extended cut" marketing mantra already !!!
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15. December 2009 @ 05:41 |
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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
... IMO at least try to do better than the rank wank you've been doing.... if not the consumer will go else where if they are less wooly than others....
My point exactly...no one is twisting anyone's arm to buy the dam'ed discs first time they come out. If someone thinks their life is going to be augmented by jumping in right away and wasting their money on a disc that will sit on a shelf over 80% of it's life time, then why complain? Don't like the business model, don't do the business.
Why not release the movies on DVD/Blu Ray at the same time with the theatrical release? Ba$ta'ds,instead they are trying to make more money,"forcing" people to watch the movie at the theaters, then buy it on a disc...
If one "can't" wait,got "the itching" and has to "preorder" whatever first release comes first on whatever format, then go get scratched, by all means, just don't complain complain about the rash...
Mmmmmm when they are the only allowed provider and they give you 2 or 3 choices when you should have a minim of 6 or more...they are twisting your arm because they are not doing enough to get it out there.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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15. December 2009 @ 06:15 |
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Rumor has it that the extended release will come at the end of 2011, just in time for The Hobbit, and be part of an ultra collectors set.
This is no surprise. It's called double dipping. As cyprusrom pointed out, it's just business. The theatrical release is going to sell to a number of people. Some of those may want to watch it in HD right now instead of wait. They may just buy the extended version when it comes out also. Just have patience. In the meantime, enjoy the HDTV versions floating around out there with upscaled extended scenes.
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15. December 2009 @ 10:41 |
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Some people may think that it's a rip off being offered the theatrical set some months before the extended set is released. The UK price is £50.00 for the three films and I can't wait to get my hands on them. £50.00 is a small price to pay for this collection. No one has to buy them but I bet this will be a huge seller. And yes I will also gladly hand over some more money for the extended versions just as I did when the DVDs came out. Anyone for Star Wars?
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15. December 2009 @ 13:59 |
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Originally posted by emugamer:
Rumor has it that the extended release will come at the end of 2011, just in time for The Hobbit, and be part of an ultra collectors set.
This is no surprise. It's called double dipping. As cyprusrom pointed out, it's just business. The theatrical release is going to sell to a number of people. Some of those may want to watch it in HD right now instead of wait. They may just buy the extended version when it comes out also. Just have patience. In the meantime, enjoy the HDTV versions floating around out there with upscaled extended scenes.
It's a bit more than double dipping at this point, it's quintuple dipping at least lol
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15. December 2009 @ 14:56 |
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It's a bit more than double dipping at this point, it's quintuple dipping at least lol
True! DVD theatrical release, DVD extended release, Blu ray Theatrical release and soon the Blu ray Extended release.
I did read somewhere that the Blu ray extended will have more extras than the DVD extended release did.
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...Even if it was centuple, if you don't want, no one is forcing you to play their games...unless you "have to have " the first release on Blu Ray, of a movie that you probably have seen already 5 times and know the dialog by heart...or something. Of course, your entire life might be in ruins if you don't jump right in to get it...
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Ustop
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15. December 2009 @ 19:19 |
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cyprusrom, I completely understand ur point, but here's problem 1. The average consumer John and Jane r having a day together. They go get some groceries, wash there car, c a movie, maybe take a walk through the park, when suddenly Jane realizes, "John we forgot to get dog food." she says in a frantic. So off 2 the local Wally's. As there walking thru the store something catches John's eye. He walks over to it and when the sudden reality of what it is hits him, he fants and falls to the floor. After Jane slaps him for several minutes he finally comes to. He gets to his feet and tries to shake off what he believes must be a midday daydream brought on by stress from working to much at the local krusty krab, when suddenly a bright light shines from above on his must be daydream. He steps forward and grabs it from the shelf. He slowly turns to Jane, knees a buckling, "Look honey, its LOTR box set on blu-ray," he stutters with a tear in his eye, "I didn't EVEN KNOW this was coming out. I know we have rent to pay, but please let me get this. I'll do whatever you want for a week." She smiles at him and leads him to the checkout without the dog food. Most people won't know that the theatrical version is coming out let alone that maybe sometime in the future that the extended version may come out. Its using people against themselves. Its not a business model, its greed. The same thing happened to me almost ten years ago when I bought the box set of Die Hard. I know now to do my research. Problem 2. There r enough of us out there reading and talking to know not to fall for this trap. And because of this, initial sales won't be what r projected and they will blame it on piracy and that will be there reason for not bringing out extended versions. When a book they know is going to sell well, they publish it for the first 6 months in hardback which is 3 times as much as paperback. What's the justification for charging 25 bucks for a hardback compared to 8 bucks for a paperback. Its exactly the same story. No extras, no extended version, just the same story in different wrapping. There justification for this. They know people think they have to have it now and people can't help themselves.
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15. December 2009 @ 19:40 |
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Originally posted by Ustop:
cyprusrom, ... They know people think they have to have it now and people can't help themselves.
OKay, maybe they are taking advantage of the "innocent", uninformed...But to me, if a certain consumer is that uninformed and innocent, is not an avid collector/die hard hi-def/blu ray stuff...He bought a big screen TV, the guy at BestBuy told him he needs to also buy a Blu Ray player to take advantage of the hi-def TV, and now he buys Blu Ray discs, because the Geek Squad told him it looks much better than regular DVDs.
So,Innocent and uninformed how he is, because he doesn't know about all these extended cuts/releases after releases, most likely doesn't care about it either. Next time he sees a new disc, he'll say, "I already have it, already saw it", even though is a different release, and move on... The ones that complain about it, are the somehow informed customers, that know what they are getting into.
"...people think they have to have it now and people can't help themselves"
So, who's to blame? C'mon, Is not like waving a bottle of booze in front of a recovering alcoholic...But since your guy fainted and fell to the floor at Wally's, obviously he's life might be in danger, so I guess his impulsive shopping is somehow justified)))...
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