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FCC to propose new Internet net neutrality rules

article published on 19 September, 2009

Federal Communications Commission Chairman Julius Genachowski has announced the group will be proposing new rules over net neutrality that will block ISPs from "throttling" any data across their networks. Last year, the ISP Comcast came under fire after it was found to be intentionally throttling data from torrent downloaders and uploaders, sometimes slowing their speeds down to nothing. ... [ read the full article ]

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19. September 2009 @ 15:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well we all know that we just cant have anything competing with cable TV networkds now can we? I propose that people start getting their financial matters in orders now and start voting with their dollars!
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19. September 2009 @ 15:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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The ISPs say that throttling is a necessary evil as BitTorrent use eats up massive bandwidth thus leaving other users with slower Internet. It is unclear whether this has ever been proved.
If your running a bittorrent download on 1 PC on your internal network, its slows down other PC's Internet speed by far greater than the actual speed of the bittorrent download. So it does make sense that it would effect other users on the internet.

Contention is fact on all ISP's, throttling is just their way of adding some control to it. In turn making sure all of you website viewing remains as quick as possible

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19. September 2009 @ 16:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow, hard to imagine our pres. being in full support of this idea.... I'll believe it when I see it.
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19. September 2009 @ 18:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
would this happen in canada too sounds good
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19. September 2009 @ 19:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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President Barack Obama is in full support of net neutrality.
Hahah Obama rockz :D


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19. September 2009 @ 19:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Wow, hard to imagine our pres. being in full support of this idea.... I'll believe it when I see it.
I know it, right! Something good, we will have to wait and see.
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19. September 2009 @ 20:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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President Barack Obama is in full support of net neutrality.
So was McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Clinton and every other stooge running for President. There was nothing to be lost by being in support of it, since it is neither a strictly liberal or conservative issue.
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21. September 2009 @ 00:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"The ISPs say that throttling is a necessary evil as BitTorrent use eats up massive bandwidth thus leaving other users with slower Internet" - If they built the networks right, then this would not be a problem. This only occurs when they oversell their outdated networks, selling a dozen 20mb plans that will go through a single 30mb line (with 5mb total upstream).

I'm just glad that the local cable company is loosing their shirts to Verizon FiOS. This has forced prices down while making internet speed incredible (30mbps downstream about 95% of the time...on a 20mbps plan)...and they don't seem to care about torrents.
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21. September 2009 @ 03:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The only throttling that should be allowed is a reduction of 30% of the plan's speed, network shaping is not that bad a thing however they(including all satellite providers) can not drop speeds below 30% of what they are selling in a plan.
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21. September 2009 @ 05:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
The only throttling that should be allowed is a reduction of 30% of the plan's speed, network shaping is not that bad a thing however they(including all satellite providers) can not drop speeds below 30% of what they are selling in a plan.
Might I ask where you came up with 30%? It might be just me, but I expect 100% of what I am paying for. If I only get 70% of it, then I want a 30% refund.


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21. September 2009 @ 06:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If your running a bittorrent download on 1 PC on your internal network, its slows down other PC's Internet speed by far greater than the actual speed of the bittorrent download. So it does make sense that it would effect other users on the internet.

u don't make sense , it depends on the number of user and not on data , most peeps really use their internet for checking email and surfing , they apparently don't know, that they don't need 6 Mbps , but only 1 Mbps , cable company hence don't put enough bandwidth as they are saving money, like they may have 3000Mbps available for a thousand subs , while each sub is paying for 6Mbps , so hence overcharging subscribers and the need for net throttling
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21. September 2009 @ 17:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
The only throttling that should be allowed is a reduction of 30% of the plan's speed, network shaping is not that bad a thing however they(including all satellite providers) can not drop speeds below 30% of what they are selling in a plan.
Might I ask where you came up with 30%? It might be just me, but I expect 100% of what I am paying for. If I only get 70% of it, then I want a 30% refund.

Between real world issues and shaping 30% is not that big of a number.
You'll get more than I ever will out in the boonies...hell 30% is more than I get even :P

Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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