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UFC will sue individuals for PPV piracy
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article published on 6 January, 2010
UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) president Dana White has said today that the sport is preparing to sue individuals and websites that offer the MMA content illegally.
The UFC made about $350 million in PPV revenue in 2009, but many websites have been streaming the UFC PPV events for free online, while they are playing live.
UFC CEO Lorenzo Fertitta said his anti-piracy group had ... [ read the full article ]
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thor999
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6. January 2010 @ 18:18 |
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...let's get it on!!!
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ivymike
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6. January 2010 @ 19:22 |
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"[Piracy] hasn't cost us anything compared to what it's going to cost us to go after these guys"
So why bother?!?
There's a saying "Choose your battles".
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6. January 2010 @ 19:25 |
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I believe someone is thinking through testosterone... Well lets see them start this up, considering what he stated doesn't even make sense. If its going to cost you more to go after all of em, then obviously they haven't lost all that much. Way to fight the good fight...
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beanos66
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6. January 2010 @ 23:21 |
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Originally posted by Joe Rogan:
You can't beat the internet, Baby
p.s. Never heard of justin.tv, thx dana
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6. January 2010 @ 23:55 |
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Good. I hate UFC and similar things anyway.
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7. January 2010 @ 00:21 |
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Originally posted by beanos66:
Originally posted by Joe Rogan:
You can't beat the internet, Baby
p.s. Never heard of justin.tv, thx dana
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7. January 2010 @ 00:59 |
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im in australia and we get UFC on digital free to air tv and high def tv.i doubt that its live but the fact is we still get it for free.instead of taking out lawsuits why dont they just send top fighters to go around peoples houses/businesses and sort out this problem????
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7. January 2010 @ 01:20 |
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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
...instead of taking out lawsuits why dont they just send top fighters to go around peoples houses/businesses and sort out this problem????
And then what?
Piss me off, and I Will ignore You!
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7. January 2010 @ 02:08 |
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If the recording industry has problems with piracy, what makes him think the UFC can stop it? I don't think he really knows how hard this is going to be.
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cart0181
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7. January 2010 @ 03:40 |
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Originally posted by Mysttic:
I believe someone is thinking through testosterone... Well lets see them start this up, considering what he stated doesn't even make sense. If its going to cost you more to go after all of em, then obviously they haven't lost all that much. Way to fight the good fight...
Testosterone? Or Principles? Often, it does cost more to do the right thing, but that's okay. It sounds like he's ready to accept those costs, not that I would agree with him necessarily.
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7. January 2010 @ 08:56 |
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OK, he's gonna try to fight a battle that can't be won? Things on the internet cannot be thwarted, it'll just multiply. But I'm assuming he's looking at it as an investment. Invest in the lawyers to sue sue sue and in the future see a reduction in the sites willing to stream this stuff..therefore forcing the ones dependent on those necessary sites to buy the event on PPV. But my guess is, most people that are use to pirating are not gonna become payers so it seems like it can be lose lose.
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7. January 2010 @ 09:40 |
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Morons........ either go after the big name sites you hear of or don't bother at all...you can't afford to police the net.....
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7. January 2010 @ 10:32 |
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. . . sound to me like somebody has taken too many shots to the old noggin
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IguanaC64
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7. January 2010 @ 10:36 |
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I'll have to check out Justin.tv tonight when I get home!
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7. January 2010 @ 10:49 |
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...instead of taking out lawsuits why dont they just send top fighters to go around peoples houses/businesses and sort out this problem????
And then what?
Put them in a triangle choke until they submit, silly goose.
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7. January 2010 @ 11:21 |
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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
...instead of taking out lawsuits why dont they just send top fighters to go around peoples houses/businesses and sort out this problem????
And then what?
Put them in a triangle choke until they submit, silly goose.
A bunch of numbskulls walking around and choking people...I can see that...What if they use a trapeze choke?
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7. January 2010 @ 11:28 |
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They wouldn't dare to knock on REAL peoples doors.. sports entertainment.. oh yeah.. actors LMFAO!! Not that I would like to meet any of the animals up a dark back alley, but I can hold my own against most my size and larger.. bang on my door and accuse me of being a pirate?.. I have a nice bat.. oops!
Now the clever people will find a heap of unused ip's belonging to this company.. and start streaming from them.. we love to see businesses sue themselves .. hahahaha
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7. January 2010 @ 17:38 |
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Originally posted by scum101:
They wouldn't dare to knock on REAL peoples doors.. sports entertainment.. oh yeah.. actors LMFAO!! Not that I would like to meet any of the animals up a dark back alley, but I can hold my own against most my size and larger.. bang on my door and accuse me of being a pirate?.. I have a nice bat.. oops!
Now the clever people will find a heap of unused ip's belonging to this company.. and start streaming from them.. we love to see businesses sue themselves .. hahahaha
Uhhh...what? "Actors"?
In Pro wrestling yes, but not in MMA which is what the UFC is..this is for real and a very multi-disciplined fighting sport.
Nice try on the macho "bravado" front, but I seriously doubt you would stand up well against any pro MMA fighter in your weight class, or even a lower weight class for that matter. I'm a 2nd dan black in Tae-kwon-do with experience in other styles as well, and honestly...you don't know what would be in store for you, I think you'd find that bat of yours would need to be surgically removed from your anus if you tried that with an MMA "actor...LMFAO"
As for the article, unfortunately I think this will drive out much of the streaming and torrents of UFC and other MMA stuff. They have a ton of $$$ and there have been some serious hits to the torrent community lately, with major fines and sites shutting down. It's all starting to take it's toll I think, and many sites simply don't want the legal hassle and costs that could be forthcoming.
They will win this fight eventually, either by flooding lawsuits and simply driving sites down with overwhelming pressure (as they're doing now), or getting Internet laws in place that will strangle much of what we believe should be free content. Many countries are talking laws about Web governance and unfortunately, the web as we know it now may be a dying entity.
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8. January 2010 @ 00:58 |
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...instead of taking out lawsuits why don't they just send top fighters to go around peoples houses/businesses and sort out this problem????
And then what?
They will stream the beat down live on their site where paying customers will be able watch it with Joe Rogan's commentary.
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8. January 2010 @ 05:36 |
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Originally posted by scum101:
They wouldn't dare to knock on REAL peoples doors.. sports entertainment.. oh yeah.. actors LMFAO!! Not that I would like to meet any of the animals up a dark back alley, but I can hold my own against most my size and larger.. bang on my door and accuse me of being a pirate?.. I have a nice bat.. oops!
Now the clever people will find a heap of unused ip's belonging to this company.. and start streaming from them.. we love to see businesses sue themselves .. hahahaha
Uhhh...what? "Actors"?
In Pro wrestling yes, but not in MMA which is what the UFC is..this is for real and a very multi-disciplined fighting sport.
Nice try on the macho "bravado" front, but I seriously doubt you would stand up well against any pro MMA fighter in your weight class, or even a lower weight class for that matter. I'm a 2nd dan black in Tae-kwon-do with experience in other styles as well, and honestly...you don't know what would be in store for you, I think you'd find that bat of yours would need to be surgically removed from your anus if you tried that with an MMA "actor...LMFAO"
As for the article, unfortunately I think this will drive out much of the streaming and torrents of UFC and other MMA stuff. They have a ton of $$$ and there have been some serious hits to the torrent community lately, with major fines and sites shutting down. It's all starting to take it's toll I think, and many sites simply don't want the legal hassle and costs that could be forthcoming.
They will win this fight eventually, either by flooding lawsuits and simply driving sites down with overwhelming pressure (as they're doing now), or getting Internet laws in place that will strangle much of what we believe should be free content. Many countries are talking laws about Web governance and unfortunately, the web as we know it now may be a dying entity.
Well said I literally LMAO at his comments. I am an MMA fighter, with training in both traditional disciplines including TKD :) And I grew up in a rough area. A baseball bat ain't going to save you as Chappy said you would need it surgically removing.
These guys aren't pro wrestlers they are legitimate fighters, who step up against opponents that can literally kill you in a heartbeat. There's a reason why cage fighting was banned for years. This is real. Think your tough in your weight class, and can hold your own? Step into a ring against any pro and see how long you last. You last more than 3 minutes and the MMA community will pay you your medical bills, because you'll be hired to fight professionally.
At the end of the day this is for principles, Dana says it'll cost them more and they haven't lost anything, except potential income. Well although he's in for a battle, I say fair play to him for recognising that, it's potential and not actual lost sales.
They'll go after the hosting services and the cappers not the watchers. Remove the source and the problem dissapears. Make note he is referring to streaming services and not torrents or other uploads of PPV's this could tip the balance in his favour, it will force groups back underground closing communities and prevent the widespread showing on places like justin.tv
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8. January 2010 @ 08:51 |
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i actually watched a 2 UFC fights on tv the otherday for the first time and them fights seem pretty tame.ive seen kickboxing and taekwondo competitions that look more vicious.i did 3 years training my self and i thing if i started training again i'd probably beat some of them and i guarentee my brother or my cousin would kick there ass.
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8. January 2010 @ 09:08 |
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Chappy.. I was a rock club bouncer for 3 years.. come to my house and I will kick YOUR arse for you quite happily..
Last person tried it woke up 9 hours later with a wired up jaw.. and I only hit them once.
Right now some of my friends are hunting down this companies ip's and experimenting with ip spoofing methods for streaming. They will be shown up for their stupidity.
As usual a fanboy doesn't have the intellect to see a joke.. *giggles* .. come my house and get your arse well and truly kicked by a girl XD
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8. January 2010 @ 09:56 |
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Well said I literally LMAO at his comments. I am an MMA fighter, with training in both traditional disciplines including TKD :) And I grew up in a rough area. A baseball bat ain't going to save you as Chappy said you would need it surgically removing.
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Every time time I read something like that, it makes me laugh...and sad at the same time...C'mon, it's a public forum, no one is gonna be really impressed...too much muscle flexing, illusions of grandeur,invincibility, not convoluted enough meninges.
http://martialarts.about.com/b/2010/01/0...-club-fight.htm
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8. January 2010 @ 10:11 |
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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
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Well said I literally LMAO at his comments. I am an MMA fighter, with training in both traditional disciplines including TKD :) And I grew up in a rough area. A baseball bat ain't going to save you as Chappy said you would need it surgically removing.
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Every time time I read something like that, it makes me laugh...and sad at the same time...C'mon, it's a public forum, no one is gonna be really impressed...too much muscle flexing, illusions of grandeur,invincibility, not convoluted enough meninges.
http://martialarts.about.com/b/2010/01/0...ght.htm
I was flexing nothing, nor mouthing off trying to look big on a public forum, I merely stated those points to show where I was coming from, as in my own personal experience.
However, if that's what you want to take from it that's fine.
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8. January 2010 @ 16:16 |
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Originally posted by scum101:
Chappy.. I was a rock club bouncer for 3 years.. come to my house and I will kick YOUR arse for you quite happily..
Last person tried it woke up 9 hours later with a wired up jaw.. and I only hit them once.
Right now some of my friends are hunting down this companies ip's and experimenting with ip spoofing methods for streaming. They will be shown up for their stupidity.
As usual a fanboy doesn't have the intellect to see a joke.. *giggles* .. come my house and get your arse well and truly kicked by a girl XD
Please...stop, before you really make an ass of yourself, you're NOT intimidating anyone.
I'm no "fanboy" but I do like the fighting arts, and when you say MMA fighters are "actors", as like pro wrestling employs, then you're just asking for a verbal spar aren't you...your "joke" was not obvious.
Now you're attempting to intimidate me? I have my own history buddy and you know nothing of it. Plus I'm not going to try and pump myself up here by posting whatever that history may be, it looks ridiculous and accomplishes nothing. So this be the last of this stupidity.
Back on topic, unfortunately I see the end of sharing as we all know it now in the not too distant future. While we all love to say that they simply can't take us ALL on, and we'll always keep opening up new sites for sharing, in reality I just can't see it continuing too much longer. Already many site admins I know well are contemplating closing up before the hammer falls, there is simply too much pressure being applied. As new lawsuits are laid and bigger fines assessed, even the most die-hard share folk are going to think twice about it. And the lawmakers are formulating new ways to combat it as I type, soon there will be universal laws governing all of what we can or can't do with any type of copyrighted materials. The web is quickly becoming a marketplace with small communities (forums), instead of the other way round which is what we've been used to all these years.
Sure, some newer technology will replace torrents and keep us on ahead for a short time again, but we simply don't have the resources that they do to fight us, so eventually they're gonna win this fight.
BTW scum101, if I ever came over to your house, I'd much rather have a beer than a fight anyday ;)
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