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Warner joins Fox, Universal and pulls new releases from Redbox

article published on 13 August, 2009

Following in the footsteps of Fox and Universal, Warner Entertainment has apparently decided to deny DVD rental kiosk operator Redbox access to new releases until a month after traditional brick and mortar stores get them. Home Media Magazine is reporting that Warner Home Video has revised the terms of their wholesaler agreements to forbid sales to any kiosk operator. Instead those companies ... [ read the full article ]

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pphoenix
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13. August 2009 @ 18:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and yet again the movie giants prove their contempt for their customers!

down with the monopolies of the MPAA & RIAA.


MPAA, MPA, FACT, AFACT, Ect:

# Sony Pictures
# Warner Bros. (Time Warner)
# Universal Studios (NBC Universal)
# The Walt Disney Company
# 20th Century Fox (News Corporation)
# Paramount Pictures Viacom?(DreamWorks owners since February 2006)


RIAA, CRIA, SOUNDEXCHANGE, BPI, IFPI, Ect:

# Sony BMG Music Entertainment
# Warner Music Group
# Universal Music Group
# EMI
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13. August 2009 @ 22:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Question don't most of these film makers make rental only copies and would that have an effect on when rental stores get them?
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13. August 2009 @ 23:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
These people who run these studios are morons, people that want to purchase the dvd "will", people who just want to rent "will". Just cause they hold a new release for a month from redbox will not make me cave in and go buy the dvd. Why dont they focus on putting out quality movies that I will want to watch a couple of times and maybe I will buy the dvd.
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14. August 2009 @ 00:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I can't say I'll miss redbox, but such a selective targeting of one company is always unsettling.

Also:
These studios claim that redbox is bad because the movies are not available for purchase next to the rentals. In my experience, this is not true. Most of the redbox machines I have seen were located in stores that sold DVDs and BluRays, and the box is usualy near the DVDs and BluRays.
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14. August 2009 @ 07:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by tony2toes:
These people who run these studios are morons, people that want to purchase the dvd "will", people who just want to rent "will". Just cause they hold a new release for a month from redbox will not make me cave in and go buy the dvd. Why dont they focus on putting out quality movies that I will want to watch a couple of times and maybe I will buy the dvd.
Ya and not counting the thousands of discs that they by a quarterly.... its like they can't see that they are making money either way.
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14. August 2009 @ 08:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by pphoenix:
and yet again the movie giants prove their contempt for their customers!

down with the monopolies of the MPAA & RIAA.


MPAA, MPA, FACT, AFACT, Ect:

# Sony Pictures
# Warner Bros. (Time Warner)
# Universal Studios (NBC Universal)
# The Walt Disney Company
# 20th Century Fox (News Corporation)
# Paramount Pictures Viacom?(DreamWorks owners since February 2006)


RIAA, CRIA, SOUNDEXCHANGE, BPI, IFPI, Ect:

# Sony BMG Music Entertainment
# Warner Music Group
# Universal Music Group
# EMI
nobrainer, you still lurking around these parts?
varnull
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14. August 2009 @ 08:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
^^^^^^^^^^^ .. what does your post add?

This is getting pointless.. redbox have already decided to go into wallyworld and just buy the retail disks and rent them out.. same as any small independent rental store can.
Guess they read my post suggesting they do just that.. nice one guys.. now why don't you come to the UK so I can pay £1 for my rip instead of £1.50 in electric to download it?

I will never give a brass farthing to the cartel.. they can suck it and see.. until i get rid of that particular bit of my anatomy.. I might send the leftovers to the mpaa with a nice letter.. only way I can see of making a point.

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varnull, out of all the people here i thought you would have been one of the members to get that.

Anyways...let them do what they want. Out of all of the mess that goes around with DRM and X company doing so and so to Y company I have yet to find myself in a situation where it has effected me in obtaining the content I want to use.

This is probably a very crude and snobby way of looking at things but oh well, I can't help it. This is a never ending battle with these guys so either get with the times and learn how to REALLY use the internet or fall back on your dependance of using something like Redbox for however long you can.

Honestly, I hope Redbox wins in the end but Ive never found myself renting anything from these guys. I'll always be rooting for the little man but the guys over at Redbox couldn't have really thought that their company was going to go flawless without any hiccups considering who their unwanted business partners are could they?
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14. August 2009 @ 10:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Warner's plan can only succeed if consumers are choosing kiosks because of the movies they have rather than for reasons of convenience.
Imagine this: make a brick and mortar store that only sells DVDs and then put a Redbox in the front of the store. How many people will go there to specifically rent movies? One of the key factors of Redbox is its convenience.
The second biggest factor is the $1/day rental charge for new releases. If the studios are so concerned about people going to BB or some other similar rental store so they can be exposed to purchase a movie, then they should partner with major rental stores that are still alive and lower the rental fee to a competitive price to that of Rebox.

I think that if the studios win this deal, then a lot more people will be turning to Netflix. The consumer likes convenience.
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14. August 2009 @ 21:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What if they are just testing the waters? Next thing you know they will be trying to boost their sales by not allowing anyone to rent movies for the first month of release, not just Redbox. I certainly wouldn't put it past them.
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14. August 2009 @ 23:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Xian:
What if they are just testing the waters? Next thing you know they will be trying to boost their sales by not allowing anyone to rent movies for the first month of release, not just Redbox. I certainly wouldn't put it past them.

I think even the big movie houses know that this will spark a lot of piracy...here is a typical script of what would happen:

John buys the latest BS movie from walmart, watches it, and recomends it to Bill. Bill try to rent it, but it is not at the store, and he does not want to spend $20 on it. The next day John asks bill if he had watched it, and he tells him why he did not. The next day John brings a DVDR of the movie to work and gives it to Bill...without bill even asking for it.
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15. August 2009 @ 22:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The dollar complaints are awful. It is only a buck because their is no store, employees, rent, utilities etc. This is the reason for the cheap price. I have looked but have yet to rent or buy. The companies complaining is just another way to say we need more money(ceo,mgmt).
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20. August 2009 @ 07:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by tony2toes:
These people who run these studios are morons, people that want to purchase the dvd "will", people who just want to rent "will". Just cause they hold a new release for a month from redbox will not make me cave in and go buy the dvd. Why dont they focus on putting out quality movies that I will want to watch a couple of times and maybe I will buy the dvd.

I agree 100% with you. Personally, i have in mind which movies i'm gonna rent or buy because i don't buy every movie that comes up. Mostly, i buy horror films or comic based like watchmen.
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