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Women arrested for taping minutes of 'Twilight' film with camera
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article published on 5 December, 2009
A 22-year old woman was arrested in Chicago this week for recording three minutes of the newest "Twilight" film with a digital camera at the movie theater, and spent two days in jail.
Additionally, Samantha Tumpach now faces up to three years in jail after being charged with count of criminal use of a motion picture exhibition.
However, Tumpach says that she wasn't filming the movie ... [ read the full article ]
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chris4160
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5. December 2009 @ 00:26 |
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She deserves 10 years just for watching twilight... I do not see why everybody likes it, it is so lame.
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5. December 2009 @ 00:30 |
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Originally posted by chris4160:
She deserves 10 years just for watching twilight... I do not see why everybody likes it, it so lame.
lame comment
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5. December 2009 @ 00:49 |
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Originally posted by chris4160:
She deserves 10 years just for watching twilight... I do not see why everybody likes it, it so lame.
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No, just my opinion. It is obvious that you like Twilight.
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5. December 2009 @ 00:52 |
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Not at all, I haven't even seen it. I just don't see how your comment is relevant. I find this a serious matter with how stupid authorities can be.
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5. December 2009 @ 00:57 |
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Give her the Chair!
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5. December 2009 @ 01:13 |
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From what I read the managers insisted on pressing charges against her because the MPAA has a lousy $500 reward, for "catching" someone illegally recording a movie. The MPAA even has a website setup to "educate" people about it.
Why would I call the $500 a lousy reward? Sure, to an employee making $7.25/hour that is almost two weeks of full-time work but it is less than pocket change to the MPAA.
I can't believe that they have caming classified as a Felony; someone can have manslaughter charges brought against them while "only" getting a misdemeanor, and little or zero jail time, or even supervised probation.
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5. December 2009 @ 01:20 |
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F**KING PIRATE! How dare she accidently record a few minutes of a movie in terrible quality in the background! I bet those pirate bastards didn't even pay the royalties when they sang "Happy Birthday".
[if you can't detect the sarcasm, it is there]
Let this be a lesson to you: Don't pay for movies, especialy at the theater. This would never have happened if they had pirated the movie and had the party at home...they could have even given the kid a burned DVD of the movie.
While agree that the series is downright terrible, most everything in the theater is just as bad. Some people like tripe...I prefer steak, but I am not going to take their tripe away from them...and they don't deserve to be locked up for watching it. However, they do deserve to be locked up for funding terrorist organizations like MPAA, RIAA, Al Qaeda, etc...
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siber
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5. December 2009 @ 03:06 |
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It is very understandable that Theater Operators forbid the use of cameras in their facilities, given the present circumstances. The woman should obviously have known that, I wonder about her common sense.
On the other hand, in the past, I believe a stern warning and possibly a removal of the tape or flashcard whould have been the only consequence of the transgression. The action taken only makes for additional animosity towards the industry.
The Twilight series is clearly targeted towards 14 year old girls. I wouldn't mind being 14 again but - as I am much older - I am going to abstain from criticizing the movie. I may as well criticize Sesame Street for not having enough sex and violence in it.
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5. December 2009 @ 03:10 |
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well for starters they should of stopped her on her way in and told her she couldnt take the camera in.the second thing is I thought if you own a video camera you can record anything want as long as the activities in the video are legal.The police and the prosecuters are being bastards in this case.As for the twilight movies themselves i got told their crap and wouldnt waste my money going to see them.
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5. December 2009 @ 04:21 |
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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
the second thing is I thought if you own a video camera you can record anything want as long as the activities in the video are legal.
This is most certainly not true. Everyone knows (unless you're really old or living under a rock or always ignore the copyright warnings or never listen to the news) that you can't record a motion picture as it's copyrighted and she doesn't have permission from the producer(s) or developer(s) to make a copy for recreational use.
I hope she doesn't get even 6 months though, that's kind of ridiculous. They understand the situation and she screwed up. A fine I think would suffice, but not jail... at least not for that long... People have done much worse things and gotten off quite lightly.
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5. December 2009 @ 08:41 |
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Sorry but if shes not re selling it there is no crime here.... stupid media nazis.....
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5. December 2009 @ 08:53 |
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If the video started at the begining of the movie, i could understand it a little bit more... If it is a random 3 minute clip and not even fully pointed at the screen, i feel there is no case.
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5. December 2009 @ 08:53 |
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This is most certainly not true. Everyone knows (unless you're really old or living under a rock or always ignore the copyright warnings or never listen to the news) that you can't record a motion picture as it's copyrighted and she doesn't have permission from the producer(s) or developer(s) to make a copy for recreational use.
I hope she doesn't get even 6 months though, that's kind of ridiculous. They understand the situation and she screwed up. A fine I think would suffice, but not jail... at least not for that long... People have done much worse things and gotten off quite lightly.
I'm pretty sure they should have to prove intent to pirate the film - she wasn't making a copy of the film, she was filming her friends party and the movie was on in the background. Now unless she sat in there silently for 2 hours and solely focused on the screen for the majority of the film logic would say they don't have a case.
Annoyingly, many of the larger film and music players have infringed other copyrights in the past, and rather than prison and ruining their lives, they just apologise and promise never to do it again, or pay a fee after they get caught - end of story. Seems like a two tier system to me.
If the mpaa have any sense they will look at the video footage, realise that she wasn't copying the film, note that this will be bad for business, and help to get any charges dropped against her, if only as a PR campaign to say they arn't the criminals people think they are. As it happens, they don't have much sense, and instead will probably attempt to throw the book at her as an example to others, making sure they ruin her life, and everybody will just make noise about how unfair it is, but do nothing about it, as usual.
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siber
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5. December 2009 @ 08:59 |
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I am all for this lady filming anything she wants, especially her sister's birthday party. I do understand the Movie Theater Folks not allowing cameras on their premises. You can't expect them to know who wants to record a harmless Birthday Party and who wants to record the whole movie and sell it on the corner. Her best option would have been to ask first.
Common sense needs to reign on both sides, not just on the side of the "Stupid Media Nazis".
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5. December 2009 @ 09:03 |
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Originally posted by siber:
I am all for this lady filming anything she wants, especially her sister's birthday party. I do understand the Movie Theater Folks not allowing cameras on their premises. You can't expect them to know who wants to record a harmless Birthday Party and who wants to record the whole movie and sell it on the corner. Her best option would have been to ask first.
Common sense needs to reign on both sides, not just on the side of the "Stupid Media Nazis".
Yes common sense starts when its sold without a license and not before......
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5. December 2009 @ 09:04 |
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I love it how america calls itself "land of the free". Yeah right.
This incident proves its turning into a poilce state like nazi germany where people were arrested and sent for years into jail for doing nothing. No crime was committed by her.
Glad I dont live in that socially backward hole of a country.
The managers should of just told her to put the phone away, or leave the cinema.
I hope those police(cowards with guns on a power trip) which arrested her, get shot in the line of duty they deserve it for participating in such an unjust act. What a waste of police resources.
Those managers deserve something like that too.
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siber
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5. December 2009 @ 09:15 |
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You should never need a license for selling or distributing Common Sense. You should be able to acquire common sense every minute of the day, everywhere and at all times, at no cost to you, gratis, for free, for sibbedy-doo-da.....
If you go into a Movie Theater and film a movie or part of a movie, and you assume you should not have to ask, you need a large serving of Common Sense. If you think that you should only be questioned at the moment you stand on the corner trying to sell, you need an extra helping.
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5. December 2009 @ 09:19 |
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Originally posted by siber:
You should never need a license for selling or distributing Common Sense. You should be able to acquire common sense every minute of the day, everywhere and at all times, at no cost to you, gratis, for free, for sibbedy-doo-da.....
If you go into a Movie Theater and film a movie or part of a movie, and you assume you should not have to ask, you need a large serving of Common Sense. If you think that you should only be questioned at the moment you stand on the corner trying to sell, you need an extra helping.
It dose not matter what is seen,heard,talked about, filmed or pictured when it comes to IP/CP all that should matter if its sold/gains a profit without a license.
Its that simple.
Now with that said should theaters be allowed to kick out people that tape/film,ect yes, however things like that should not be criminalized EVER, all that dose is makes fans and consumers into criminals.
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5. December 2009 @ 09:20 |
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Originally posted by Adamontar:
I love it how america calls itself "land of the free". Yeah right.
This incident proves its turning into a poilce state like nazi germany where people were arrested and sent for years into jail for doing nothing. No crime was committed by her.
Glad I dont live in that socially backward hole of a country.
The managers should of just told her to put the phone away, or leave the cinema.
I hope those police(cowards with guns on a power trip) which arrested her, get shot in the line of duty they deserve it for participating in such an unjust act. What a waste of police resources.
Those managers deserve something like that too.
^That^ reminded me of about 5 Dead Kennedys songs.I Agree, Oh and Twilight sucks just had to put that out there.
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siber
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5. December 2009 @ 09:21 |
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I agree
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5. December 2009 @ 09:22 |
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Originally posted by siber:
I agree
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5. December 2009 @ 09:42 |
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Huge Sigh...(I have a headache...)
with:It dose not matter what is seen,heard,talked about, filmed or pictured when it comes to IP/CP all that should matter if its sold/gains a profit without a license.
Its that simple.
Now with that said should theaters be allowed to kick out people that tape/film,ect yes, however things like that should not be criminalized EVER, all that dose is makes fans and consumers into criminals.
with:The managers should of just told her to put the phone away, or leave the cinema.
It's Saturday afternoon in Western Europe and I'm recovering from a night on the town. Maybe, I'll make it another one tonight. I stated earlier that, while it made sense for the theater operators to react to the woman carrying a camera, their reaction was totally over the top by calling in the police. A stern warning was all that was needed. I did question the common sense of the woman in not wondering if it was OK to use a camera. (BTW, if she was just using her mobile phone, then the two days in jail sound like a lawsuit to me...).
Obviously I never questioned the fact that this should never be considered a crime as long as the intend to profit/sell isn't there, as repeatedly pointed out by ZippyDSM.
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5. December 2009 @ 10:02 |
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Originally posted by KSib:
she doesn't have permission from the producer(s) or developer(s) to make a copy for recreational use.
Recreational use? lol, is she going to roll it up and smoke it?
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5. December 2009 @ 10:04 |
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Originally posted by siber:
Huge Sigh...(I have a headache...)
with:It dose not matter what is seen,heard,talked about, filmed or pictured when it comes to IP/CP all that should matter if its sold/gains a profit without a license.
Its that simple.
Now with that said should theaters be allowed to kick out people that tape/film,ect yes, however things like that should not be criminalized EVER, all that dose is makes fans and consumers into criminals.
with:The managers should of just told her to put the phone away, or leave the cinema.
It's Saturday afternoon in Western Europe and I'm recovering from a night on the town. Maybe, I'll make it another one tonight. I stated earlier that, while it made sense for the theater operators to react to the woman carrying a camera, their reaction was totally over the top by calling in the police. A stern warning was all that was needed. I did question the common sense of the woman in not wondering if it was OK to use a camera. (BTW, if she was just using her mobile phone, then the two days in jail sound like a lawsuit to me...).
Obviously I never questioned the fact that this should never be considered a crime as long as the intend to profit/sell isn't there, as repeatedly pointed out by ZippyDSM.
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5. December 2009 @ 10:05 |
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Originally posted by KSib:
she doesn't have permission from the producer(s) or developer(s) to make a copy for recreational use.
Recreational use? lol, is she going to roll it up and smoke it?
Sadly that is how it works......
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