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Workaround in the works for Xbox Live bans
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article published on 14 November, 2009
Earlier this week we reported that 1 million Xbox Live members had been banned from the service for using modified consoles, a significant portion of the 20 million XBL subscribers.
This weekend, 360mods is reporting that a possible workaround is in the works, that will help permanently banned users to access XBL again without having to buy a new console.
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jaqafter
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14. November 2009 @ 17:38 |
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While I do like the ability for modders and homebrewers to do their magic. I a surprised at how few have mentioned hackers when it comes to this whole ban business. Hackers on online gaming for PC is a reason many people have made flight to consoles, and I imagine a few of the people supporting modded systems are those rallying against cheaters. A users support for modded consoles seem to be firmly rooted in what THEY want, and not what it may be allowing the the xbox environment.
Wallhackers suck.
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14. November 2009 @ 17:47 |
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This is stupid you can't do that method unless you haven't upgraded to the new dashboard meaning you couldn't connect to live anyway. So you wouldn't be banned by the latest ban-hammer. Also Ixtreme LT is no good if your already banned is it! We still have nothing :-(.
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14. November 2009 @ 19:55 |
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MS should have built a better system one where online play can not be hacked.Frankly if you use you'r modded system online as a normal system be ready to have it whacked. Hows the PS3 modding coming along anyway?
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14. November 2009 @ 19:57 |
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This requirement made me laugh.
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your 8955 live console + cpu key
Were gonna have newbs in there thousands asking how to perform the JTAG hack. GOOD LUCK is all i can say ha! Maybe its time for a lil AD vacation :)
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Morreale
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14. November 2009 @ 22:56 |
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This method is just far to complicated to the average flashed 360 user, I think, instead of full out looking into this stuff I'd rather just buy a broken 360 and do an x-clamps fix.
So I did. The total cost including items needed to fix and the broken console was less than $20 and a few hours on a sick day to make sure I was doing things right. Before it had error 0020, now it works!
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14. November 2009 @ 23:49 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Hows the PS3 modding coming along anyway?
Not wasting news and forum space because nobody attempts resulting in actual game sales and profit for the developer so they don't give up like PSP and Xbox
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H08
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15. November 2009 @ 00:57 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
MS should have built a better system one where online play can not be hacked.Frankly if you use you'r modded system online as a normal system be ready to have it whacked. Hows the PS3 modding coming along anyway?
lol, dont go asking about that in the PS3 general disscusion
http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-153/threads_of_shame-792221/
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Amak
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15. November 2009 @ 03:46 |
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Misleading title. This will NOT workaround any bans. It will avoid them, though. Should use a better title.
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Hows the PS3 modding coming along anyway?
Not wasting news and forum space because nobody attempts resulting in actual game sales and profit for the developer so they don't give up like PSP and Xbox
WRONG WRONG WRONG. Developers have been turning profits, prime example is MW2. If they aren't turning a profit, the game is either bad or the economy. Do some research before you start bashing pirates.
@ZippyDSM:
Live has not been hacked, the console itself has, allowing for the booting of backups. It is borderline impossible to cheat on live, unless you're counting ingame glitches. Take your ill-researched PS3 fanboyism somewhere else, please.
@jaqafter:
It is almost impossible/difficult to cheat on live like you would with Halo 2. Modding is exclusively to booting backups.
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scum101
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15. November 2009 @ 04:07 |
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hahaha.. that cpu key method isn't going anywhere. to get round a server side ban you have to hack the server or convince it you have a different lump of hardware.
Why do you think the way they detect has remained a secret? .. because it's so funny watching all the headless chickens running around shooting in the dark and making BS claims about "stealth patches" .. as people have just found out.. those mean nothing at all.
Workaround for live account ban.. errrmmm.. I smell that same old smell here.. once M$ ban a live account for abuse it stays banned... the account has nothing to do with the console,
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stuntman_
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15. November 2009 @ 05:10 |
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I figured I would get banned eventually so I wasn't that shocked a week ago when I did get banned. More than anything I hope someone figures out a way to restore hard drive functionality to already banned consoles. The new GTA just can't run without an install it looks like crap. I miss this feature more than live.
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15. November 2009 @ 07:15 |
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Actually scum, the console gets banned, not the Live Account.
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djeazyg
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15. November 2009 @ 10:28 |
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Originally posted by stuntman_:
I figured I would get banned eventually so I wasn't that shocked a week ago when I did get banned. More than anything I hope someone figures out a way to restore hard drive functionality to already banned consoles. The new GTA just can't run without an install it looks like crap. I miss this feature more than live.
I went and got another console only because I want to install to the hard drive. Its amazing how much I miss that. The 360 is so much quieter and way smoother when the game is installed on the drive. I could care less about live. I like updates and addons but the hard drive is my main issue.
Can anybody tell me if I put my hard drive from the banned 360 on to a 360 that is not modded, can I still use the gamer tag and saves from the banned box? Or will I just get banned on the new 360 as well.
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15. November 2009 @ 12:21 |
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Misleading title. This will NOT workaround any bans. It will avoid them, though. Should use a better title.
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Hows the PS3 modding coming along anyway?
Not wasting news and forum space because nobody attempts resulting in actual game sales and profit for the developer so they don't give up like PSP and Xbox
WRONG WRONG WRONG. Developers have been turning profits, prime example is MW2. If they aren't turning a profit, the game is either bad or the economy. Do some research before you start bashing pirates.
@ZippyDSM:
Live has not been hacked, the console itself has, allowing for the booting of backups. It is borderline impossible to cheat on live, unless you're counting ingame glitches. Take your ill-researched PS3 fanboyism somewhere else, please.
@jaqafter:
It is almost impossible/difficult to cheat on live like you would with Halo 2. Modding is exclusively to booting backups.
Ya but I meant you can still get online with a hacked unit.
oh and MW2 sucks.....
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15. November 2009 @ 12:33 |
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WRONG WRONG WRONG. Developers have been turning profits, prime example is MW2. If they aren't turning a profit, the game is either bad or the economy. Do some research before you start bashing pirates.
Is that why we see so many great PSP games out there?
Not to mension that no new developers heading to PSP?
MW2 is on DS. Easily it could have been on PSP but they stayed away.
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15. November 2009 @ 12:35 |
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Originally posted by stuntman_:
I figured I would get banned eventually so I wasn't that shocked a week ago when I did get banned. More than anything I hope someone figures out a way to restore hard drive functionality to already banned consoles. The new GTA just can't run without an install it looks like crap. I miss this feature more than live.
I went and got another console only because I want to install to the hard drive. Its amazing how much I miss that. The 360 is so much quieter and way smoother when the game is installed on the drive. I could care less about live. I like updates and addons but the hard drive is my main issue.
Can anybody tell me if I put my hard drive from the banned 360 on to a 360 that is not modded, can I still use the gamer tag and saves from the banned box? Or will I just get banned on the new 360 as well.
As far as I know(and what everyone tells me) they ban consoles not accounts or harddrives or data.
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wavee1
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15. November 2009 @ 14:53 |
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xnmalletx
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15. November 2009 @ 15:41 |
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Originally posted by stuntman_:
I figured I would get banned eventually so I wasn't that shocked a week ago when I did get banned. More than anything I hope someone figures out a way to restore hard drive functionality to already banned consoles. The new GTA just can't run without an install it looks like crap. I miss this feature more than live.
I went and got another console only because I want to install to the hard drive. Its amazing how much I miss that. The 360 is so much quieter and way smoother when the game is installed on the drive. I could care less about live. I like updates and addons but the hard drive is my main issue.
Can anybody tell me if I put my hard drive from the banned 360 on to a 360 that is not modded, can I still use the gamer tag and saves from the banned box? Or will I just get banned on the new 360 as well.
As far as I know(and what everyone tells me) they ban consoles not accounts or harddrives or data.
Yes, you can do that. One of my Xboxs got banned the other day and i just moved the hard drive into the other one and i was back up and gaming again.
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djeazyg
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15. November 2009 @ 19:07 |
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Originally posted by stuntman_:
I figured I would get banned eventually so I wasn't that shocked a week ago when I did get banned. More than anything I hope someone figures out a way to restore hard drive functionality to already banned consoles. The new GTA just can't run without an install it looks like crap. I miss this feature more than live.
I went and got another console only because I want to install to the hard drive. Its amazing how much I miss that. The 360 is so much quieter and way smoother when the game is installed on the drive. I could care less about live. I like updates and addons but the hard drive is my main issue.
Can anybody tell me if I put my hard drive from the banned 360 on to a 360 that is not modded, can I still use the gamer tag and saves from the banned box? Or will I just get banned on the new 360 as well.
As far as I know(and what everyone tells me) they ban consoles not accounts or harddrives or data.
Yes, you can do that. One of my Xboxs got banned the other day and i just moved the hard drive into the other one and i was back up and gaming again.
That's funny because I just tried it and all my saves and my game profile are corrupted and can't be used. I don't know or care about achievements but the saves and Profile are corrupted.
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15. November 2009 @ 19:16 |
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Originally posted by stuntman_:
I figured I would get banned eventually so I wasn't that shocked a week ago when I did get banned. More than anything I hope someone figures out a way to restore hard drive functionality to already banned consoles. The new GTA just can't run without an install it looks like crap. I miss this feature more than live.
I went and got another console only because I want to install to the hard drive. Its amazing how much I miss that. The 360 is so much quieter and way smoother when the game is installed on the drive. I could care less about live. I like updates and addons but the hard drive is my main issue.
Can anybody tell me if I put my hard drive from the banned 360 on to a 360 that is not modded, can I still use the gamer tag and saves from the banned box? Or will I just get banned on the new 360 as well.
As far as I know(and what everyone tells me) they ban consoles not accounts or harddrives or data.
Yes, you can do that. One of my Xboxs got banned the other day and i just moved the hard drive into the other one and i was back up and gaming again.
That's funny because I just tried it and all my saves and my game profile are corrupted and can't be used. I don't know or care about achievements but the saves and Profile are corrupted.
Some of the data on the HDD will be corrupted if its used on a banned unit. So once you get banned stop useign the HDD if you value your data...
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djeazyg
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15. November 2009 @ 19:54 |
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That's a little hard to do since the game had to load before I found out I was banned. DAMMIT!!!
Yea well..... You play with fire and get burned. I knew it might happen.
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rportell
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15. November 2009 @ 21:39 |
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I had a problem with my GT being corrupt it wasn't from a banned console. What I did thou was delete the gamer tag and recover them. worked fine after that. Hope this helps.
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djeazyg
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15. November 2009 @ 22:23 |
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I would try that but right now I don't have a 360 that's not modded. If I go on-line with the second 360 I fear I will get that one banned as well. Hopefully the new one shows up in the next day or two.
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DoomLight
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16. November 2009 @ 00:06 |
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as cool as it is to mod ur system with the firmware hack. i wouldn't risk it. the xbox is a 300 dollar system for those of us that bought the premium ones back when it was launched. i myself do care about my achievement score and game saves.
if hackin ur system is worth losing game saves. be my guest lol. least with PSP soft mods those are ok.
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Amak
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16. November 2009 @ 00:53 |
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Originally posted by scum101:
hahaha.. that cpu key method isn't going anywhere. to get round a server side ban you have to hack the server or convince it you have a different lump of hardware.
Why do you think the way they detect has remained a secret? .. because it's so funny watching all the headless chickens running around shooting in the dark and making BS claims about "stealth patches" .. as people have just found out.. those mean nothing at all.
Workaround for live account ban.. errrmmm.. I smell that same old smell here.. once M$ ban a live account for abuse it stays banned... the account has nothing to do with the console,
You're a moron. The cpu-key method allows you to flash the NAND with one from another console, effectively giving your console a new identity. You're using the same console, but it's ID doesn't say that.
And stealth patches DO work. M$ detected the iXtreme behavior, not the stealthed ISOs.
@ZippyDSM:
The save corruption is carried at the profile level. So if you deleted the corrupted profile and transfer a non-corrupted one over, you're ok. I copied my saves from a 20gb to my new 120gb and they work just fine after removing my banned profile. This obviously has to be done on a non-banned console, though se7ensins posted a method allowing you to gain gamerscore points on a banned console.
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16. November 2009 @ 01:10 |
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Originally posted by scum101:
hahaha.. that cpu key method isn't going anywhere. to get round a server side ban you have to hack the server or convince it you have a different lump of hardware.
Why do you think the way they detect has remained a secret? .. because it's so funny watching all the headless chickens running around shooting in the dark and making BS claims about "stealth patches" .. as people have just found out.. those mean nothing at all.
Workaround for live account ban.. errrmmm.. I smell that same old smell here.. once M$ ban a live account for abuse it stays banned... the account has nothing to do with the console,
You're a moron. The cpu-key method allows you to flash the NAND with one from another console, effectively giving your console a new identity. You're using the same console, but it's ID doesn't say that.
And stealth patches DO work. M$ detected the iXtreme behavior, not the stealthed ISOs.
@ZippyDSM:
The save corruption is carried at the profile level. So if you deleted the corrupted profile and transfer a non-corrupted one over, you're ok. I copied my saves from a 20gb to my new 120gb and they work just fine after removing my banned profile. This obviously has to be done on a non-banned console, though se7ensins posted a method allowing you to gain gamerscore points on a banned console.
I be a fail60 noob so correct add in anything you want ^^
So basically the info is ok but using your profile on a a banned system= corruption, you need to redo the profile on a new unit to clean things up, right? (yes I know you just said that my zippy has to ask in a zippy way :P)
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