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MdMa11
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16. April 2010 @ 12:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have an .avi in the following format:

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Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 703 MiB
Duration : 1h 9mn
Overall bit rate : 1 418 Kbps
Writing library : MPlayer

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 1h 9mn
Bit rate : 1 246 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 3:2
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Standard : NTSC
Resolution : 8 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.150
Stream size : 617 MiB (88%)
Writing library : XviD 1.1.2 (UTC 2006-11-01)
The video is jerky, not to an unwatchable point, but enough to annoy me.

I cannot figure out the issue though. Both TV's that I play it on are PAL, but of course are capable of all NTSC formats. Even on my PC (monitor = DELL 2408WFP) it still shows the same problem.

I am also under the assumption that both my TV's are not 3:2 capable... could this be the culprit? Could my monitor not be capable of this also?

Might it be the way it was encoded?

If so, what program would I use to re-encode?

what am I to do.. if it was me and not you
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16. April 2010 @ 14:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If it shows a problem on the PC monitor then perhaps there's a file problem.

Why don't you post a small section so that we can take a look.
Another option would be to open it in Virtualdub and using the right arrow key,
step through it a frame at a time. Describe what you see. Unnatural jumps from
frame to frame or duplicate frames are things to look out for.
MdMa11
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16. April 2010 @ 22:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by davexnet:
If it shows a problem on the PC monitor then perhaps there's a file problem.

Why don't you post a small section so that we can take a look.
Another option would be to open it in Virtualdub and using the right arrow key,
step through it a frame at a time. Describe what you see. Unnatural jumps from
frame to frame or duplicate frames are things to look out for.
Well, opening the video file in VirtualDub gave an initial error of:

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AVI: Stream 1 (audio) has a non-zero start position of 834 samples (+42
ms). VirtualDub does not currently support a non-zero start time and the
stream will be interpreted as starting from zero.
I then went frame by frame to see if, as you said, there are any unnatural jumps or duplicate frames, and from what I can see, no, but then again it could be my lack of knowledge on this subject.

Which program can I use to grab a small section of the .avi and post here for you?

what am I to do.. if it was me and not you
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16. April 2010 @ 23:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Virtualdub, of course. Open your file and
set "audio" and "video" (at the top) to direct stream
copy.
Depress the left shift key and drag the pointer to an appropriate section
that shows the problem. Keeping the shift key depressed ensures that you stop on a key
frame, which is what you want.

Use the start selection button to start the cut (button at the bottom 2nd from
the right). Then drag the pointer a little bit further (perhaps 3 or 4 minutes?)
and use the end selection button, last on the right .

When the selection is made, go to file/save as avi, and it will spin off that small
section. Post it to one of the file hosting sites.
http://www.mediafire.com/, for example. When it's uploaded copy and paste the
download URL in here and we'll take a look.
MdMa11
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17. April 2010 @ 03:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay here is the proper file starting and ending on key frames...

I was confused with the use of "depress", which I would say as press and hold.

what am I to do.. if it was me and not you

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17. April 2010 @ 04:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You didn't say where the file came from, but somewhere in its history it's been
poorly converted and some frames have been dropped - this causes the jerkiness.

Regarding the usage of depress, see item 2a :
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/depress

Are you an English Teacher ?
MdMa11
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17. April 2010 @ 06:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by davexnet:
You didn't say where the file came from, but somewhere in its history it's been
poorly converted and some frames have been dropped - this causes the jerkiness.

Regarding the usage of depress, see item 2a :
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/depress

Are you an English Teacher ?
LoL.. English teacher, far from it.

I appreciate the link; I don't know why, but I always thought the word depress was used for something that was pressed and then released.

On the topic of the dropped frames, any way to fill them in?

what am I to do.. if it was me and not you

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 17. April 2010 @ 06:28

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17. April 2010 @ 16:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The situation may be irretrievable, but it's possible the Avisynth wizards
at videohelp.com may be able to assist.
A lot of those guys hang out in the "video conversions" forum -

Give it try .
MdMa11
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18. April 2010 @ 06:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by davexnet:
The situation may be irretrievable, but it's possible the Avisynth wizards
at videohelp.com may be able to assist.
A lot of those guys hang out in the "video conversions" forum -

Give it try .
After speaking with someone over at videohelp, it is as you thought, "irretrievable".

I appreciated your help Dave.

what am I to do.. if it was me and not you
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18. April 2010 @ 14:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You're welcome.
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