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Already lost 3 DL-DVD, incompatibility error, need help please!
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Trinket
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17. October 2009 @ 10:17 |
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Hello,
I've been burning on Memorex DVD-R DL for awhile now, and just bought a new pack of 25. These are the same brand I've always used, but now i get a incompatibility error about a third of the way into burning everytime. I'm using Imgburn to burn my discs.
Here's the log of the burn.
I 09:33:16 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!
I 09:33:16 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition (6.0, Build 6000)
I 09:33:16 Total Physical Memory: 2,086,336 KB - Available: 817,892 KB
W 09:33:16 SPTD can have a detrimental effect on drive performance.
I 09:33:16 Initialising SPTI...
I 09:33:16 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 09:33:16 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM!
I 09:34:21 Operation Started!
I 09:34:21 Source File: C:\Users\Staples\Downloads\Eternal_Sonata_NTSC_XBOX360-CCCLX\ccclx-etsona.dvd
I 09:34:21 Source File Sectors: 3,697,696 (MODE1/2048)
I 09:34:21 Source File Size: 7,572,881,408 bytes
I 09:34:21 Source File Volume Identifier: XGD2DVD_NTSC
I 09:34:21 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 34672923
I 09:34:22 Source File Implementation Identifier: Sonic Scenarist 3.1
I 09:34:22 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 09:34:22 Destination Device: [0:0:0] MATSHITA ram.cfm" class="forum_link" target="_blank">DVD-RAM UJ-850S 1.05 (E:) (ATA)
I 09:34:22 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-S04-66) (Speeds: 2.4x)
I 09:34:22 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 09:34:22 Write Mode: DVD
I 09:34:22 Write Type: DAO
I 09:34:22 Write Speed: 2x
I 09:34:22 Link Size: Auto
I 09:34:22 Lock Volume: Yes
I 09:34:22 Test Mode: No
I 09:34:22 OPC: No
I 09:34:22 BURN-Proof: Enabled
W 09:34:22 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 2,770 KB/s (2x), Got: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x)
I 09:34:22 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760
I 09:34:22 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
I 09:34:58 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!
I 09:34:58 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 09:35:00 Writing LeadIn...
I 09:35:02 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3697695)
I 09:35:02 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3697695)
I 09:35:02 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1913759)
W 09:53:35 Failed to Write Sectors 1751424 - 1751455 - Reason: No Write Current
W 09:53:35 Retrying (1 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (2 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (3 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (4 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (5 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (6 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (7 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (8 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (9 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (10 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (11 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (12 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (13 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (14 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (15 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (16 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (17 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (18 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (19 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:36 Retrying (20 of 20)...
W 09:53:36 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:53:50 Retrying (21)...
W 09:53:50 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:55:11 Retrying (22)...
W 09:55:11 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
E 09:55:14 Failed to Write Sectors 1751424 - 1751455 - Reason: No Write Current
I 09:55:15 Synchronising Cache...
I 09:55:28 Closing Track...
W 09:55:28 Close Track Failed! - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:55:28 Retrying (1 of 3)...
W 09:55:28 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:55:28 Retrying (2 of 3)...
W 09:55:28 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:55:28 Retrying (3 of 3)...
W 09:55:28 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
E 09:55:34 Close Track Failed! - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
I 09:55:34 Finalising Disc...
W 09:55:34 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:55:34 Retrying (1 of 3)...
W 09:55:34 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:55:34 Retrying (2 of 3)...
W 09:55:34 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
W 09:55:34 Retrying (3 of 3)...
W 09:55:34 Retry Failed - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
E 09:55:35 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Cannot Write Medium - Incompatible Format
E 09:55:35 Failed to Write Image!
I 09:55:35 Exporting Graph Data...
I 09:55:35 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Staples\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\MATSHITA_DVD-RAM_UJ-850S_1.05_SATURDAY-OCTOBER-17-2009_9-34_AM_RITEK-S04-66_2x.ibg
I 09:55:35 Export Successfully Completed!
E 09:55:35 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:21:13
I 09:55:35 Average Write Rate: 2,890 KB/s (2.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,594 KB/s (2.6x)
Any thoughts?
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17. October 2009 @ 16:04 |
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Quote:
Let me just start by saying that if you're going to burn to double layer discs, do yourself a favour and buy Verbatim DVD+R DL ones! The alternatives might look better value but they're no way near as good as the Verbatim discs and you could quite easily end up throwing half of them away due to failed burns. As with most things in this world, you get what you pay for.
That's by that Lightning UK! (the creator of ImgBurn) from his guide to burning DL disks.
http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=4643
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17. October 2009 @ 21:17 |
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I start to have problems with Memorex Brand (DVD+R, DVD+R DL and DVD-RW) since 2 months ago. My solution was to up-grade my Media Quality and I change Brands: today I use JVC and Verbatim "NO Problems"
Live Free or Die.
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Trinket
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18. October 2009 @ 10:35 |
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it's just really funny because I had a 100% success rate before, now it won't burn a single disc, something had to have changed.
There must be a better solution then throwing away all my memorex dvd-dl and purchasing the more than 3x expensive Verbatim dvd-dl.
Wierd thing is a used even cheaper nexxtech dvd dl and they burned but the output was terrible.
Could it just be a conflict between the dvd-dl brand and the burner.
anybody experience problems with matshita 850?
are their any settings that could cause disc error?
Could updating drivers fix this problem or maybe using another burning program?
I am just really surprised since i never had problems before.
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18. October 2009 @ 11:58 |
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Trinket:
I been Used Memorex for about 2 or 3 years with out any problems, exept the "Technical's problems that is normal".
I think the problem was 'cos they maybe change the Factory and, or Country where they are made today or the Quality Control Personal or something else......the thing is that I end up in your situation.
Change the Media to others comparable brands maybe the Solution, but you should up-grade your Media for a better quality.
Those disk you have now do not gonna work in your PC not matter what you do (I done that already). What you can do is maybe save them and try to used them on another PC or for other diff proyects.
Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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Trinket
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18. October 2009 @ 15:03 |
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Hmmm...
i think i'll try on another pc, hence another burner, and see if i can get better results
thanks alot for the input so far..
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18. October 2009 @ 17:35 |
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I Say:
"What you can do is maybe save them and try to used them on another PC or for other diff proyects"
Becouse, maybe some of them are ok to burn into it. Do not know the %'s. But I also try the SONY made in Mexico, and out of 25 DVD+R only one come out burn ok.
Today using better Media Quality Blank Disk's and using the same PC, ('cos I have 3 Laptop's) and make use of the same programs settings, etc. I have great results and no issues.
Good Luck Trinket.
Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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JoeRyan
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19. October 2009 @ 09:20 |
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The problem is that the Memorex DVD+R DL you are now using are Ritek 8X DL discs, which means they are manufactured by the inverse stack method. Your drive does not recognize the IS discs because the recording layer appears upside down to it. There are two solutions: 1) buy a new, external DVD+R DL drive suited to IS discs (It would not be a Matsushita drive because they are typically very limited in their support of non-Japanese brands of media); or 2) switch to Verbatim only and hope they don't make the move to IS production (when Verbatim DL prices plummet--they've made the switch because IS is a far less expensive method of production as well as more likely to produce consistently good results).
The issue is not one of disc quality but of incompatibility of formats. That is what the message "incompatible format" is trying to tell you.
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Trinket
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19. October 2009 @ 15:24 |
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Thanks alot Joeryan for that information, that makes alot of sense, any ideas as to which type of drive can support disc made by the inverse stack method. Since this seems to be a new way of making DL dvd a more recent burner would probably do the trick?
i got a new asus g50 recently i have to check which burner i have, and see if it'll burn off that.
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JoeRyan
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19. October 2009 @ 17:31 |
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In my experience, Matsushita and Toshiba were two brands that had very limited support for newer MID (manufacturer identification) codes on DVD discs, particularly for those manufactured in Taiwan and India. Lite-on, Plextor, Pioneer, NEC, and Hitachi-LG were usually either very good out of the box or very supportive with issuing firmware updates once incompatibilities were pointed out to them. There are many other brands--Sony, HP, Memorex, Mad Dog, etc.--whose drives are actually manufactured by the names mentioned above. Unfortunately, Matsushita and Toshiba are the two most popular OEM drives found in laptops; and that causes a multitude of problems for consumers and the disc manufacturers whose discs are not supported but who get the blame for "poor quality" when laptop recordings don't work.
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Trinket
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25. October 2009 @ 21:42 |
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Okay so I attempted to burn using a RITEK burner, but it ultimately failed again. The error was much different this time though.
Here:
I 21:12:14 ImgBurn Version 2.5.0.0 started!
I 21:12:14 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium x64 Edition (6.0, Build 6001 : Service Pack 1)
I 21:12:14 Total Physical Memory: 4,192,556 KB - Available: 2,327,896 KB
I 21:12:14 Initialising SPTI...
I 21:12:14 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 21:12:14 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 21:22:30 Operation Started!
I 21:22:30 Source File: C:\Users\G50VT\Desktop\Dead_Or_Alive_Xtreme_2_NTSC_XBOX360-VORTEX\vortex-doax2.dvd
I 21:22:30 Source File Sectors: 3,697,696 (MODE1/2048)
I 21:22:30 Source File Size: 7,572,881,408 bytes
I 21:22:30 Source File Volume Identifier: XBOX360
I 21:22:30 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 33479a57
I 21:22:30 Source File Implementation Identifier: Daikin U.S. Comtec Lab
I 21:22:30 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 21:22:30 Destination Device: [0:1:0] HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T50N RR07 (E:) (ATAPI)
I 21:22:30 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-S04-66) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x)
I 21:22:30 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 21:22:30 Write Mode: DVD
I 21:22:30 Write Type: DAO
I 21:22:30 Write Speed: 1x
I 21:22:30 Link Size: Auto
I 21:22:30 Lock Volume: Yes
I 21:22:30 Test Mode: No
I 21:22:30 OPC: No
I 21:22:30 BURN-Proof: Enabled
W 21:22:30 Write Speed Miscompare! - Wanted: 1,385 KB/s (1x), Got: 8,310 KB/s (6x)
I 21:22:30 Book Type Setting: N/A
I 21:22:30 User Specified L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760
I 21:23:38 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!
I 21:23:38 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 21:23:39 Writing LeadIn...
I 21:23:44 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3697695)
I 21:23:44 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3697695)
I 21:23:44 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1913759)
W 21:31:07 Failed to Write Sectors 700128 - 700159 - Reason: Unknown (Internal Target Failure) (ASC: 0x44, ASCQ: 0x90)
W 21:31:07 Retrying (1 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (2 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (3 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (4 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (5 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (6 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (7 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (8 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (9 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (10 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (11 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (12 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (13 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (14 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (15 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (16 of 20)...
W 21:31:07 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:07 Retrying (17 of 20)...
W 21:31:08 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:08 Retrying (18 of 20)...
W 21:31:08 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:08 Retrying (19 of 20)...
W 21:31:08 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 21:31:08 Retrying (20 of 20)...
W 21:31:08 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
E 21:35:17 Failed to Write Sectors 700128 - 700159 - Reason: Unknown (Internal Target Failure) (ASC: 0x44, ASCQ: 0x90)
E 21:35:17 Next Writable Address: 699600
I 21:35:17 Synchronising Cache...
W 21:35:28 User opted to skip the 'Close Track/Session/Disc' functions.
E 21:35:28 Failed to Write Image!
I 21:35:39 Exporting Graph Data...
I 21:35:39 Graph Data File: C:\Users\G50VT\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GSA-T50N_RR07_OCTOBER-25-09_9-22_PM_RITEK-S04-66_1x.ibg
I 21:35:39 Export Successfully Completed!
E 21:35:39 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:12:57
I 21:35:39 Average Write Rate: 2,020 KB/s (1.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,378 KB/s (2.4x)
What could be the cause of this error?
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scum101
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25. October 2009 @ 23:25 |
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Trinket
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26. October 2009 @ 07:31 |
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nevermind i fixed above error everything works fine now!
thanks for the help!
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26. October 2009 @ 13:26 |
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@ trinket
Let us Know how you Fixed it, Maybe you Could Help Others.
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Trinket
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26. October 2009 @ 14:06 |
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Sure Berryone, I simply ran the microsoft automated troubleshooting service, from there i went to hardware and sound and then "My cd or dvd drive cannot read or write media"
The first laptop which was a matsushita, which had no luck at all with the media i was using, but when i switched to my ritek drive, i realized i had some sort of corrupt file, so i repaired it with microsoft ATS.
Now it works like a charm.
I want to thank everybody again for their support.
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