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abrogard
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2. July 2009 @ 06:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've been ripping all my kid's movies (and my own but they've got many more than me) onto my hard drive for backup with DVD Decrypter for a long time now.

I suddenly realise that they're taking far too much space. If I kept the movies in .AVI format I'd be better off.

But how to get from those directories of .VOBs etc. that DVDDecrypt makes to an .AVI file?

regards,

ab :)
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2. July 2009 @ 07:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Use dvdfab (freeware) to rip, as newer movies have encryption that dvd decrypter is unable to handle.

You can use autogk to convert your dvd files to avi.

http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/...sing_autogk.cfm

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2. July 2009 @ 08:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know why nobody has ever ported acidrip over to doze.. oh wait.. yes I do XD
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2. July 2009 @ 09:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm also an AutoGK fiend, i convert my DVD's to 1401MB XviD's (even figures result in split output files hence the 1401MB). There are better and more efficient ways (and smaller, better quality files too) but i like simple methods and usually get stuck in my ways until things no longer work :)



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3. July 2009 @ 15:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank you, guys. I've downloaded autogk and I'll get into it.

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3. July 2009 @ 16:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by creaky:
I'm also an AutoGK fiend... but i like simple methods and usually get stuck in my ways until things no longer work :)

LOL creaky, I had gotten out of the habit of using AutoGK and favored discs for backups. As my collection has grown and my home has become increasingly networked, I find myself going back to GK the last few months for the ease of watching anything anywhere.
What more efficient ways do you speak? H.264 codec???

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3. July 2009 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah i think it's H264. I'll try and find a link, i haven't experimented with it myself, i've spent literally weeks ripping and converting many hundreds of movies, i can't face doing that again (and i haven't even seen the electric bill for those weeks of 24/7 encodes yet!!). I just use 1401MB and xvid under AutoGK personally.

edit- here you go ~ http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/763984/4626054



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3. July 2009 @ 17:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank you, kind sir...

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3. July 2009 @ 17:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No worries, keep us posted.
I do wish i had stuck to 700MB now, all my drives are close to being full now, i've moved a lot of stuff around and shoehorned stuff in all over the shop, it's a shame i picked 1401MB as i would have sooooo much free space left for more movies :)



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3. July 2009 @ 23:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well thanks for the input, guys. I took your advice and I downloaded installed and ran autogk.

I got an avi out of it, too. Media Player Classic wouldn't play it. It thought it was playing something, it didn't complain, but there was no picture and no sound.

But VLC media player played it alright, so I guess that's fine.

BUT, the first one I tried had MPC's ( Multiple Program Chains I discovered from autogk's help file ) and autogk doesn't handle those.

The second one was the one I mentioned. And then the third one I tried had MPC's too.

This is no good. I'd like something that'll work every time.

Is there anything else anyone can suggest?

regards,

ab :)
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4. July 2009 @ 00:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I wonder if handbrake would work for those MPC's.

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4. July 2009 @ 01:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Alltoavi should work too (free): http://alltoavi.sourceforge.net/ Probably have to join the vob's containing the movie with something like VobMerge or the avi's after with AviMux_Gui or whatever but either only take a minute (free too). Edit: never heard of this so could be junk or just what you need, WinX DVD Ripper free for one day: http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/

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5. July 2009 @ 03:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the input, everyone. I'm working on it. Currently waiting for handbrake to finish processing a directory of vobs and such - i.e. a dir created by dvddecrypt. Handbrake didn't seem to worry about program chains at all.

I tried alltoavi and had a problem - it couldn't ascertain the size of one vob in the set, it said, so quit on me.

So I got Vobmerge and tried the merging trick. Finally found which vob to begin with and now have a single big vob which I'm planning to feed into alltoavi after handbrake has done it's thing.

Nero Show Time plays that single big vob okay, so I reckon its alright.

I will report for the sake of the thread which prog or set of progs I finish up solving my problem with.

Handbrake kinda looks like the best thing to me - I really like these open source things - but it is really slow. I wonder if the other things would be as slow?

Anyway... on with the testing...

thanks again..

ab :)
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5. July 2009 @ 06:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Update:

Handbrake spent hours on the job, reported a successful conclusion and failed to create a file. Or I can't find one anyway.

I fed it the directory.

So I just fed the single big merged vob to videotoavi. It took the 5gig file and turned out a 5meg file ! It only processed the first vob.

I tried to give it the directory but the fifth vob it complains about it can't find the size of it...

So now I'm trying handbrake again....


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5. July 2009 @ 07:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've never used Handbrake (at least i don't think i have!), can't comment on it, good or bad. Have you tried AutoGK yet ?, it's dead easy..



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Are you merging just the vob's containing the movie, should be pretty easy to spot, usually something like VTS 1_01, VTS 1_02 and so on. They'll be .99 G in size with a final vob of whatever size. I have had problem's in the past with a merged vob when the menu or something was included and only the first vob was converted (think it was VTS 1_00). Like said, AutoGK should do the job and is easy to use, just need's some kind of progression bar but the log show's what's happening. Almost sound's like a codec issue if MPC can't play it. Never used HandBrake so can't say but hear good thing's of it, that doesn't help much though if neither it nor AutoGK are working. To anyone, doesn't DVDFab Platinum create an avi or is the trial restricted (not free) or am I thinking of ImToo DVD Ripper Platinum?

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5. July 2009 @ 13:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mistycat:
To anyone, doesn't DVDFab Platinum create an avi or is the trial restricted (not free)

I do not use it but have read around here somewhere that its a bit slower and not as good quality. As I said it is not from experience so take it for what its worth.
Interestingly enough the best DVD encoder DVD-RB has mobile output options in the pro edition but the few settings I have tried also took longer with OK quality but still not GK standards.

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5. July 2009 @ 14:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abrogard:
I've been ripping all my kid's movies (and my own but they've got many more than me) onto my hard drive for backup with DVD Decrypter for a long time now.

I suddenly realise that they're taking far too much space. If I kept the movies in .AVI format I'd be better off.

But how to get from those directories of .VOBs etc. that DVDDecrypt makes to an .AVI file?

regards,

ab :)

Are these rips the complete DVD with menus etc? Or do just have the 'movie only'?

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6. July 2009 @ 02:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They are complete rips, as served up by dvd decrypt.

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6. July 2009 @ 02:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dvdfab Platinum can create an avi file under the "Mobile" option. Mine normally takes a while as I use the double pass option. I still prefer using autogk to convert dvd to avi, as to me it does a far superior job.

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Besides the already mentioned, there's also AviDemux...
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6. July 2009 @ 18:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I used DVDFabPlatinum and it did the job. I've only viewed it on the computer so I'm not sure what the quality is. I suspect it has lost a bit, could that be right? And it would lose even more when I copy back to DVD?

I'd be happy to use AutoGK which generally seems to be considered the best, but I need to get over that Multiple Program Chains problem somehow and I didn't find how to do that, yet.

The .AVI file generated by DVDFabPlatinum can't be played by MPC. It seems to think it is playing it but there's no picture and the sound is a lot of sharp tweets like a flock of sparrows or something.

Missing CODECS someone has said. How do I go about correcting that? It must have been caused by the installation of a video prog of some kind. Quite a hassle isn't it? You keep downloading and installing in order to fix a a problem and the things that you download install their own CODECS and apparently delete or overwrite others, rendering stuff inoperable. Is that what happens?

AGK not playing the MPC was my first and main hassle.

Then VOB 5 of the 6 in the main title being unacceptable to various progs was the next. One the grounds they couldn't 'detect the time' of the VOB.

DVDFabPlatinum has overcome that.
But I'd like to know if there's any VOB fixing software that I could have used to fix that?

The VOBMERGE idea seemed good but the file it created seemed to cause Handbrake and AlltoAvi to malfunction.

Looks like I can carry on using DVDFabPlatinum and ignore all these problems - if the quality is good enough (not, actually, really very critical considering the source material, mainly garishly coloured kids cartoons - but every once in a while a movie of mine that I'd like to keep the quality as good as possible).

But deeper understanding of these probs and fixes for them would be good even if not strictly necessary.

regards,

ab :)
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6. July 2009 @ 18:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abrogard:
I used DVDFabPlatinum and it did the job. I've only viewed it on the computer so I'm not sure what the quality is. I suspect it has lost a bit, could that be right? And it would lose even more when I copy back to DVD?

I'd be happy to use AutoGK which generally seems to be considered the best, but I need to get over that Multiple Program Chains problem somehow and I didn't find how to do that, yet...

Hard to say if it's the best, it certainly is one of the easiest.

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but I need to get over that Multiple Program Chains problem

Seeing as you said you ripped the complete DVD, open it in DVD Shrink and reauthor as 'Movie Only' saving the output uncompressed. Open that IFO in AutoGK and see how it goes.

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Originally posted by abrogard:
Missing CODECS someone has said. How do I go about correcting that? It must have been caused by the installation of a video prog of some kind. Quite a hassle isn't it? You keep downloading and installing in order to fix a a problem and the things that you download install their own CODECS and apparently delete or overwrite others, rendering stuff inoperable. Is that what happens?
For many years the only codecs i've installed are via the K-Lite Mega Codec pack. Before that i had to mess about with different codecs. Moved to K-Lite and have never had to touch or care about a codec again.



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6. July 2009 @ 20:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by creaky:
For many years the only codecs i've installed are via the K-Lite Mega Codec pack. Before that i had to mess about with different codecs. Moved to K-Lite and have never had to touch or care about a codec again.

Agreed +1

 
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