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9. November 2010 @ 18:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just wondering if anyone knows if it's possible to add a USB digital terrestrial dongle to pick up the Irish tv stations? Also, can it be integrated in to the EPG?

I understand it can be done with a DM 8000.

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9. November 2010 @ 21:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
nelly, you understand wrong. please explain what you consider possible. i assume you are talking about dm800s as compared to dm800c
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9. November 2010 @ 22:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have never heard of a 'DTT Dongle'?

Please, please, please use the search box at top right of site before asking a question that has already been answered.

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10. November 2010 @ 03:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by fintannl:
nelly, you understand wrong. please explain what you consider possible. i assume you are talking about dm800s as compared to dm800c
Yes Fintanni. I have a dm800s HD. I have heard the dm8000, which can have more than one tuner, can pick up digital terrestrial broadcasts and show on an integrated programme guide.
My question is, if I added something like this http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320498773576&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_5602wt_905 (an external digital terrestrial tuner with USB connection) would I be able to do the same?

If this worked, which I'm beginning to doubt, you could get the UK sat channels and the Irish channels.

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10. November 2010 @ 04:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Even if it did work, you aint gonna get anything on it, DVB T in Ire is MMDS, what ya have there is a T Tuner alrite, but wont unscramble anything

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10. November 2010 @ 05:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by nellymcd:
Originally posted by fintannl:
nelly, you understand wrong. please explain what you consider possible. i assume you are talking about dm800s as compared to dm800c
Yes Fintanni. I have a dm800s HD. I have heard the dm8000, which can have more than one tuner, can pick up digital terrestrial broadcasts and show on an integrated programme guide.
My question is, if I added something like this http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320498773576&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_5602wt_905 (an external digital terrestrial tuner with USB connection) would I be able to do the same?

If this worked, which I'm beginning to doubt, you could get the UK sat channels and the Irish channels.
Saorsat is the satellite version of the Irish DTT service & is due to go on air early 2011, this makes things easier for satellite box users,...although it will be on a diffrent satellite 9deg east & sky being on 28.2deg east.

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10. November 2010 @ 05:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lenny123:
Originally posted by nellymcd:
Originally posted by fintannl:
nelly, you understand wrong. please explain what you consider possible. i assume you are talking about dm800s as compared to dm800c
Yes Fintanni. I have a dm800s HD. I have heard the dm8000, which can have more than one tuner, can pick up digital terrestrial broadcasts and show on an integrated programme guide.
My question is, if I added something like this http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320498773576&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_5602wt_905 (an external digital terrestrial tuner with USB connection) would I be able to do the same?

If this worked, which I'm beginning to doubt, you could get the UK sat channels and the Irish channels.
Saorsat is the satellite version of the Irish DTT service & is due to go on air early 2011, this makes things easier for satellite box users,...although it will be on a diffrent satellite 9deg east & sky being on 28.2deg east.
Howya Lenny hows things mate,

Picked up DTT on my TV, can get the EPG and Text and Radio chans (they work no prob), but the signal aint strong enough for actual chans,

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10. November 2010 @ 05:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Howya Lenny hows things mate,

Picked up DTT on my TV, can get the EPG and Text and Radio chans (they work no prob), but the signal aint strong enough for actual chans,
Ah so so,..I'm busy building up stocks of dried & tinned food for the coming economic implosion ;-(
http://www.saortv.com/shop/index.php have boxes that do both the DTT & Satellite version of the Irish digital TV service, so your picking up everything except a picture ? some TV's have intergrated digital tuners but they need to be the mpeg4 standard unlike the mpeg2 uk freeview/freesat ready tv's.

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10. November 2010 @ 06:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lenny123:
Howya Lenny hows things mate,

Picked up DTT on my TV, can get the EPG and Text and Radio chans (they work no prob), but the signal aint strong enough for actual chans,
Ah so so,..I'm busy building up stocks of dried & tinned food for the coming economic implosion ;-(
http://www.saortv.com/shop/index.php have boxes that do both the DTT & Satellite version of the Irish digital TV service, so your picking up everything except a picture ? some TV's have intergrated digital tuners but they need to be the mpeg4 standard unlike the mpeg2 uk freeview/freesat ready tv's.
Thanks lads. It appears the answer is no, not in the short term anyway?
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10. November 2010 @ 07:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
not that I can see Nelly, not in Ire anyways


@ Lenny, yeah picking the above up alright, thats without an aerial plugged in mind, checked the signal level on CH54, its very very low, so was thinking a powered aerial in the back may do the trick, the TV is a LG6100 Scarlet, bought down here about a year n bit, nearly sure its MPEG4, could be wrong though, it has a hybrid tuner for analogue TV and DVB-T, when a chan comes on, its flashs MPEG on the screen, but I am thinking its more to do with signal.

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10. November 2010 @ 20:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by nellymcd:
Just wondering if anyone knows if it's possible to add a USB digital terrestrial dongle to pick up the Irish tv stations? Also, can it be integrated in to the EPG?

I understand it can be done with a DM 8000.
Yes it can be done on the Dm800 allright.
The Dream Elite Black Hole image supports the use of a DTT USB dongle .
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10. November 2010 @ 21:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
fano, explain how. always willing to learn. thanks
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11. November 2010 @ 05:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Fano:


Yes it can be done on the Dm800 allright.
The Dream Elite Black Hole image supports the use of a DTT USB dongle .
a yes,..do tell,...also before anyone goes out & buys one of these dongles take note that the normal DTT USB recievers available for ?10 - ?15 won't pickup the irish DTT channels as these are for the british market where mpeg2 compression is used unlike Ireland who use mpeg4. see here for more info

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11. November 2010 @ 09:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lenny123:
Originally posted by Fano:


Yes it can be done on the Dm800 allright.
The Dream Elite Black Hole image supports the use of a DTT USB dongle .
a yes,..do tell,...

Did a bit of research & yes it does seem to work,..found this thread which tells all.

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11. November 2010 @ 10:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lenny123:

a yes,..do tell,...also before anyone goes out & buys one of these dongles take note that the normal DTT USB recievers available for ?10 - ?15 won't pickup the irish DTT channels as these are for the british market where mpeg2 compression is used unlike Ireland who use mpeg4. see here for more info
That is not correct.
The decoding of the signal is done in software ,not hardware so a standard DVB-T usb tuner will do the job.
The DM800 can decode Mpeg 4 signals ,most HD content is Mpeg4.
To get it working on the DM800 ,you need the Dream Elite Black Hole image which contains drivers for a USB DTT stick .
You install the drivers,and can configure it in the system setup.
Obviously you need a DTT signal to connect into the USB tuner so you will need a UHF aerial that covers the required spectrum for your area.

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nellymcd
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11. November 2010 @ 11:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Fano:
Originally posted by lenny123:

a yes,..do tell,...also before anyone goes out & buys one of these dongles take note that the normal DTT USB recievers available for €10 - €15 won't pickup the irish DTT channels as these are for the british market where mpeg2 compression is used unlike Ireland who use mpeg4. see here for more info
That is not correct.
The decoding of the signal is done in software ,not hardware so a standard DVB-T usb tuner will do the job.
The DM800 can decode Mpeg 4 signals ,most HD content is Mpeg4.
To get it working on the DM800 ,you need the Dream Elite Black Hole image which contains drivers for a USB DTT stick .
You install the drivers,and can configure it in the system setup.
Obviously you need a DTT signal to connect into the USB tuner so you will need a UHF aerial that covers the required spectrum for your area.
That's great news. Do the channels appear along with the regular sat EPG?
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11. November 2010 @ 11:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by nellymcd:
Originally posted by Fano:
Originally posted by lenny123:

a yes,..do tell,...also before anyone goes out & buys one of these dongles take note that the normal DTT USB recievers available for €10 - €15 won't pickup the irish DTT channels as these are for the british market where mpeg2 compression is used unlike Ireland who use mpeg4. see here for more info
That is not correct.
The decoding of the signal is done in software ,not hardware so a standard DVB-T usb tuner will do the job.
The DM800 can decode Mpeg 4 signals ,most HD content is Mpeg4.
To get it working on the DM800 ,you need the Dream Elite Black Hole image which contains drivers for a USB DTT stick .
You install the drivers,and can configure it in the system setup.
Obviously you need a DTT signal to connect into the USB tuner so you will need a UHF aerial that covers the required spectrum for your area.
That's great news. Do the channels appear along with the regular sat EPG?
Yes ,they can be put in the same bouquets as satellite channels .
The Dream Elite image has drivers for ~20 specific USB tuner models,mostly Hauppage,Avermedia,Asus so make sure you buy one that is compatible.
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11. November 2010 @ 11:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Fano:
Originally posted by nellymcd:
Originally posted by Fano:
Originally posted by lenny123:

a yes,..do tell,...also before anyone goes out & buys one of these dongles take note that the normal DTT USB recievers available for €10 - €15 won't pickup the irish DTT channels as these are for the british market where mpeg2 compression is used unlike Ireland who use mpeg4. see here for more info
That is not correct.
The decoding of the signal is done in software ,not hardware so a standard DVB-T usb tuner will do the job.
The DM800 can decode Mpeg 4 signals ,most HD content is Mpeg4.
To get it working on the DM800 ,you need the Dream Elite Black Hole image which contains drivers for a USB DTT stick .
You install the drivers,and can configure it in the system setup.
Obviously you need a DTT signal to connect into the USB tuner so you will need a UHF aerial that covers the required spectrum for your area.
That's great news. Do the channels appear along with the regular sat EPG?
Yes ,they can be put in the same bouquets as satellite channels .
The Dream Elite image has drivers for ~20 specific USB tuner models,mostly Hauppage,Avermedia,Asus so make sure you buy one that is compatible.
Thanks!
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11. November 2010 @ 15:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah,...discovered that after a few hours googling,..although I use dreamelite BH but it's ver 1.0 which does not have the DTT usb function,..my image is for bootloader 72 & so far I can't find a dreamelite BH image which meets my needs,...any ideas ?? is it possible to just install the drivers from the addons or download section within the dreambox maybe ???

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12. November 2010 @ 08:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lenny123:
yeah,...discovered that after a few hours googling,..although I use dreamelite BH but it's ver 1.0 which does not have the DTT usb function,..my image is for bootloader 72 & so far I can't find a dreamelite BH image which meets my needs,...any ideas ?? is it possible to just install the drivers from the addons or download section within the dreambox maybe ???
Sorry Lenny not sure if it will work on an image that old.
I am using Dream Elite BH Phoenix ,76c,which has an addon server for downloading the necessary drivers .Its limited to about 20 different USB tuners .
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12. November 2010 @ 14:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
www.8a8f8.com. works back to bootloader 69 on hauppage. just get the latest dream elite image off the site for your boot loader version
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12. November 2010 @ 15:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by fintannl:
www.8a8f8.com. works back to bootloader 69 on hauppage. just get the latest dream elite image off the site for your boot loader version
Yeah,..know about 8a8f8.com but all the different nationalities chipping in with advise in broken english can be very confusing, anyway I found a working image (below)for bootloader #72,..works a treat & has the USB TV stick option,..just flashed it using IE & the box IP.
http://rapidshare.com/files/430400033/DreamEliteBH_DM800_130A-ramiMAHER.rar

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it does what it does and very well. i have taken images from this site for years. i will not qualify how good this site is. its just simply the best dreambox site for clones i have used. if you do not agree no issue
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Originally posted by fintannl:
it does what it does and very well. i have taken images from this site for years. i will not qualify how good this site is. its just simply the best dreambox site for clones i have used. if you do not agree no issue
I aggre, I aggre,..I even got my first 800 through yang nearly 1.5yrs ago,...just takes a bit of time re-reading some posts,..some posters start their posts by appearing to say that something does not work but by the end of the post they are actually saying the opposite,..just a language problem I guess.

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14. November 2010 @ 12:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just reading above: Situation seems to be if you can't beat them confuse them. Anyone know if the kryptview A750 and A780 are still redundant in Ireland?

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