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28. November 2009 @ 10:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's the freq for the HD channels on 28.2deg
http://www.lyngsat.com/hd/28east.html

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28. November 2009 @ 10:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So I should do a manual scan using the frequency range in the link?
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28. November 2009 @ 10:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by niallo32:
So I should do a manual scan using the frequency range in the link?
yes,....don't forget the FEC & v/h settings.....ie:
Sky Sports HD 1 settings are freq 11798 H SR=29500 FEC = 3/4

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28. November 2009 @ 12:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
From another forum,..."Many clone users have this issue - HD channels won't work until the tuner warms up. There is a long discussion on this on 8a8f8. Some suggest to replace the capacitor C1 on the tuner board (one guy reported that he made 4 boxes to work after this fix). I ordered C1 (1000uF 6.3V) and should be getting it on monday. I will let you know if it helped.

BTW - this issue concerns ONLY DVB-S2 channels, DVB-S HD channels like BBC HD work fine."

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28. November 2009 @ 14:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lenny123:
From another forum,..."Many clone users have this issue - HD channels won't work until the tuner warms up. There is a long discussion on this on 8a8f8. Some suggest to replace the capacitor C1 on the tuner board (one guy reported that he made 4 boxes to work after this fix). I ordered C1 (1000uF 6.3V) and should be getting it on monday. I will let you know if it helped.

BTW - this issue concerns ONLY DVB-S2 channels, DVB-S HD channels like BBC HD work fine."

you could go for a new tuner ! others owners with ongoing tuner problems have got new alps dvb-s2 tuners here, http://www.bsc-sat.de/cgi-bin/shop.dll?S...82&AnbieterID=1

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28. November 2009 @ 17:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lenny123:
Originally posted by niallo32:
So I should do a manual scan using the frequency range in the link?
yes,....don't forget the FEC & v/h settings.....ie:
Sky Sports HD 1 settings are freq 11798 H SR=29500 FEC = 3/4
I've tried the scan with a variety of settings, but a sample one below:

Tuner: Tuner A: .....(DVB-S2)
Type: Single TP
Sys: DVB-S2
Satellite: Astra 28.2
Freq: 11720
Inversion: Auto
Sy Rt: 29500
Polarity: Horizontal
FEC: 3/4
Net Scan: No
Clear b4 Scan: No
Only Free Scan: No

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It continually finds 0 services - it always found all the HD Channels before

If I can't resolve, I may have to look at the two alternative solutions you posted.
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29. November 2009 @ 08:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
why not check that the feed it ok by trying another box first, then do a factory reset on your box and reset back up and then install a channel list with all the channels already scanned with the correct frequencies. You can usually download a settings list from the remote.
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2. December 2009 @ 03:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm gradually getting some of the HD channels through an automatic scan. Thanks for the assistance.

I've put a 160Gb hard drive in and that's initialised and recording fine.

I have two problems with it:

1. If I'm recording a movie on one channel and switch to another channel, I get an error 'No free tuner' - I thought I could watch other channels?

2. The options in the manual for recording through EPG don't seem to work - can anyone suggest any easy way?
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2. December 2009 @ 05:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by niallo32:
I'm gradually getting some of the HD channels through an automatic scan. Thanks for the assistance.

I've put a 160Gb hard drive in and that's initialised and recording fine.

I have two problems with it:

1. If I'm recording a movie on one channel and switch to another channel, I get an error 'No free tuner' - I thought I could watch other channels?

2. The options in the manual for recording through EPG don't seem to work - can anyone suggest any easy way?

Your getting more HD channels, do you find the box picks up more HiDef if you let it heat up for 30mins or more, or is it better to scan from cold ?...the 800 has only 1 tuner so you can't watch one channel & record another,...the 8000 has two tuners but it's expencive & the (china) clone version not available until 2010.

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2. December 2009 @ 05:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by lenny123:
Originally posted by niallo32:
I'm gradually getting some of the HD channels through an automatic scan. Thanks for the assistance.

I've put a 160Gb hard drive in and that's initialised and recording fine.

I have two problems with it:

1. If I'm recording a movie on one channel and switch to another channel, I get an error 'No free tuner' - I thought I could watch other channels?

2. The options in the manual for recording through EPG don't seem to work - can anyone suggest any easy way?

Your getting more HD channels, do you find the box picks up more HiDef if you let it heat up for 30mins or more, or is it better to scan from cold ?...the 800 has only 1 tuner so you can't watch one channel & record another,...the 8000 has two tuners but it's expencive & the (china) clone version not available until 2010.
I did a scan yesterday evening after plugging in the hard drive - say about ten minutes after being powered on - so I guess it was still cold - I've got a couple of the Movie channels in HD and a few more are 'half listed' in the EPG - by half listed I mean I can see the programme details in the Web EPG, but not the channel title.

That makes sense about the one tuner alright!

Whats the best way to record so? Enter in a start and end time by pressing the Red button and leave it on the channel, or use EPG?
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2. December 2009 @ 06:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by niallo32:
Originally posted by lenny123:
Originally posted by niallo32:
I'm gradually getting some of the HD channels through an automatic scan. Thanks for the assistance.

I've put a 160Gb hard drive in and that's initialised and recording fine.

I have two problems with it:

1. If I'm recording a movie on one channel and switch to another channel, I get an error 'No free tuner' - I thought I could watch other channels?

2. The options in the manual for recording through EPG don't seem to work - can anyone suggest any easy way?

Your getting more HD channels, do you find the box picks up more HiDef if you let it heat up for 30mins or more, or is it better to scan from cold ?...the 800 has only 1 tuner so you can't watch one channel & record another,...the 8000 has two tuners but it's expencive & the (china) clone version not available until 2010.
I did a scan yesterday evening after plugging in the hard drive - say about ten minutes after being powered on - so I guess it was still cold - I've got a couple of the Movie channels in HD and a few more are 'half listed' in the EPG - by half listed I mean I can see the programme details in the Web EPG, but not the channel title.

That makes sense about the one tuner alright!

Whats the best way to record so? Enter in a start and end time by pressing the Red button and leave it on the channel, or use EPG?

the 800's both genuine & clones generate quit & bit of heat in operation,..more so when a hard disk is fitted, the chinese tend not to use flux in their solder, this can cause dry joints,..heat will cause dry joints to expand & make better contact & this might be why your picking up more HD channels,.. some 800 owners have the opposite problem, their box works fine until it heats up then the solder joints expand & poor contacts are the result.
I don't have a disk fitted so I can't help with that one.

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