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19. September 2009 @ 16:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So my VHS conversion technique is:

capture;
I capture the vhs through RCA to the pinnacle rs-232 looking cable using virtual dub using picvideo codec at q20 with v-dub at 352x480 yuy2,

capture filter method a;(4x3 video)
lanczos resize to 320x240

capture filter method b;(16x9 video)
lanczos resize to 352x240

frame to letterbox/crop size 352x480 in resize,
no audio compression.

re-compress;
run through virtual dub at 1650kbps ffdshow codec MPEG-4 XVID one pass average bit rate, H.263 default settings,
null transform filter if any minor edge crop cleanup is needed,
deinterlace-blend,
sharpen by 15,
Lanczos3 resize 640x480 (4x3) with no framing options set(is already letterboxed if 16x9)(will i need to use "ZOOM" feature on HDTV when playing back if letterboxed 16x9?)
aud recompress - lameMp3 128-190kbps CBR


I realize now that i have a good file to store on the hard drive, its still not best to convert to dvd since the quality should be a bit higher. So i need to refine my process since im pretty much NOT keeping these files on my hard drive but further adding loss to them by converting to DVD.

I use convertx to avi to convert them to dvd's so at what part in this process should i part and do something different?

Should i use a different vid recompress codec and at higher kbps (4000?), and leave the audio at pcm?

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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 19. September 2009 @ 18:44

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19. September 2009 @ 20:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Actually i use huffYUV. right now i just noticed that ffdshow package has the huffyuv codec listed. im testing out FFV1 in the yv12 colorspace with type VLC coder.

I remember doing some tests using picvideo-mjpeg2 in the past for capture, which yielded good results. It just takes a fast processor. But i think huffyuv capture then resampled into MPEG4 is the best way to go for image quality vs. space.



ASUS M4a87tdEVO / PhenomII X4 945 3.0GHz / 4gB ddr3 / 500GB RAID5 SataII / Asus 512mb 8400gs silent / Pinnacle AV/DV2 Capture / VDub 1.9.9 / centurion coolermaster / Dual 22" LCD (Extend mode) / $Win7 Ultimate 64bit


http://Wolfdogg.org - community site for nordic / northern breed dog handlers and biological knowledge share database for birders, dog sledders, campers, mountaineers, marine reef tank enthusiasts. Also europe image travel log.
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20. September 2009 @ 18:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
should i just keep replying to my post until i get an opinion on this??

ok, i dont know why i thought it worked but virtual dub stated i needed something i ddint have when loading a capture that was captured using ffdshow huffyuv codec, wasnt intersted in figuring it out. So i downloaded the huffyuv 2.2.0 codec today.

I got confused on the order to do things.

i would like capture vhs, so i choose the 352x480 format to pick up the interlaced material.

when i go to resample the interlated material, what order shoudl i do the three of the following

deinterlace
resize
null transform (if crop is needed)


if i deinterlace-blend the 352x480 that material still comes out 352x480 , so should i resize before or after the deinterlace.

the way im thinking is deinterlace first, then filter(shaprpen or whatever), then resize.

and is there a benefit for moving up the picture size to 640x480 after the material is deinterlaced, because it seems to be so much clearer than 352x240.

ASUS M4a87tdEVO / PhenomII X4 945 3.0GHz / 4gB ddr3 / 500GB RAID5 SataII / Asus 512mb 8400gs silent / Pinnacle AV/DV2 Capture / VDub 1.9.9 / centurion coolermaster / Dual 22" LCD (Extend mode) / $Win7 Ultimate 64bit


http://Wolfdogg.org - community site for nordic / northern breed dog handlers and biological knowledge share database for birders, dog sledders, campers, mountaineers, marine reef tank enthusiasts. Also europe image travel log.
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23. September 2009 @ 14:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
is there somebody that can help me verify that i am on the right track.

i have refined it to the following, and have a VERY nice looking image on DVD now

capture at 704x480 huffyuv,

resample at xvid-4000kbps, deinterlace blend, crop/resize bicubic 1.00 then letterbox to 720x480, sharpen, audio compression set to lamemp3 128kbps.

file is now ready to run through convert-x-to-dvd.

ASUS M4a87tdEVO / PhenomII X4 945 3.0GHz / 4gB ddr3 / 500GB RAID5 SataII / Asus 512mb 8400gs silent / Pinnacle AV/DV2 Capture / VDub 1.9.9 / centurion coolermaster / Dual 22" LCD (Extend mode) / $Win7 Ultimate 64bit


http://Wolfdogg.org - community site for nordic / northern breed dog handlers and biological knowledge share database for birders, dog sledders, campers, mountaineers, marine reef tank enthusiasts. Also europe image travel log.
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