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spiderhole
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8. October 2010 @ 10:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have two "hybrid" type 5.1 dvd audio titles, both of which are backups of the originals which I have misplaced over the years. A sound engineer friend did the initial clone of two titles I own for me long ago and I never had much use for them until we recently purchased a new Acura with dvd-a playback capability. First I simply tried the discs (dvd-r) in the car and got a "Bad Disc" error. A little research revealed that the Acura player will ONLY play non-hybrid dvd-a format and is very sensitive to watermarks. Further investigation into a solution to extract the 5.1 audio tracks into wav files and remaster to a new compilation revealed both how difficult this can be as well as some VERY STRANGE properties of these discs. If anyone can help me understand what kind of beasts I am dealing with that will help immensely....

Title "A"
Put the dvd in a Win7 PC or Mac, and the main menu pops up with a track list of 12 songs. Any of these will play fine and exhibit 5.1 sound. There is a menu item for "Videos", which takes you to a new menu that has 6 videos...all of which are songs included in the 12 on main audio only selection.
However, if I try any software to extract the audio tracks (DVD Fab 8, dvd audio extractor 5.2.1, etc), they ONLY see the 6 video tracks and the corresponding audio for each. Browsing the Video_TS folder reveals 7 VOB files, out of which only 6 of are enough size to be actual media (around 250mb each). The 7th is obviously a menu at 96k. DVD Fab and other software see the 6 titles as mpeg2 which match the duration of the music videos, but there are apparently two chapters contained in each title according to DVD Fab, with the 2nd chapter being 0:00 in length. However, it seems I cannot extract whatever that phantom 2nd chapter is. DVD Audio Extractor only sees the 1 chapter.

Title "B"
Same as above, except it contains no music videos at all. The only thing that shows up in any of my backup software is the menu VOB. Once again, there is no Audio_TS, folder...only the Video_TS with one large VOB (300mb) and one small one for menu (400k). If I do a file properties on the large file, I get the following info:

length:00:00:00, size 720x480, data rate 9000kbps, total br 9448kps, Audio bit rate 448kps, Channels 6, 48khz.

Small file: length:00:00:04 (all other properties the same)

Codec additional details in VLC: Stream 1-Video, Mpeg-1/2(mpgv), Stream 2-Audio, Codec A52 AC3, Channels 3F2R/LFE

VLC sees the audio section of both discs as a single long track with marker points evoked by the skip button (or clicking the graphical track list for Title "A"). Plays fine in Windows Media Player or on the Mac but I cannot get any extraction software to recognize the audio files. I'm guessing they are not "true" dvd-audio format since there is no Audio_TS folder, but I have no idea how they were authored/backed up.

Now, if I do a CLONE of either disc in DVD Fab all the audio tracks are there. Any help figuring out how to extract these to 5.1 wav files so I can nake a dvd-a compliant disc for my car would be appreciated.

Thanks,
m

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 8. October 2010 @ 13:20

mrslicker
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5. January 2011 @ 23:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dvd.audio.explorer.2008. mix with audacity if neccessary
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