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PS2 Slimline guide: external USB hard drive & game playing (NO CHIP REQ'D)
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Aeryk
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20. December 2006 @ 18:15 |
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Hi Nothing,
I'm not sure I understood your message, but I think you were asking for a copy of Swap Magic. A copy of Swap Magic won't do you any good, because it has to have special physical formatting on the CD/DVD that can only be performed when pressed at the factory.
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econmajor
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20. December 2006 @ 22:00 |
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i have a 250gb hard drive that i connect to my laptop through a usb. can i use this for the ps2? also, i have about 75 gigs of data on the harddrive, is there a way for me to use it with the ps2 and keep the existing files?
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nothingto
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20. December 2006 @ 22:04 |
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aeryk, i know that they can not be copied, well that is what i read from people, but i saw you guys here have way to make game work on hard drive, and jsut wondering if you do taht you cna make the swap magi, copy, with dnaxxx. and dropxxx.
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Aeryk
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20. December 2006 @ 23:33 |
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Hi Nothingto,
No, you actually have to have Swap Magic, first. That is the CD/DVD that then allows you to run a backup game - either on a hard drive or a copied CD/DVD. But, the first step requires a copy of Swap Magic. There is NO WAY from everything I have read, to be able to create a Swap Magic disk on home CD/DVD burners no matter what trick you try.
I thought from earlier messages you already had Swap Magic, and had backed up your games to your USB HD, and were just having trouble getting them to load?
The DNAS swap simply allows a game to load from the USB Hard drive using USBAdvance - but you have to have Swap Magic first to get USBAdvance to boot. The DNAS swap has nothing to do with Swap Magic, as far as I know, only with USBAdvance running the games.
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PTWhore
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22. December 2006 @ 04:45 |
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Can someone tell me if the tutorial at the very first of this thread will work with an original PS2 and not a slimline PS2?
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nothingto
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22. December 2006 @ 07:53 |
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aeryk yes i have,it, i bouthg it long ago.. but the only way i can play my game is if i burn it in dvd, and then swapmagic method, but since i post my first mail here, i saw you like games on the hard drive was easy but , i have read a lot and there no pssible way i cant, do it. :)
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Aeryk
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22. December 2006 @ 08:39 |
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PT, while I have just started in this adventure, I don't see why not, though I have not done it myself (only have a slim). For the chubby PS2's, there are better ways of running games from hard drives, I believe - like an internal IDE hard drive, for one. Much faster and more elegant. And, there are exploits which might not (not positive about that one) require the purchase of Swap Magic.
From everything I've read though, Swap Magic works on chubby PS2's, and the USB ports on these systems are more open then those on the slim, so chances are pretty good it will. Short answer: YES! Anyone who has more experience in this area feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
Nothingto, have you tried the DNAS swap method on even just one game? The black screen after selecting a game to load was the same thing I got until I did the DNAS swap. Have you tried that on any of your games? You are 99% of the way there - you have Swap Magic, it is booting from your hard drive, and you have USBAdvance working, now you just need to try the DNAS swap on one of your games. I know the method is a little complex, but it sure beats having to change DVD's all the time! I just leave one of the Swap Magic discs in the PS2, and can play any of my games from the hard drive!
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nothingto
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22. December 2006 @ 11:05 |
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no i havent try that one yet.. but i saw it works perfect for all of you, aeryk, if you can help me wiht that, i will be thankz, to you, . it seen to be easy, for you,, but for what i read, i dont get it, yet, thankz anywayz. and thank if you help me
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Aeryk
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22. December 2006 @ 15:23 |
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Hi Nothing,
Sure, I can try to help. Back on page 9, I specified a step by step process. Tell me which step you are having trouble with, and I'll see if I can't clear it up.
Good Luck!
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Aladdinn
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22. December 2006 @ 19:25 |
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Whats up everybody i just got a external hdd and i put some games on it but i cant put "Bully" or "WWe smackdown vs raw 2007" but i heard u need to patch those games in order to make them work but i cant find the programs or know how to do that
any help will be appreciated
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Aladdin
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Aeryk
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22. December 2006 @ 22:44 |
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Alladin,
Tell us how far in the process you are. You have Swap Magic, and have put USBAdvance on your hard drive, and are able to boot the PS2 to USBAdvance? And you have some games working from USBAdvance, but not the two you mentioned? So you just want to do a DNAS swap on those two?
If that is the case, I have written some instructions for the DNAS swap on page 8 (December 17th, 2006). Let me know what step number you are having trouble with, and I'll see if I can help.
If you haven't got the Swap Magic and USBAdvance part working yet, go back to the very beginning of this thread and read MasterChu's tutorial and Ace's additions.
Good Luck!
-- Aeryk --
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Ace_2
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23. December 2006 @ 07:37 |
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Hey, Aeryk, IT WORKS! Colin McRae Rally 2005 is fully functional using Burnout 3's IOPRP280.img(seems like region doesn't matter, just like file size). All I need to do now is patch the game to NTSC, reinstall it, and I'm good.
My console collection: Version 14A PlayStation 2(chipped), Version 7 PlayStation 2, PlayStation(both models), Wii, Gamecube, N64, Super NES(original from US and Japan and Mini), NES(front and top loader)Model 1 & 2 Genesis, Sega CD, Sega 32X, Atari 2600, Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Sega Master System(Model 1 and 2), Atari Flashback 1 & 2, FC Twin(2 in 1 NES/Super NES clone), GN Twin(2 in 1 NES/Genesis clone), Atari 7800, Intellivision II, TurboGrafx 16, GameBoy Color
My guides: Cardboard and Straw MOD: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/308926
3-method exploit for PS2s: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/337567 |
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Aeryk
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23. December 2006 @ 08:26 |
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Hey Ace, that's GREAT! Isn't it amazing when it works? I hate that pause while I wait to see if the black screen goes away and I get that little "loading..." word, but it sure is awesome when it works!
Good to know that the region doesn't matter, too. That opens up more possibilities for replacement DNAS/IOPR's.
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Ace_2
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23. December 2006 @ 08:47 |
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So do I. Makes me nervous, especially with the fact that it's sometimes possible for a game to be commonly thought of as not working(that was only the case with Colin McRae Rally 2005, I knew that my other games, Colin McRae Rally 04 and Need for Speed Carbon, were fully functional, but with choppy video sequences(is there a fix for that?)).
My console collection: Version 14A PlayStation 2(chipped), Version 7 PlayStation 2, PlayStation(both models), Wii, Gamecube, N64, Super NES(original from US and Japan and Mini), NES(front and top loader)Model 1 & 2 Genesis, Sega CD, Sega 32X, Atari 2600, Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Sega Master System(Model 1 and 2), Atari Flashback 1 & 2, FC Twin(2 in 1 NES/Super NES clone), GN Twin(2 in 1 NES/Genesis clone), Atari 7800, Intellivision II, TurboGrafx 16, GameBoy Color
My guides: Cardboard and Straw MOD: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/308926
3-method exploit for PS2s: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/337567This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 23. December 2006 @ 08:47
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Aeryk
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23. December 2006 @ 09:09 |
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I'm pretty sure the choppy video comes from the slower relative speeds of a USB hard drive versus an IDE internal. Surprises me a little that USB speeds would be slower than the native PS2 DVD drive read speed, but that's what I've read.
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Aladdinn
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23. December 2006 @ 10:22 |
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Originally posted by Aeryk:
Alladin,
Tell us how far in the process you are. You have Swap Magic, and have put USBAdvance on your hard drive, and are able to boot the PS2 to USBAdvance? And you have some games working from USBAdvance, but not the two you mentioned? So you just want to do a DNAS swap on those two?
If that is the case, I have written some instructions for the DNAS swap on page 8 (December 17th, 2006). Let me know what step number you are having trouble with, and I'll see if I can help.
If you haven't got the Swap Magic and USBAdvance part working yet, go back to the very beginning of this thread and read MasterChu's tutorial and Ace's additions.
Good Luck!
hey Aeryk
i dont have swap magic i use action replay max to boot usb advance elf file
yeah i followed master chus guide and i still couldnt get wwe smackdown vs raw 2007 to boot after i installed it i put the right IPRP file were the DNAS file was and i still get the black screen
as for bully i dont know how to fix it because its not a DNAS game
i just need help with these type of games
thank u in advance
ALaddin
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Bobba_fat
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26. December 2006 @ 06:21 |
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Hi just became a member! I was just wondering.. what do i need in order to get myself a working ps2 slim di i need anything excpet the swap magic and the external usb!
Could you please redirect me to a site where they have cheap usb, i cant find any :( and ive tried googling,, im sorry to bother but im very new to the ps2 scene.
So i need a usb harddrive and swapmagic sets anything else?
Is usb elf a device or software which i have to download im sorry i need ps2 guide for DUMBies
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Aeryk
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26. December 2006 @ 07:06 |
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Hey Aladdin,
For the DNAS game, try using an IOPR file from a different game. Some things I've read lead me to believe that the IOPR's are different in some way, so using another one may work. Someone suggested that you use the largest one (file size) that you have/can find. If that doesn't work, you might want to google "DNAS Patching." That is a different method that I know NOTHING about, but have heard about. Ace may be able to shed some light on the DNAS patching (as opposed to DNAS swapping) as I believe he tried that for his Colin McRae game. I have never needed to patch, though, so don't know much about it.
About your other game, I am not sure what to tell you. I have just started "PS2-ing" and only have four games, so I've yet to run into one that doesn't have DNAS, so haven't needed to work around that problem yet.
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Aeryk
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26. December 2006 @ 07:25 |
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Bobba,
No problem - everybody starts somewhere, and I just started on the PSTwo scene about a month ago!
Sounds like you are on the right track. Go back to the very beginning of this thread, and read MasterChu's guide. He explains everything that you need, and I think even links to the downloads for all the software except Swap Magic, of course.
The only software you should need to BUY is Swap Magic (or that other program that Aladdin is using) - everything else can be downloaded. Just a word of advice - when you buy Swap Magic, you can usually get a pretty good deal on a combined software/fliptop deal, which I'd go ahead and do. I actually found Swap Magic and a fliptop cheaper than just the software at many places! I used some place up in Canada - cybershop, or something, maybe? Not sure if they have my whole-hearted recommendation. The price was right, but shipping was slow, and the fliptop arrived broken (serviceable, but broken none the less).
USBAdvance is an ELF program which allows your PS2 to boot and retrieve games off of your USB hard drive. It can be found on the internet. I think MasterChu (first post on this thread) had links to the download site.
In regards to a USB drive, I had better luck with a 2.5" (notebook) hard drive in a USB enclosure than with a 3.5" (normal) hard drive in a USB enclosure. Anybody else care to comment on that? I also found that of the THREE 2.5" USB drives I had, only ONE worked while connected/powered on at the same time as the PS2. The others (and all the 3.5" USB drives) I had to boot the PS2, then when the Playstation logo appears, connect the USB cable.
If you don't want to wait, I would look for USB drives at eBay and by searching using Google's Froogle.com. If you are not in a hurry, keep your eyes open for after-rebate deals from big-box stores, if you don't mind dealing with rebates.
Make sure you go back and read MasterChu's guide, though, if you haven't already, then post if you have any questions about specifics.
Good Luck!
-- Aeryk --
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Bobba_fat
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29. December 2006 @ 09:24 |
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Hey thanks so much for the reply Aeryk. I think im getting to start to get the hang of it, sorta, lol ;)
1.But in reality what i really only need is swap magic/fliptop to play games!??? BUT the Harddisk is only for loading he games faster am i right about that, so instead of downloading the game and burning it to cd i use the usb.
2.Ive heard that swap magic doesnt work perfectly with all games, is that true? Do i have to change the discs everytime i want to play a game???
3.And most importantly i dont need to modify my cosole using Swap? Right?
thanks for all help
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Aeryk
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29. December 2006 @ 10:33 |
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Hey Bobba,
Yeah, that is that way it was for me. Slowly everything seemed to fall into place. To answer your questions:
1a) Right - Swap Magic/Fliptop will allow you to play DVD/CD copies of your games, but not from a hard drive (unless you add additional free software).
1b) Right again - Though the USB HD doesn't seem to be much faster at all then the PS2's DVD drive. Some discussions I have read imply that it might even be slower. The advantage of the USB HD is that you can put all of your games on it, leave the Swap Magic DVD in your PS2, and have access to all/most of your games without swapping discs in and out of the PS2.
2a) That is what I understand. The Swap Magic website says the latest version has "better compatability" which implies that there are some games that don't work with it, though it worked with all of mine. It does say it allows you to play games from other regions. Never done that, so I have no opinion on it.
2b) Yes - you put in the Swap Magic DVD or CD into the PS2, then turn it on. Swap Magic boots, then tells you to load a backup copy of your game. You take out the Swap Magic disk (that is why the fliptop is necessary) and put in the backup copy of your game, then press X (I think), and the backup copy loads.
3) No soldering or any other internal modification is required, but you have to take the top of your console off, remove the original DVD top, and replace it with the fliptop (a simple process). I did have to cut through the warranty label on my PS2 (which was of no importance to me since it was already out of warranty) to get the top off, though.
Hope this helps!
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Bobba_fat
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30. December 2006 @ 04:16 |
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Great help. thanks for all the info i got the swap magic part down now. Ok i have to look at the chip options as well thinking about either Matrix, green dot or DMS 4 pro se. seems like those 2 are winners ;) http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/304534
Anyways for allt he help its been incredible, great with such persons on boards, frienldy and very helpful. Any ideas on what you think might be best way to go?
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Aeryk
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30. December 2006 @ 08:50 |
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Hey Bobba,
Thanks for the props!
I gotta tell you I have NO CLUE when it comes to mod chips. I did a VERY little bit of research before deciding that I didn't want to spend the money or risk bricking my PS2. My VERY VAGUE impression was that I liked the MATRIX and DMS4 Pro in that order, but couldn't even give you reasons why.
Good luck finding the info you need!
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Ace_2
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1. January 2007 @ 11:10 |
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Got another game problem here. I have just copied WRC Rally Evolved to my hard drive(with both a DNAS swap and a PAL to NTSC patch. When I played it, it started to boot, but at one point, the game black screened on me and it was rolling(makes me think the NTSC patch didn't work). The DNAS in there is a DNAS300.img, and there's also an IOPRP300.img, but I had taken the IOPRP300.img from Heroes of the Pacific instead of using the one in WRC Rally Evolved. Need a little help here.
My console collection: Version 14A PlayStation 2(chipped), Version 7 PlayStation 2, PlayStation(both models), Wii, Gamecube, N64, Super NES(original from US and Japan and Mini), NES(front and top loader)Model 1 & 2 Genesis, Sega CD, Sega 32X, Atari 2600, Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast, Sega Master System(Model 1 and 2), Atari Flashback 1 & 2, FC Twin(2 in 1 NES/Super NES clone), GN Twin(2 in 1 NES/Genesis clone), Atari 7800, Intellivision II, TurboGrafx 16, GameBoy Color
My guides: Cardboard and Straw MOD: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/308926
3-method exploit for PS2s: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/337567 |
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Aeryk
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1. January 2007 @ 13:26 |
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Hey Ace,
Don't really have any advice, but I do have a question for you: Why did you choose to use an IOPR from a different game? Did you find something about there being an advantage to using a larger/different IOPR, or what?
If there wasn't a reason behind the original choice, maybe you should try making the ISO again with the IOPR from the original disc renamed to DNAS instead of the one from Heroes?
In spite of my last paragraph, I don't think you are having a DNAS problem though, really. With the rolling you are describing, it is probably something about the NTSC patch as you suspected. As far as I know the DNAS problem/replacement determines whether the game even boots at all, not anything about the video scanning.
Would you be willing to write up something about the NTSC/PAL patching process? I don't know anything about it - and don't have a need for it - but it would be good to at least have that information on the thread, too.
Thanks!
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