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SukodenX
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2. November 2002 @ 14:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use the smart ripper to rip DVDs and then i use DVDX to convert. Im trying to use 640X480 resolustion and an alright quality. I've downloaded plenty of movies and stuff but they all have awsome quality and fit on one or two cds. all the files i have created are using four to five cds. i dont know what to change to get this formula right. I have also looke at the properties of the files that i have downloaded but some of the options arent the same as the setting i can change on DVDx. any suggestions about formula or the programs im using? I'd really appreaciate it.
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4. November 2002 @ 13:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Divx encoded movies fit on 1 disk. Vcd encoded movies handle 80 minutes on 1 disk. Svcd about 60 minutes max. When using dvdx what codec for encoding are you using???? I think you are not selecting the correct video output...
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5. November 2002 @ 12:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well Im using the Divx 5.0.2 codec.. or something to that effect. I first rip the movie and then i convert it to avi format. It has an option to split it up into different types of sizes like infinite, 70min vcd, 80min vcd, 70 min iso data cd, 80 min iso data cd, and one that i can specify. the problem is that i cant get the movies to just one or two cd's. It splits it up into 4 or 5 cds. The file is too big to just fit on one or two cds. Im trying to find out if I should use a different program other than DVDx. I downloaded other movies like lord of the rings, a month after i saw it in the thearters. that file was only two cd's DVD quality(if not, damned close to it). it lets me ajust quality and what not but the only why i see it working is to lower the quality to get it to fit. I dont know how everyone else can do it.
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5. November 2002 @ 13:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tried dvdx and did not like it. My suggestion (but it won't do divx) is use dvd2avi and then tmpgenc (get 2.57 or higher version cuz it comes with a wizard for the newbie) to make the movie. It makes the best quality movies in vcd or svcd.
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6. November 2002 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey thanks for the info dude. I'll try it. But i have one more question. What is the average amount of CD's that DVD2avi take up for the the average length movie? 2-21/2 hours preferably.

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6. November 2002 @ 13:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
vcd is a set standard. A 80 minute cd will hold 80 minutes of vcd movie(biterate is constant @ 1500). Svcd will vary. If you are going to do svcd, I would limit each 80 minute cd to 50 minutes in svcd (biterate can be varied, but I would keep it at 2k or greater)...
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6. November 2002 @ 13:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh by the way, dvd2avi is not where you set the length of each file, you do that when you use tmpgenc.
SukodenX
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6. November 2002 @ 14:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Which do you recomend... vcd.. or svcd?
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12. November 2002 @ 03:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have the best success with the following programs to rip. i have ripped over 40 movies.
SIMPLE DVD2DVDR DISK COPY

Now where do we begin? Oh yes I have to say this bit.......This guide is meant to be an informative step by step process on how to make DVD-R backups of DVD's that you already own (to be more accurate backups of movies that are too big to fit on a standard DVD-R). It is not for making pirated copies of your favorite movie you don't feel like paying for.
OK first of all the reason I spent time on this page is because I am sick and tired of being asked how to do it, as the majority of the tutorials online, although very good, are confusing. Most sites don't seem to realize that not everyone has a good basic knowledge of their machines or the programmers they are using, yet would still love to be able to backup their own DVD's, or at least be shown how to in a correct step by step fashion in order for them to LEARN something !
Well i've sat down and drawn up a method which I believe to be not only the fastest, but easiest way to backup a movie that will not fit on a standard sized 4.7 GB DVDR. Oops have I baffled you already? OK for those that know what i'm talking about skip this bit.... For those that don't there are 2 types of DVD movie format - DVD5 and DVD9. DVD5 is a single layer disc that can be copied very easily complete with everything else that's on the disc. Unfortunately that format is not really used any more, the majority are the DVD9 format which is a dual layer disc and is much larger in size than a 4.7GB DVD-R. What this guide intends to do is teach you how to first rip the main movie files from a DVD9 format movie, then screw around with them so they'll fit on a standard 4.7GB DVD-R (actually its 4.3GB but I wont go into the aspects of the bullshit marketing). Are you with me so far ? If yes great - if no do not bother wasting your time with the rest of this tutorial :)
This is a list of the software that is used in this tutorial:
· DVD Decrypter v3.1.2.0
· DVD2AVI v1.76
· TMPGEnc Plus v2.56.39.143
· ChapterXtractor v0.961
· Spruce DVDMaestro v2.9.2915a
· Gear Pro DVD 6.02 rc07
Operating System: Windows NT/2000/XP with NTFS (don't try to do DVD-R with Windows 9X)

DVD-R Blank Discs: I recommend either using NEO DVDR or Purple Top Bulk Paq. They are both fantastic discs and very cheap. You can buy from www.playstationmods.com/cdr.htm, prices are from as little as £0.50
PC Hardware: Well its obvious you need a fast system, and if you are messing with DVD-R you probably already have one. We used Athlon 1800+, 512 SDRAM, 120 GB 7200rp, IDE drive. Not spectacular but does the job nicely. Of course the higher spec you have the quicker you finish the job. Before I forget we use the Pioneer A04 DVD-R Burner with the new v1.31 Firmware.
First of all you need to find out if your movie is DVD5 or DVD9. To tell which size go into My computer and right click on your DVD drive and click properties. It should tell you how big the disk is. As long as its under 4.7 Gigs then it should be a DVD-5, and will allow you to use the simpler DVD-5 Method which we will not go into here as its too easy - just use DVD Decypter to create a complete image of the disc. If it's bigger than 4.7GB then we're in business and you are 6 easy steps away from successfully producing a high quality backup with complete chapter selection.
There are 6 easy parts to this tutorial. You may have seen other methods that look simpler - well to be honest we don't find them as good - or much slower with the same results. The quality sometimes isn't that good, encoding can HOURS and the format isn't 100% compatible with all DVD players (including Playstation 2 which many have great difficulty in getting to work correctly).
Part I: DVD Decrypter (Ripping The DVD to Hard Drive)
Part II:DVD2AVI (Ripping The Audio Track)
Part III: TMPGenc (Re-Encoding The Movie To a Smaller Size)
Part IV: Chapter Xtractor (Ripping The Chapter Selection Information)
Part V: Spruce DVD Maestro (Compiling The DVD Project)
Part VI: Gear Pro DVD (Burn To DVD-R)


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12. November 2002 @ 04:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If your dvd player can handle it, svcd is the only way to go. If you set the encoder to over 2k bps, the quality of the picture for the most part will be near dvd. Vcd will always be only a step above vhs because you cannot change the biterate (the higher the biterate, the better the quallity of the picture). I usually make both because I can play svcd, but my friends have dvd players that only can play vcd, so I make vcd's for them.
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