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Alanj72
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22. August 2004 @ 05:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

It has been awhile since I had burned a movie DVD, and, actually, awhile since I've recorded on DVD period!!
Having said that, I bought a movie ( Butterfly Effect) and wanted to make a personal copy. I used DVD Shrink and, as usual, went to burn the image with Nero 6.0. Using Ritek 8X media I attempted to burn at 4X and got all the way to the "lead out" and got FAILED. Another try and it failed from the start. I did get a message from Nero saying that there was a compatabilty problem with XP Service Pack 2 ( which I just installed), but otherwise proceeded in my usual manner. I have a Pioneer DVR-107d. Am I just having bad luck? Or is the Service Pack affecting me? It doesn't seem as though it should.
Any ideas? Appreciate VERY much before I make more coasters than I have coffee cups.
Thanks

Al
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brobear
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22. August 2004 @ 06:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You may want to record with an RW disc until you get the problem solved. Save those coasters.

Can't help with SP2; I haven't gone there yet.

'Brobear'





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Alanj72
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22. August 2004 @ 06:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You've have a valid point!! I have some RW's and I'll do some "fiddling" around. This forum has been tops in solving some issues I had some while back. I might have jumped the gun with SP2 anyway, whether or not this has anything to do with my problem.
Thanks

Al
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22. August 2004 @ 06:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Have you updated Nero lately or since XP Service Pack 2?

http://www.nero.com/us/nero-up.php

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dlc2000
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have a look here , Nero 6 is on the list for having compatibility issues with the sp2 . http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2 hope that helps you
dlc2000
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22. August 2004 @ 07:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it appears Nero 6 is no longer on that list , it was on that list as of wednesday of this week , the list changes daily . i personally am waiting to download and install the sp2 because of all the trouble i have been hearing people have after installing it .
Alanj72
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22. August 2004 @ 08:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Usually I do my homework, but sometimes I blindly run into things I shouldn't.
Here's something very strange, though. I used an RW disk and after everything went fine, it got hung up on "lead out". I cancelled the job, but then checked the DVD and it seems to be OK. Played it on my home DVD player and it works.
Then I tried the Ritek R and I immediately got a power calibration error. I had this in the past but overcame it ( new IDE cable). So now I'm totally confused ----again. I'll keep working on it.

Al
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22. August 2004 @ 09:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am using xp service pack 2 and have burned a few dvds with Nero and i havent had a single problem. Install of xp sp2 went like a dream and very very stable


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Alanj72
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22. August 2004 @ 10:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, That's good information. Chances are I'm experiencing some other problem. Funny it's not the exact same problem each time I try. I had recently crashed my whole hard drive and put everything back in from a clean install. So this is the first time I had actually tried making a dvd since then.
Wonder why I got hung up on the "lead out" part with Nero with an RW dvd, but it came out ok. And then having power calibration when using a regular DVD. When things happen to me---they happen BIG time!!

Al
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22. August 2004 @ 11:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the link i posted above gets changed daily as microsoft fixes issues with the service pack . wednesday of this past week Nero 6 was on the list of programs with compatibility issues . it looks like them problems have been corrected because it is no longer on the list . as for your problems you have now they may not be related to the service pack at all . someone with more time with Nero might beable to help you with this issue . is your firmware up to date for your burner ? are your drivers for your system up to date ? some times updating your firmware improves compatibility with different media .
Doofy
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22. August 2004 @ 11:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just as a matter of interest where did you get your service pack 2 from? is it the final build?

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animedrag
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22. August 2004 @ 11:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Alanj72, i'm curious as to what is the compression ratio that DVD Shrink give the butterfly effect.
Alanj72
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22. August 2004 @ 11:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, an update. I DID finally get a good copy. I didn't do anything different. I got, I believe, about 59% compression. I also noticed that DVD Shrink had some "extra's" added on since I last used it. Like some kind of quality compression adjustment or something. I used those settings which took quite a while ( as it said).
Probnlem is, I can't be sure my next burn will be ok. Well, I've learned a lot---mostly from this forum---the difference between CD and DVD burning. Night and day!!

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22. August 2004 @ 11:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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the difference between CD and DVD burning. Night and day!!
You'd be surprised how long it takes some folks to realize that :)



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Alanj72
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Ha ha !! Yes, for sure!!
I first started my DVD burn career with a "power calibration" error that drove me crazy. Someone in this forum ( that's when I started here looking for help) mentioned my IDE cable. He called it something like 80 pin, but it was 40 pin, but with an extra wire(?) for each pin to do something like make the "transfer" more clean. That's not how he said it, but I had no idea what he meant. I figured he went too far in trying to nail my problem down. But I found a local dealer who had one so I tried it. And I'll be darned if everything went fine after that. I would have NEVER figured that out.

Al
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22. August 2004 @ 18:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
alan,
if possible let us know if you burn an other with no problem. i was ready to try to download sp2 when i read your post, now im not sure.
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22. August 2004 @ 18:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
One of my friends, who happens to be and IT engineer, played 'crash dummy' and loaded the SP2 pack. He said most of the changes are security oriented. He hasn't had any problems from it as far as recording is concerned. He has some of the 321 software, which can be touchy in regard to system environment, and he had no trouble on that front. Most people suggest though, that consumers should wait for Microsoft to make the necessary updates available at their update site. They will provide the parts needed for a particular OS, and suggest any that may be optional. I've been told that all of the SP2 pack may not be necessary.

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22. August 2004 @ 19:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I've been told that all of the SP2 pack may not be necessary.
That's why I've no interest in it until I absolutely need some part of it if ever :)



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Alanj72
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23. August 2004 @ 15:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I will certainly keep you updated on my next attempt at burning ( which I will give a shot at tonight). As for SP2, It does appear to be all security oriented, so it says. Is it using more system resources, giving me the "power calibration" error one time and not again?
I'll have to concede it was not a good thing to download the service pack right away, anyway. I also found an alternative site to download it seeing my automatic update wouldn't do it. Either my zone alarm or Adsubtract program stops me from doing that at the site. I have to shut them down to look at the updates. And then it says to wait for the "automatic" update to do it. So, I would have to stop those programs from running to do this ( which I never had to do before.

Al
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23. August 2004 @ 22:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have been experiencing an issue with SP2 and Nero6 Ultra for some time now. Everywhere I look seems the ones who ARE having problems are running Pioneer drives. Of cource thats not saying much as so many people opt to buy the popular high rated devices.

I continue to receive BAD_POOL_HEADER STOP:0x19(0x20) when I try to initiate either the audio or data moduals within Nero; oddly enough Vision and Recode work just fine- compile the project and burn the disc without error. To digress, the audio and data function within Nero will BSoD my system within seconds of launching the exe; I dont even get a gui before im hung out to dry.

I have completley reinstalled Windows w/SP1- no problem; everything works well-- reinstalled Windows w/SP2 all goes to hell once again (and we are talking clean with Nero). Again, reinstalled Windows w/SP2 and installed Nero then patched with current update from Ahead- ~NADA~

I really dont know what to do or think at this point; guess I'll read the rest of the posts on this topic- seem to be quite a few. Maybe someone figured out something other then the obvious (beyond the given troubleshooting one would partake in)

Any info is greatly appericiated-
Thankx,
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HDD1: [2xWD-Raptor 10K RPM 36GB (72 GB Total) RAID-0]
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Doofy
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Are you absolutely sure that it is the final build of SP2, i had 1 version of SP2 that claimed to be final and wasnt. I have installed the final version of SP2 and have had no problems whatsoever on my pioneer 107

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24. August 2004 @ 14:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just my 2 cents (US),,lol,, just downloaded SP2 this AM and burned 2 great disks this PM,,, no problems at all,, some of those folks with problems probably need to check for firmware updates,,, good luck all

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I for one will slowly update the 4 family computers to SP2 starting with the least important. If the corporate IT departments are being slow about their rollout it suggests there may be issues with certain software and hardware combos that has not been tested yet.

I have just spent the weekend troubleshooting a DVD burner problem that one machine has. This is the first time I have had a problem in seven DVD burner installs. Burner works fine in all the other machines but this one. I now know it is a hardware conflict and have a work around for now. However ......

The rollout of SP2 may work well for others but not for some. It is the combo of hardware and software that will influence the success or failure to the upgrade and that is difficult to predict.

Just my thoughts
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24. August 2004 @ 16:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If the only thing that failed was the closing disc procedure then the DVD should still play... I used to get this message all the time until I upgraded to the latest version of Nero.

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Well I got the Pioneer DVR-107d and I'm having trouble copying DVD since SP2 instalation......I notice something weird when i was installing the SP2...the two lights on my burners DVD-RW and CDRW went on like when updating the firmware......does SP2 add some kind of copy protection to my drives?

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