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tdale
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22. August 2005 @ 13:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Lumbjack. "well you don't need ANY drive in the pc as you are just going to mount the game into a virtual drive created by Daemon Tools "

I tested this on my PC and all good, I have a DVD burner, same with another PC. But, if the PC has no hardware DVD drive, the game says it needs the CDROM. While Daemon Tools is set corerctly,sats its a DVD virtual drive, emulation is on Safedisk , the game will not run. The only difference is that it doesnt have DVD drive, the gane must see this. It even has CloneCD virtual drive with the Hide Media option set.
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lumbjack
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22. August 2005 @ 13:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i really do not think that the game "knows" whether there is a real dvd drive or not. i have never heard of such a case.

do you have clonecd installed on the other pc where the game is working?
i've read multiple times that games don't start because of clonecd. you may even have to clean the clonecd registry entries.

do you have the latest Daemon Tools version?

otherwise i've got no clue as it has always worked for me. good luck
tdale
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22. August 2005 @ 14:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi again Lumbjack. This is what I did, FYI. My PC has a DVD burner, Daemon Tools 3.47 and CloneCD (virtual drive set to Hide CDR Media (this is needed to make sure game does not see a recordable disk, i.e. DVD-R or CDR). All good. Installed Sime 2 on my ex's PC, all good. (Cant recall if sahe has CloneCD or not). all good. My mates PC is also all good, but his son's does nothave a DVD drive of any sort, that seems to be the issue. The Virtul Driv from DT is a Generic DVDROM, but its a nogo on th3e DVD-less PC
lumbjack
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23. August 2005 @ 03:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi tdale

hmmm i don't know what else you could. maybe you could plug in a dvd drive into the son's computer, just to see whether this is the issue, though i still don't think so.
if you manage getting it to work please let me know, i've never had such a problem.
again, good luck
tdale
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23. August 2005 @ 12:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Lumbjack. All a false alarm! I setup a new PC that doesnt have DVD drive for my daughter last night. Popped my one in to get thge image onto the HDD. Ran Sims 2, all fine. Disconnected the DVD drive, still all ok, popped her CD burner back in, all fine. So, there is no issue. The problem was my mate got it going on his PC that has a DVD, but it would not work on his sons that has no DVD. As USUAL, my mate messes with his PC's too much , so the issue is his Windows. I wish I could get paid for the time on the phone woith him over the years....
lumbjack
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25. August 2005 @ 01:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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sk8er1234
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26. August 2005 @ 06:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi i am a tru newbie when it comes to backing up....i have just downloaded Alcohol 120% and i would like to have some steps on how to use Alcohol 120% when trying to back up the sims 2. please...
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26. August 2005 @ 10:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I HAVE A WORKIMG SIMS 2 DVD BACKUP, BUT... Its made with A120 image mounted to Daemon Tools. I need it on a PC with no DVD drive. I can copy the image to that PC, but it won;t run, as there is no DVD drive. Can this be worked around?
For the dvd version, one can't make a true 1:1 backup of Safedisc cd protection because one can't write RAO DAO in dvd write mode. My Plexy PX-712SA easily made backups of The Sims 2 University(PC version) simply because the Plexy writes in RAO DAO mode. Certain cd burners that write RAO DAO mode can make backups of recent Safedisc cd protection but the backup must be played in a cd/dvd-rom simply because of ATIP. For a dvd version, you have to rely on programs like Daemon Tools, so forth...

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naka5hima
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6. September 2005 @ 15:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi, i was just reading your threads on creating a backup copy of the sims2..
If its possible could you explain all together how i can achieve the duplication of the Sims 2 PC version?

As its hard to follow through all these messages? :)

Thankyou

Naka
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6. September 2005 @ 18:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Welcome to AD Naka :)

First off we need to know the exact make/model burner you have and what software you may already have.



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tdale
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7. September 2005 @ 01:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
HI Naka

1. Make an image onto your hard disk with Alcohol 120%. That image would write to DVD, but while its a perfect DVD copy, it cannot write the Safedisk sectors as thety are not "PC" format.
2. Install Daemon Tools. I think 3.47 is the latest version.
3. After rebooting, set the Daemion Tools Emulation (right click the SYSTRAY icon) to Safedisk.
4.Mount the image, right click Daemon Tools icon, take the top option, slide toi the drive letter, then the mount option, browsing themn to the image on the hard disk.
5. The Sims 2 will autostart, and install it. If it dopesnt autostart, go to Windows Explorer, then to the new dvd drive letter, and install.
6. To run the game, you must have the image mounted, when you do that it shoiuld autostart, if not, run form the Start Menu.

For some reason, my Win XP wont start when it is mounted, but it should as others I have installed do.

To back it up, I use WinRAR to archive the image into small files of 30Mb as self extracting archive. You cannot writre a 2.9Gb single file onto a DVD. I cant at least.
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7. September 2005 @ 04:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Naka asked how to make a backup copy, not run the game from a virtual drive.



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tdale
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7. September 2005 @ 13:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Nephilim and Naka
Ok, Sims 2 cannot be backed up. Its that simple. It will install but not play as it is Safedisk 2 protected, version 3.2 I think.

The easeiodt backup is if you can make the image (2.9Gb) and write that to a DVD, so it can b installed and played as above.

BUT, you cannot write a file of that size as a data file. You will note that if you look at a DVD movie, the max file size is 1 Gb.

So, we simply archive the image. WinRAR allows yopu to make a self extracting archive, where you can set the max file size. As the max file size is 30MB, I made my "backup" that way, so there is 101 files of 30Mb each. I simply double click the exe file, tell it what drive to exttract to, and the single file image will be on the hard disk. Moiunt that with DT to install, and to play.

If anyone can make a better and easier version of the "backup" I'd be keen to know

Cheers

Tony
naka5hima
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7. September 2005 @ 14:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Nephilim, :)

I have Toshiba CD-RW/DVD-ROM SD-R2212
Duplicating software :

-Drag'n Drop CD Version 2.10

-and also CD-clone as i attemtped to copy with it, as the previous threads described, but failed in doing so.

I have the PC CD-Rom Version of The sims2 and wish to create a back up copy.

Thank you for help
Naka

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7. September 2005 @ 17:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The CD ROM version can be backed up but there are only three brand name burners I'm aware of that can make 1:1 copies of Safedisc 3.20.022 and your Toshiba isn't one of them. The best of the bunch is the Plextor Premium (which I use and has never failed me) followed by the Lite On 52327S and the Asus 5232AS.

Given the burner you're using right now you're not going to be able to make a 1:1 copy of the game that functions exactly like the original so you'll need to use some sort of emulation to get the copy to run. In basic terms emulation helps an almost good enough cdopy pass the copy protection verification when you try to run the game.

Thanks to my Plextor Premuium I haven't had to use emulation so I personally have no experience with the ins and outs of it.

Maybe tdale has experience with it and would be kind enough to help?



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9. September 2005 @ 04:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi there thanks in advance for any help ok I have 3 iso files for the sims pc game and not sure how to burn them to a disk and then install them to play without the disks any help would be greatly appreciated thanks. katz




basspower
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10. September 2005 @ 19:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi, i red a lot of threads and i didnt see an answer for my question. i wanna burn Sims 2 DVD on a DVD. I dont want to have an image in my HDD and emulate it 'cause i wanna save space and i dont wanna have a 2.95 go image on my HDD. So, Does someone can explain to me in detail what to download and how to burn it if its possible. I already downloaded CloneCD and enabled HIDE CDR but i dont have ``PROTECTED PC GAMES`` profiles. I dont have any profiles when i wanna burn or write. i have the lastest version. Please someone help me ! Thanks

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naka5hima
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12. September 2005 @ 07:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Nephilim, thank you for for help,
I know im going off subject but you seem have great knowledge of computers.
I have a problem with another of my computers was wondering if you could help?

I installed a update driver for my graphic card(ATI Rage 180 pro)on my computer operating system Windows XP home edition.
During the installation the wizard said it could not continue with the installment so i cancelled it, then my computer froze so I CTRL+AL+DEL to the task manager and shut the computer down.

When I re-booted the computer i loaded as normal till the log in stage, i could chosse my user account and log in, but then the computer freezes, and only shows my background wallpaper,this continued as i tried to reboot, i then checked the task manager and noticed that Explorer.exe was not loading in the proccesses? which to my knowledge loads the user operating interface?

I tried to run new task and entered explorer.exe in the create new task field and the computer cannot perform the task and a error windows displays, then the computer reverts to its previous state of being dormant.

I was told by a collegue to insert the XP cdrom and reboot the computer and use the automated problem solving device? but the cdrom did not load>?

I went into the bios (F8) when the computer was booting and selected start in safe mode with command prompt. Then tried loading the XP cd thourgh that which it worked and the menu displayed but when it came to chosing a option and loading a application the computer crashed again. I then tried to revert back to the state of which my computer worked fine but no success..
It seems my computer cannot run any .EXE applications?

if you or anyone could help i would be most grateful!

Thankyou NAKA
mabelle26
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22. January 2006 @ 18:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi everybody,
I've got a problem backing up my SIMS2 Holiday Edition.
I copied all 4 CDs by using Alcohol120% 1.9.5.3105 with
a Plextor PX712A (CD & DVD burner).
I installed the game from copies but when I run it I get
error when I use the copy and runs OK with original Disc 1
in the drive.
I did the burning for Disc 1 with original runing at x1 speed.

Please Help,
Mabelle.
mikedpp
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19. March 2006 @ 14:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I did the following as quoted by tdale in 9/2005, but still get an error when try to run the program. Any Ideas?

MIke

"1. Make an image onto your hard disk with Alcohol 120%. That image would write to DVD, but while its a perfect DVD copy, it cannot write the Safedisk sectors as thety are not "PC" format.
2. Install Daemon Tools. I think 3.47 is the latest version.
3. After rebooting, set the Daemion Tools Emulation (right click the SYSTRAY icon) to Safedisk.
4.Mount the image, right click Daemon Tools icon, take the top option, slide toi the drive letter, then the mount option, browsing themn to the image on the hard disk.
5. The Sims 2 will autostart, and install it. If it dopesnt autostart, go to Windows Explorer, then to the new dvd drive letter, and install.
6. To run the game, you must have the image mounted, when you do that it shoiuld autostart, if not, run form the Start Menu. "
kiss161
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21. March 2006 @ 14:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you need better discs
mikedpp
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21. March 2006 @ 15:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It worked on one PC and not the other. You think the discs would matter?
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25. July 2006 @ 08:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yomi made the sims 2 for me i installed it and then when i went to play it sed tht i had to re-incert the disc because it had not been reconised.help please

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bat_man11
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21. August 2006 @ 17:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey, I've been having major problems with this game. I'm burning it on one computer with CloneCD and then installing it on another computer that does not have CloneCD. Is this a problem? If I make the disc with CloneCd, does the computer need CloneCD to play it? Thanks in advance! BTW, can CloneCD be used for emulation?

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