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Taliahad
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21. September 2004 @ 11:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Downloaded .avi files too big for 4.7 GB DVD-R.

I've got a number of downloaded .avi movies around 700MB in size clogging up my hardrive and want to burn them onto DVD-R. Is there any way to compress them so that they'll fit on. If not, can I get bigger DVDs than 4.7GB, 'cos that's all they had down my local Dixons. I've got Toast Titanium but that doesn't have a compress option (obviously).
I tried downloading ffmpegX but it's quite confusing with loads of options and don't even know if that's the right program for me. HELP!
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kelbelle
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21. September 2004 @ 13:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not sure how much this would actually compress - but you could always try StuffIt. Stuff them into a folder and burn it that way. Like I said- it really may not compress them as much as you need.

That's really all I could think of...that or just burn a few DVDs :)

Sorry if that didn't help much. Good luck!
Taliahad
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21. September 2004 @ 14:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks anyway, but I want to burn them so that I can watch them in a regular DVD player, not as data files.
Anyone else got any ideas?
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22. September 2004 @ 08:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i had the same problem.I had a movie from 700mb,I burned it with toast and it said that the file was over 6gb.I tried other ways but every time i came on that 6gb.The only thing i could do was to burn it on 2 DVDs.
This is stupid and it takes A LOT of time to encode the dvds in toast.
My final solution is dont burn that kind of files on dvds.I rip dvds and then burn it,best quality and fast!!!
Taliahad
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22. September 2004 @ 10:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanx RedBull. My mate has told me about this guy who sells
blank DVDs over the net. I read somewhere that they make
DVDs that go up to 17GBs! If he sells these and they play on a
regular DVD player then I'll get some of those.
Still, if anyone out there knows how to fit a 700MB .avi file
onto a regular 4.7GB DVD please let me know so that I can
use up the lot I just bought. ;)

I've just read in this forums glossary that there ARE DVDs that
are bigger DVD-5 (which is the regular 4.7GB size) DVD-9
(which is 8.something) and so on. I'll get me some of these (if
they work on my regular DVD player).

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. September 2004 @ 10:33

Auslander
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22. September 2004 @ 11:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if you try to buy a 17 gig dvd, you're gonna get ripped off. they don't make them. that simple. lol, you'd need a triple or quadruple layer burner and the accomodating media, and that will probably never be created. the dual layers you speak of will most likely work on your player. mainly depends on age. if the file is only 700 mb, then encode it as a video cd, except with 48000 KHz audio (or whatever the format is) instead of 41000 and it will work on a dvd player if you burn that file to dvd. you can fit several such movies that way.


Taliahad
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22. September 2004 @ 12:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay. I had a look through ffmpegX and am encoding it using the technique you said. Will reply soon to see if was a success...watch this space ;)
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23. September 2004 @ 10:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
.Just go to www.afterdown.com/glossary there you can select all the diffrent dvd's like DVD-9.
I'm going to buy a dual layer burner from lacie,only 190$,than i can burn DVD-9,that are single sided dual-layer discs from 7,95gb.Never small any dvd's again!!!
I'm waiting until the price of that discs is going down,
now it's 7-8$ each disc,no thanks
Taliahad
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23. September 2004 @ 12:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm, interesting. So, can I burn those DVD-9 disks in my regular Superdrive then or will I have to by a special burner?
RED_BULL
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23. September 2004 @ 12:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No,you cant burn dual layers with a superdrive.Thats why im going to buy one,a dual layer burner (best from lacie).And that burner burns normal dvds 4X,twice faster than the superdrive!!
iFix
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23. September 2004 @ 17:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just thought I'd mention that Red_Bull's superdrive must be older... because most superdrives now burn DVD @ 4x. And the G5's superdrive even burns DVD @ 8x.

Yet, the new Lacie Dual Layer burner still is gonna woop major ass!
RIDE
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24. September 2004 @ 01:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dunno if this is much help... but...
what i do with AVI files to burn dvds out of them is...
1. Drag the AVI file into toast, but instead of burning the dvd make a disk image. (takes a while, but then toast would have to encode the AVI file anyway)
2. Mount the disk image
3. Use DVD2One or DVD remaster to resize the resulting mounted disk image to the smaller size required (usually 4450mb)
4. Burn the dvd (VIDEO_TS folder) in toast as DVD-ROM (UDF)
Taliahad
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24. September 2004 @ 10:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Aha! I think you may something there. Will try that, too... thank! ;)
dmiles1
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24. September 2004 @ 12:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What should I do if when i have burned the dvd when I play it on the dvd player every once in awhile it goes pixely
Taliahad
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26. September 2004 @ 04:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Try burning it again, it's probably copied badly. It could also be a bad file. Or a cheap DVD... Try cleaning the disk (like a CD: from the centre to the edge with a microfibre cloth ;)

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26. September 2004 @ 05:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dvd_9 is the type of dvd u would rent from a video shop or buy from a store like hmv and its easy 2 burn using Nero 6 ultra edition
Auslander
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26. September 2004 @ 10:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dvd-9 is not necessarily the type of dvd you rent from a video store. about half the movies and most of the games out there are on a dvd-5 configuration.


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Taliahad
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26. September 2004 @ 13:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Will DVD-9 work on a regular DVD player?
ade_95
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26. September 2004 @ 14:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes but DVD-9 holds alot more info thats y 2 put it on a normal dvdwr ur better off usin dvd shrink

TRUE OR FALSE??
Auslander
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26. September 2004 @ 15:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
talihad:
dvd-9's work on MOST dvd players; there's a list here:

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/

look around for your player there.



ade_95:
for the most part, true. as with all rules, there are exceptions.


Taliahad
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28. September 2004 @ 10:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Right.

I've tried the technique that RIDE mentioned and whilst I can get my head around the second bit (remastering and resizing a Video_TS file) I had trouble actually getting a useful Video_TS file. The one I got had the sound but a blank (black) picture.

I'm now using Final Cut Pro with 3ivx to turn the .AVI file into a .mov file which is resized and can then be burned through Toast.
Only, I get the same problem; either sound without picture or picture without sound (or sound that is 'truncated' - cuts out after a few minutes).
What settings do I need to get both picture and sound at a size that's burnable on 4.7GB DVD disk using 3ivx through Final Cut Pro?
Auslander
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28. September 2004 @ 12:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i think maybe i got a little lost somewhere here...are these the same 700 MB movie files? re-encoding them will do a little damage to the quality, you realize. every time you encode a video file, it loses a little quality. did the method i suggested earlier not work? hmm...


RIDE
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28. September 2004 @ 23:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can get a small application called, DIVX doctor that will convert your AVI / divx to a usable mov file. But as previously stated you will lose some quality due to the nature of decoding an already encoded file.
You can use the resulting mov file to burn in toast and use the method i mentioned earlier.
If divx doctor does not decode the file there is usually something not quite right or corrupted with the AVI file.
yojimbo2k
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29. September 2004 @ 00:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just a simple, daft thing to throw into the fray...

Make sure your dvd player plays AVI files... and divx if you try to encode it that way. Just in case we're all missing a trick remember that if you're trying to make it DVD format, you can only get a limited *time* on there, much as if you try to burna bunch of MP3s back to a cd - burn them as MP3s and you'll get loads, burn them as CD tracks and you'll get 80 minutes.
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yojimbo2k
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29. September 2004 @ 05:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
alright maybe that's not *strictly* true, but you are greatly limited by time. If you reencode to VOB (mpeg 2) then the fiels will naturally get larger. You can squeeze more on there by dropping the amount of information encoded, but try and get more than 2 hours on a standard DVD-R and you'll find it's really not worth watching.
 
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