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mePingu
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3. October 2004 @ 11:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

What is really TOC good for.

people says that the TOC has to be bigger then
what the backup-game I am going to play.

but swapmagic cd is about 47mb..
and CDloader 30mb,
DVDloader about 530mb.

I guess the TOC isnt read from them ?!
-because the boot discs are not heavy at all..

so how can they boot a 600mb cd-backup ?
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3. October 2004 @ 17:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
toc = size of an ORIGINAL ps2 game. when you use cd or dvd loader, you have to insert an original ps2 game to refresh the toc.




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3. October 2004 @ 19:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah Table Of Contents pretty much,the thing is swapmagic cd is good for or cogswap is the refresh feature.In conjunction with this you can pretty much boot any game.The games you should probably look for I think would be the Dvd9 games.If you can find them,than you should be set on the TOC issue.Although the Onimusha Blade Warriors game has a big TOC also that would be another game to look into also.




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mePingu
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3. October 2004 @ 22:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

My steps are these:

0. start the ps2 :)
1. insert swapmagic
2. "Insert disc" comes
3. I do the eject-fix and puts in the game I want to play

So L-Burna, I dont understand what you mean with
DVD9, what is that ?
and why should I need to use a game with high TOC.

Am I to use ha high-TOC-game before inserting the game I really want to play ?

How will I achieve that, you see which steps I use above...

Please tell me on how to achieve this TOC-fix.

I got No Solder, and Swapmagic CD 2.0 as well as the Swapmagic DVD. (am having troubles to boot DVD-rips, but I guess I need swapmagic cd 3.0 to boot them ?!)

/ martin
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3. October 2004 @ 22:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Use the cogswaploader and when it says PS2 cd,which I assume you are using right(the swap magic Cd 2.0).It will say it in the bottom left screen of the menu of cogswaploader.You will want to eject the tray,and plug the game that has a High TOC code to it.When I mentioned Dvd9 that means a 9Gig game or close to 9gig game.After it says PS2 Dvd on the bottom left screen,you then use the boot method.I am not sure if it works with the no solder man,sorry.I use the fliptop method and it works pretty good.The swap magic V3.0 or V3.2 cd will work using the TOC refresh method also.You might want to try out the cogswaploader man,and see if that will help you out.




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3. October 2004 @ 22:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Another thing is that the TOC method is used when you are having problems booting a game.If you are looking into fixing dvd-rips.You might want to check out breaker pro V1.1 .It is used in the dvd-rip area,and PS1 titles.The swap magic discs are only used for full games,and the breaker pro is used for dvd-rips.




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mePingu
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3. October 2004 @ 22:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

GREAT REPLY.
I hope you can answer some straight-forward questions
as well from here.

Okey, this is what I am to do.
1. Get Swapmagic 3.0 (enables booting CD games over 632mb?)
2. Get Breaker Pro (So I can play DVDrips and games over 632mb)

Questions Swapmagic CD 3.0:
1. Can it play 632mb+ CD-r's ?
2. Can it play DVD-rips ?
3. if YES on both questions -why need of Breaker Pro

Cogswaploader is ONLY for BOOTING DVD-BACKUPS ?

I burned a dvd-backup of Tony Hawk Underground:
(4.17GB PAL Tony Hawks Underground)

It doesnt boot using SwapMagic DVD 2.0,
is this a case why I need to have a DVD9-ORIGINAL ?
(because it has to be an original-game doesnt it for the cogswaploader)

WHY isnt there a Swapmagic DVD that has a 9gb TOC out there, instead of the one that exists now ?

/ martin
dud0r
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3. October 2004 @ 23:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dvd9 won't work as TOC refresh, since the ps2 is a strange device it can't handle dvd 9 correctly the second layer is triggered from inside the game or something , the ps2 will just read the first layer for the TOC refresh
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3. October 2004 @ 23:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
Questions Swapmagic CD 3.0:
1. Can it play 632mb+ CD-r's ?
2. Can it play DVD-rips ?
3. if YES on both questions -why need of Breaker Pro
1. no
2. no
3. thats why you need breaker pro. you load swap magic 3.0, then insert breaker pro to refresh the toc.

Also THUG boots right up with only the swap magic dvd for me. What brand media did you use?




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mePingu
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3. October 2004 @ 23:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

I did use Princo DVD-r media.
And burned it at 1x through Alcohol 120%
with the playstation2-setting.

I use the swapmagic dvd, and puts in the THUG-dvd.
It wont boot up, a red border is shown after a
couple of minutes.. Do I need to do any "Toc-fixing"
for getting it to boot correctly?

I havent heard either if Princo is good or
bad anywhere, so it might be the media..
-but I hope not.

I have heard lots of people mentioning
Ritek dvd's.



Regarding CD-r I use Verbatim,
but I dont know if they are great..
must get "breaker pro" to start boot
the dvdRips and see how it goes.
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3. October 2004 @ 23:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
I did use Princo DVD-r media
Princo = VERY BAD!
You heard right, ritek is one of the best and is still very cheap.




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