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Having problems with DVD Decripter & DVD Shrink. Can anyone please help?
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tak_em_ez
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5. November 2004 @ 20:42 |
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Hi everyone, I'm new to the burning world.
I just recently started burning DVDs, and havn't really hade any problems until reciently. I've tried reading up on some of the topics that are already posted, but still can't seem to fix the problem.
My Operating system:
Windows XP Home Edition SP2
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ Processor
512MB PC2700
DDR SDRAM memory
160GB 7200RPM Ultra DMA HD
130GB Free Space
Drive E: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM352F
Drive F: HP DVD Writer 630c
DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.1.0
DVD Shrink Version 3.2.0.15
I think I got everything if you need more info, let me know.
OK, now for the problem.
OH, the name of the movie is (Ocean's Eleven).
First I will start with DVD Shrink.
I clicked open disk, select DVD Drive window appears,
I click Drive E:/[OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001], then OK.
Shrink Starts Analysing, Then about half way through the Analysing of the movie part, the preview picture freezes, and I get an Error message. It Reads,
DVD Shrink encountered an error and cannot continue.
Failed to read file "E:\"
Incorrect function
I click OK, and cannot go any further.
Now in DVD Decrypter
Under Source I click Drive (E:)[2:0:0] SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F
Label: OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001
Region: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 - RCE Protection: No
Copyright Protection System Type: None
Under Destionation: C:\DVD Movies\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001.ISO
This appears in the box to the right:
SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F T903 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD-ROM
Disc Information:
Status: Complete
Erasable: No
Sessions: 1
Sectors: 4,091,860
Size: 8,380,129,280 bytes
Time: 909:20:10 (MM:SS:FF)
Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Book Type: DVD-ROM
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: 10.08Mbps
Number of Layers: 2
Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,595
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,242,543
I click on Decrypt, It starts, then after about 25 minutes I noticed that the time remaining clock starts going haywire, then I get an error message.
DVD Decrypter Error Message
I/O Error!
Divice [2:0:0] SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F T903 (E:) ATA
ScsiStatus: 0x02
Interpretation: Check Ccodition
CDB: 28 00 00 1E 49 08 00 00 01 00
Interpretation: Read (10)- Sector: 1984776
Sense Area: F0 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 64 00 00 00 00 00
Interpretation: Illegal Mode for this Track
It gives me three options: Abort, Retry, Ignore
I click Abort, then it asks me: Delete Incomplete File? YES, NO, I click YES
Here is a copy of the log the last time I tried it:
I 23:38:35 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.1.0 started!
I 23:38:35 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
W 23:38:35 Drive D:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB
I 23:38:35 Initialising SPTI...
I 23:38:35 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 23:38:35 Found 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW!
I 23:40:17 Operation Started!
I 23:40:17 Source Device: [2:0:0] SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-352F T903 (E:) (ATA)
I 23:40:17 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
I 23:40:17 Source Media Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
I 23:40:17 Source Copyright Protection System Type: None
I 23:40:17 Destination File: C:\DVD Movies\OCEANS_ELEVEN_2001.ISO
I 23:40:17 File Splitting: Auto
I 23:40:17 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 23:40:17 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 23:40:17 Extracting Sectors... (LBA: 0 - 4091859)
I'm kinda stuck on this one, because I can still burn other DVD Movies. I was thinking that maybe it was the movie itself. If anyone can help me out on this one. Please do, and Thanks. Tak_em_ez
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ScubaPete
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6. November 2004 @ 19:44 |
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Hi tak_em_ez -
First off it seems like we may have trouble with your disc. Try cleaning your DVD discs. Yea, I know they're new and clean but do it anyway. Do it a few seconds before inserting it into your DVD tray, use a disc cleaner, eyeglass cleaning solution or 99% Isopropyl Alcohol and a soft cotton cloth and rub-a-dub, dub. As soon as you're finished, "Pop" it into your DVD tray and fire up your program.
Let's redo your settings in DVD Decrypter -
When ripping in the "Default" mode doesn't seem to be doing the job, go to "Tools", "Settings", "File" "Mode" then "tick" Remove PUO's" . If you're ripping in the "ISO", "Read", "Mode" "tick" "Remove PUO's" there also. IMPORTANT: While you're here, go to the "I/O" tab and in the bottom right-hand side "tick" "Ignore read errors," an excellent setting when working with a disc with a corrupt file or two then click "OK" and endeavor to rip again.
When you run into the "retry error "Hit" retry. It's attempting to get over the bad files.
BTW< the files it's getting held up on ? it could be because of a mfg error or a scratched surface -
Anyway - there's a bunch to work with - let me know how you make out -
Pete
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tak_em_ez
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7. November 2004 @ 07:28 |
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Thanks, but it still didn't work.
I still got the same errors, and also got a new one.
Failed to send Challenge Key.
Have you got any more suggestions?
Thanks Again, tak_em_ez
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7. November 2004 @ 18:53 |
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Go to "Tools", "Settings", set everything to "Default". Then in the "General" tab change, "Removal Method" from "Normal" to "Aggressive", in "File Mode", "tick" Remove PUO's." For ripping in the "ISO Read Mode", "tick" "Remove PUO's" there also. in the "CSS" tab, under "CSS Cracking Method", choose "Brute Force ~> I/O Key Exchange" and "On Failure" choose "Yes". . IMPORTANT: In the "I / O" tab, in the bottom right, "tick" the box which says, "Ignore read errors". This is an excellent setting for dealing with scratched discs which may cause ripping problems.
**this was blatantly plagarized from one of ScubaPete's posts**
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tak_em_ez
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8. November 2004 @ 00:51 |
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Thanks for the help. I'll try that and let you know what happens. tak_em_ez
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tak_em_ez
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9. November 2004 @ 12:54 |
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Well I tried everything so far and nothing seems to work. I think that it must be the DVD, because I havn't had any problems with any others. It must have a scratch on it that I can't see. If you guys have anymore suggestions. I would greatly appreciate them. And I thank you for taking the time and trying to help me with this problem. For right now I think my sister has the same movie, I'm going to try to burn hers and see if that one works.
Although I do have one more question it you don't mind helping me out.
I have a DVD movie that is a two disk set, one has the movie on it, and the other has the deleted & alternate scenes, art gallery, & music videos.
How do I go about putting it all on one disk, or can I.
Disk one is 7.4GB, and disk two is 7.5GB.
Thanks again for the help. tak_em_ez
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ScubaPete
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9. November 2004 @ 16:51 |
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tak_em_ez,
First things first - about your scratched disc, if it can be returned for another, I recommend that -
If you can't do that, try this -
I call it, "Dr. ScubaPete's, too cheap to buy the professional stuff, Recipe Book for Scratch Repair."
To help with those small "Kiddie Scratches" on your DVD's -
TO BE USED AS A FINAL RESORT to retrieve scratched DVD's.
Materials needed:
A soft cotton cloth
Toothpaste w/Borax (Arm & Hammer may be added)
(Brasso metal polish may be used as a substitute for toothpaste)
Isopropanol Alcohol
Pledge
Glass
Ice
Orange Juice and Vodka
Method: "If this doesn't work it's into the "Circular File" (an Americanism meaning "The Garbage can") with you -
START:
1. Place the disc on a firm soft surface.
2.Apply a small amount of toothpaste with a small amount of Arm & Hammer Baking Soda to a clean, soft cotton cloth and apply to your DVD. Rubbing very firmly in even strokes from the center outwards towards the edge. Repeat 10 to 15 times. Do this over the entire disc turning the disc slowly in a circular manner, always going from the inside to the outer edge.
When Finished -
3. clean it either with a commercial unit (available at "Radio Shack" OR your local electronics store) OR clean the disc thoroughly with a clean cotton cloth moistened with Isopropanol Alcohol, Contact lens cleaner OR in a bind, you may use some Windex (Windex has some additives, coloring and the like). Clean by using a firm even rubbing motion from the center outwards towards the edgeClean the disc thoroughly with a clean cotton cloth moistened with Isopropanol Alcohol, Contact lens cleaner OR in a bind use some Windex, using a firm even rubbing motion from the center outwards towards the edge.
NEXT:
4. Using a clean piece of cotton cloth, apply Pledge to the entire disc in the same manner as the toothpaste was applied above.
Attempt to play disc.
5. If the disc refuses to play, take 1 large 12oz. glass, add just 3 Ice cubes, too many ice cubes will "water down" the mixture rendering it unsuitable for usage, then add 70% Orange Juice and 30% Vodka. The contents are to be shaken, NOT STIRED. The glass's contents are to be liberally applied internally.
Steps 2 through 5 may be repeated as required to recover disc.
After 2 complete passes, step 5. may be repeated PRN. (PRN is medical lingo for "As needed" OR "Whenever you want.) :P)
As for 2 Discs (or more) on 1 use DVD2One in the "Join" mode.
The join mode is a very powerful new feature of DVD2One. It can be used for many things:
Joining a movie that has been spread over 2 sides of a disk (aka "flipper") or even over 3 disks.
Joining of different episodes of a (TV) series on 1 disk.
Adding a music video, documentary or Featurette after the main movie.
Adding an intro (for instance THX or Dolby) before the main movie.
Or any combination of the above possibilities !
The join mode is not limited to only 2 titles, but it can join any number of titles on 1 disk. Of course the total size of the titles you want to join has its limits. DVD2One has built-in warning messages to let you know when you go to far.
The join mode has 2 different modes:
Seamless. The separate titles are joined in 1 titleset, and will play continuously without interruption.
Non-seamless. Each title is put in its own titleset, and there will be a small delay when the player goes from one to the other title.
The seamless mode is the perfect mode for joining a movie that has been spread over different sides or disks. DVD2One will examine automatically whether the different titles can be seamless joined together. For this the video, audio and subtitles need to be the same.
The non-seamless mode will work with any title, and can be used in all other cases. DVD2One provides convenient ways to skip through the different title sets.
How to use
The join mode is very simple to use, since it works like a repeated movie-only mode. After selecting the first title you come to a summary screen. Here you can select another title you like to add to the list, or start processing. If you select to join another title, you will advance through the selection screens again. The only difference is when using seamless mode, you do not have to select audio, subtitle and angle. The selection for these items is taken from the title to which the new title is seamlessly joined.
Advanced Navigation Mode
This new feature is experimental and may not work correctly with specific DVD players, or may have some unwanted side effects. It is recommended to try it first with a re-writable disk. It adds the following ways to navigate between the different title sets:
· Right menu button for next titleset.
· Left menu button for previous titleset.
· Next chapter at the last chapter of a title
goes to the next titleset.
· Previous chapter at the first chapter of a
title goes to the previous titleset.
The menu button system may interfere with subtitles. Also if a titleset does not have subtitles, a dummy subtitle is added to make this feature to work.
Cheers,
Pete
IFFIN ya don't need working menus, you can use DVD Shrink in the re-Author mode.
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tak_em_ez
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29. November 2004 @ 15:50 |
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Well I finally got the movie to burn. I barrowed my sisters and hers burnt fine.
Now I am having some problems with some others. one of them has got me confused a little. It is a four part movie on two discs. disc one did fine, but when i try to burn disc two the first part seems two decrypt fine, but when it gets to the begening of the last part movie it freezes.
The name of the movie is Stephen Kings, The Stand.
It has never been put in a DVD player. It dosn't have any scratches on it, and i also tried cleaning it noumerous times.
With DVD Decrypter i get the message "illeagal mode for this track" that goes on for hours, and it dosen't seem to be getting anywhere.
With DVD Shrink i get an error "failed two read drive E/".
With Clone DVD2 i get an error that says something simular to DVD Shrink, and also says to try and clean the disc.
I have tried everything including step 5 in scubaPetes' thread above many times, but nothing seams to work except step 5.
Can anybody help me. If anyone has time could you explain to me what all the letters mean in DVD Decrypter so that maybe I could understand the program a little better. The letters that I am refurring to are PUOs,VOB,IFO,RCE,RC,MDS, and any others that my help me understand the program.
Thanks for everything, and sorry it took so long to get back in touch. tak_em_ez
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ScubaPete
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30. November 2004 @ 15:02 |
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tak_em_ez,
RIPPING WITH DVD DECRYPTER
I'd like you to check your DVD Decrypter's settings. First, it should be version 3.5.1.0. Go to "Tools", "Settings", set everything to "Default". Then in the "General" tab change, "Removal Method" from "Normal" to "Aggressive", in "File Mode", "tick" Remove PUO's." For ripping in the "ISO, Read Mode", "tick" "Remove PUO's" there also. in the "CSS" tab, under "CSS Cracking Method", choose "Brute Force ~> I/O Key Exchange" and "On Failure" choose "Yes". . IMPORTANT: In the "I / O" tab, in the bottom right, "tick" the box which says, "Ignore read errors". This is an excellent setting for dealing with scratched discs which may cause ripping problems.
Some people like ripping with DVD Decrypter using the "File" "Mode" BUT, especially for episodel-type DVD's, I feel that nothing can beat ripping the DVD using the "ISO", "Read", open DVD Shrink go to File", "Open Disc Image " to locate your ISO image - after allowing DVD Shrink to load up the image, just process it as usual then burn to disc using your burner of choice.
HINT: If you are going to burn with DVD Decrypter, DON'T FORGET TO - go back to DVD Decrypter after ripping, to reset the "Mode" from "ISO - Read" to "ISO - Write".
IMPORTANT: In DVD Decrypter, go to "Tools, Settings", go to the "I/O" tab and in the bottom right-hand side "tick" "Ignore Read Errors," this is an excellent setting for dealing with scratched disc which may cause ripping problems.
Cheers,
Pete
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The letters that I am refurring to are PUOs,VOB,IFO,RCE,RC,MDS, and any others that my help me understand the program.
Is there a reason why you can't use the Glossary yourself ?
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yvyj
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3. December 2004 @ 05:50 |
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I can realy relate to tak_em_ez,
ScubaPete if your out there, since your the expert maybe you can tell me what this error message is on the dvd decripter. This is the log and is said I had a data error (cyclic redundancy check)--what does this mean? If I play back the movie, it burned just fine up till that point. A partial movie is no good. How can I fix it? I figure it must be a wrong setting maybe. I have all default settings. And re-authored to take out some of the garbage I didn't want.
I 02:22:19 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.1.0 started!
I 02:22:19 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 1)
I 02:22:19 Initialising SPTI...
I 02:22:19 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 02:22:19 Found 1 CD-RW and 1 DVD±RW!
I 06:30:47 Operation Started!
I 06:30:47 Source File: D:\MY MOVIES\MAN ON FIRE\MANONFIRE.ISO
I 06:30:47 Source File Sectors: 2,285,848 (MODE1/2048)
I 06:30:47 Source File Size: 4,681,416,704 bytes
I 06:30:47 Destination Device: [0:0:0] Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16 BWSB (F:) (USB)
I 06:30:47 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: SONY-D11-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x)
I 06:30:47 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 06:30:47 Write Mode: DVD
I 06:30:47 Write Speed: MAX
I 06:30:47 Test Mode: No
I 06:30:47 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 06:30:47 Filling Buffer...
I 06:30:49 Writing LeadIn...
I 06:31:31 Writing Image...
E 07:10:46 Failed to read from file: MANONFIRE.ISO
E 07:10:46 Reason: Data error (cyclic redundancy check).
I 08:41:20 Synchronising Cache...
I 08:41:21 Closing Track...
I 08:41:58 Finalising Disc...
E 08:42:15 Failed to Write Image!
E 08:42:15 Operation Failed! - Duration: 02:11:28
I 08:42:15 Average Write Rate: 224 KB/s (0.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 891 KB/s (0.6x)
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ScubaPete
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3. December 2004 @ 11:52 |
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Hi yvyj, welcome to our little club,
A CRC error cpuld be from either a dirty or scratched disc OR from Crappy media. From looking at your Log, you have the most common problem, Crappy media.
Let's take your Memorex as an excellent example as DVD media goes, 90% of Memorex, made by CMC, is sub-standard as far as DVD backups are concerned, figures as high as 50% coasters have been reported (One member bought a stack of 50 and got 23 good burns.), not what I would call an impressive record. Memorex made a name for itself with their magnetic tapes (VHS and audio cassettes) and have been living off it ever since. There are 4 different companies that manufacture Memorex DVD's BTW and product quality varies widely as you might imagine. Only 10% of the Memorex out there, those are discs manufactured by Mitsubishi in the 25 pack spindle , and they're the exception - they are the good ones. It's easy to see now why the quality of a big-named company can't be trusted - " Who's making your Memorex tonight ?"
Is it just Memorex ? No ! I just used Memorex as an example, Princo, Orange Pack, Great AZO and most "store" discs aren't all that suitable as a DVD backup media - that's why we are specific in the type of media we are recommending.
1. * Cheap media freezes, skips, pixelats and may refuse to be recognized by both burners and players :-( Besides "Freezing", "skips" many times you'll get a "Cyclic Redundancy error" or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won't accept your "cheap" media :-(
Another problem which, "Pops up" is a "*Power Calibration Error". This can stop you right in your tracks and most often is caused by, Yep, you guessed it, inexpensive media. *A "Power Calibration Error" can also be attributed to the Optical Components of a DVD Writer, though this isn't usually the case.
Orange Pack, Princo, Great AZO and 90% of Memorex plus many others are just not that good for DVD burning. Those same discs however, are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets and Data..Even DataSafe G04's made by Ritek have been reported as an inferior quality media and are evoking that "Oh no, I shouldn't have gotten those."
What we are suggesting is to download this DVD Identifier to find out who manufactured your DVD and if it's a decent quality.
http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
Once you have your disc identified, click the "More information" icon and see what information you're given. if you're not sure of the quality, come on back and we'll check it out for you -
2. A good grade, Hi-quality media is needed for DVD reproduction ! RiData, Sony, TDK, "Branded" Ritek G04's or "Branded" Verbatim Data Life, Verbatim DataLife plus, Taiyo Yuden's and generally, almost any discs manufactured by Mitsubishi are excellent bets. Among the better discs we're looking for, any media boasting "Advanced Metal AZO" - BUT it must say "METAL" AZO !, this indicates a superior dye and dye application on a good composite disc, while they are sometimes a bit "pricey" they are just the type of media we're looking for to do our DVD backups, Prices online from Meritline.com OR Newegg.com have gotten Ritek G04 starting at about a $ .45 (USD) a disc -
For DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win BUT the majority lose, they lose varying amounts true but, they still lose :-(
Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty; it surely cannot hurt.
In an effort to clear the air, when I speak of "Cheap" or "Inexpensive" media, I'm not referring to the price you pay at the counter - I'm referring to poor quality control used during manufacturing and the quality of the dye, dye application or composite type used. I'm not saying it won't burn - Some may burn, some may not. It's quality is inconsistent, meaning it's not dependable. To make matters worse, many times the discs that you do burn may play in your PC BUT your standalone player may not accept them - what good then is a backup DVD that cannot be watched on a DVD player ?
When I say "Branded," that means that when you pick up a disc in your hand, it says "Ritek" or "RiData" on the disc itself. The monetary cost of the media we recommend many times is cheaper than what you are purchasing now.
We like to verify our information prior to recommending things. There are certain things we look at. For instance, when their dye and dye application are listed as unknown, this almost guarantees us they are using whatever they can get at a cheap price. Companies that use quality materials like to BRAG about it, naming names and staying with quality manufacturers who produce their media.
Using DVD identifier and MediaMatch can help you find out a lot about what you're using. Purchasing your DVD media online can insure that you're getting quality merchandise at a good price. Shopping wisely will save you time, aggravation and money.
So, what do we do to try to get your crappy media to work until you can get some decent stuff in ?
Here's some HOT TIPS for your POOR MEDIA:
1. Here's a good fix. Compress your DVD to somewhere around 4.3GB instead of the recommended 4360MB. I.e., Go into DVD Shrink, "Edit", "Preferences" then set the "DVD Target Size" to "Custom" and enter 4300MB as the size. Reducing the amount of Data to be burned it keeps your burning away from the disc's edges where the dye on poor quality DVD discs tends to be uneven and may even be brittle and flaking.
2. You may reduce the number of errors and "artifacts" (the "freezing", "skipping" and other picture abnormalities) when burning poor media by burning at a reduced speed. It will take longer but what the heck, you're saving money with those "Cheap" discs (Lol). Since you're compressing more it might be wise to burn just the movie, the less you burn the better the quality sooo, movie only, please.
The "Magic cleaning" technique: Try cleaning your DVD discs. Yea, I know they're new and clean but do it anyway. Do it a few seconds before inserting it into your DVD tray, use a disc cleaner, eyeglass cleaning solution or 99% Isopropyl Alcohol and a soft cotton cloth and rub-a-dub, dub. As soon as you're finished, "Pop" it into your DVD tray and fire up your program. You would be surprised how many times your disc is now "seen" :-)
When you get some different media, stop back and let me know how you made out,
Cheers,
Pete
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doopy12
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4. December 2004 @ 15:15 |
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I have an I/O Error message coming up every time. What should I do?
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ScubaPete
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4. December 2004 @ 20:12 |
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doopy12, You have GOT to be kidding -
Read my last post - it applies to you -
Ya really need to read and absorb what you read -
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yvyj
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5. December 2004 @ 15:11 |
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Hi Scuba Pete,
Thanks for the advice. Your the "man"!!! It worked like majic. So far all my crap media is working working after doing everything you said. I'll heed to your advice in future DVD purchases.
[/Everyone--listen to Pete.]
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ScubaPete
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6. December 2004 @ 14:23 |
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yvyi,
I'm glad you now see the light :)
Media is a major part of DVD backups. You can use that cheap stuff for anything BUT DVD Video and it will do fine - For DVD backups, pass the good stuff please -
Now your job, should you choose to accept, spread the word -
Cheers,
Pete
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tak_em_ez
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9. December 2004 @ 05:34 |
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Hey ScubaPete,
I just wanted to check in and say THANK YOU for all the help and time that you have taken to help each one of us on getting started.
I do also have one more question which will help me out alot and maybe some of the other guys as well, but I have a story I would like to share with everyone first, and the question will follow.
After reading the posts, I considered myself very lucky.
Needless to say I payed too much for all of the DVDs that I have bought so far in a store, and my shopping for DVD media will be done over the internet from now on, but I just want to share my story with you and everyone else just in case anyone else might have the same problem.
When I first started burning I thought any blank DVD
media would work. So I first bought a couple 15pks of Maxell 4X DVD+R. They worked just fine. Then I noticed that in the store the DVD-Rs were a little cheaper, but really didn't know the difference between the two, so I bought a 3pk of the Maxell 4X DVD-Rs to try. They also did just fine for me and the quality was about the same. So I went out and bought a 100pk of Memorex 8X DVD-R(and paid too much, but in the store they were about $40.00 cheaper than the +Rs, and I also didn't notice that they were Memorex until I got home and opened them).
OK, now here's the problem, after burning a couple and checking them in my DVD player, they played fine, but then my brother wanted a copy of the same movie, so I made him a copy on the DVD-R, but it wouldn't play in his DVD player, but it played in mine. Lucky for me, the movies that he wanted I had made my first copy on the DVD+Rs, so all we did was swap and I didn't waste any DVDs, but I know now that his player will only play DVD+Rs,(at least of that brand).
This is where I consider myself lucky, I think that I got that 10% of the good ones that you were talking about in your post. I got 99 good burns out of it, and I think that I would have gotten 100 but I messed one up myself tring a differen't type of burning sofware.
But after reading your post and others, I don't want to even try to take that chance again.
I hope this might help someone out, because I would really hate to see someone spend alot of money on DVDs and in the end they don't play in their player, If you want my opinnion, that is probably worse than buying a 50pk of the crappy media and getting 2 good burns that play in your player.
SO if you are not sure if your DVD player will play a certin type of DVD, I would suggest only buying a couple and trying them first before you blow your load.
OK, now here is the question.
I know what type of disc I am going to order from Meritline.com, but can you help me out with a suggestion on the speed that I should try.
My burner says it will burn +Rs at 16X, +RWs at 4X,
-Rs at 8X, -RWs at 4X, ROM at 16X, and DVD+R DL at 2.4X. I am planning on buying some RiData +Rs and would like an opinnion on the speed that I should try for the best quality.
Thanks again, tak_em_ez
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ScubaPete
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9. December 2004 @ 16:03 |
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Good story, I'm glad you "lucked" out all the way - I wish I had :(
To answer your last question first,
I have heard of a couple of pple burning at 8X more who cannot. Most pple with newer burners are staying at 4X with a few opting at 6X without too many coasters.
As your speed attempts go up, so do your accidents (kind of like driving cars, Heh, heh). The vast majority of pple I know are staying at 4X. I can burn 4X at 8X BUT I do hate coasters so I stay at the tried and true, 4X.
I have no doubt that you can burn Data at 16X (once the discs come out But DVD Video is and always will be a different deal than Data -
As for buying what your standalone plays, I couldn't agree more BUT rather than buy discs, why not just use this link to verify compatibility -
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers.php
Cheers,
Pete
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10. December 2004 @ 17:39 |
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Tried to copy the movie to hard drive with dvd decryptor and see if you still have a problem. If not, open the file from DVD Shrink and try it that way.Try updating your firmware at www.cdfreaks.com. that might help with reading with your burner.Because a DVD player will read a DVD better than a DVD Burner.Ok here is what you can do,Put the disc in the drive and open up 1.DVD Shrink 2. click re-author 3. click DVD browser. 4. click on your dvd drive 5. drag and drop main movie file to left window above the small black one.Do this because the disc may have some scratches on the disc causing it to stop in the middle of checking it's content.If your lucky the main movie file is not corrupted and you still will be able to back up the file. here is some extra back-up tools on these sites http://www.mrbass.org/dvdrip/ (Pattin-Couffin Driver for ASPI setting in dvd decryptor) and www.DVD43.com A cool smiley face that decrypts files in seconds.good luck
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ScubaPete
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11. December 2004 @ 16:39 |
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Just a little correction an addition,
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Because a DVD player will read a DVD better than a DVD Burner.
Actually, that's not quite true. A DVD burner reads just about anything and a DVD Player is much more limited. AVI's, MPEG 2, many MPEG 4's and more cannot by played by a DVD Player. DVD RW burners and DVD ROM drives are about the only things that will even recognize those files and they do so equally. (Unless you have a DVD Player mixed up with a DVD ROM)
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Do this because the disc may have some scratches on the disc causing it to stop in the middle of checking it's content
Should you have a disc with any sort of problem, DVD Decrypter should be your first choice of action. Primarily because it is better suited to rip through problem files, not DVD Shrink. A key setting would be in the setting's I/O tab; "tick" "ignore read errors"
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(Patin-Cauffin Driver for ASPI setting in dvd decryptor)
Actually the Patin-cauffin drivers and the ASPI layer's are interfaces between the software and the DVD drives. I don't believe that exchanging the ASPI layer for the Patin-Cauffin drivers will make a drastic difference in the manner in which DVD Decrypter can rip a disc.
Cheers,
Pete
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12. December 2004 @ 00:28 |
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HI
ive had this problem forever but i just used a different burning software. whenever i try to write the saved image using dvd decrpter, i get this....
I/O Error!
Device [3:0:0] Lite-On DVD-RW
Scsi Status:0x02
Interpretation:Check Condition
CDB:2A000000000020000020
Interpretation:write (10) - Sectors:32-63
Interpretation Write error
I hit retry then get same message except at the end it says....
Interpretation:Command Sequence Error
It saves the image fine, but when i try to write an image it gives me this. i use sony dvd-r's ive used another burning program to make backup copies of my ps2 games, but i cant seem to use it for making movie backups, i've read everything i can find and still get screwed, so could someone please help
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tak_em_ez
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12. December 2004 @ 05:36 |
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Hi Anarchy69
It seems like you've got the same problem that I had at one time.
This is a copy of what ScubaPete wrote in one of these posts that really helped me out.
RIPPING WITH DVD Decrypter
I'd like you to check your DVD Decrypter's settings. First, it should be version 3.5.1.0. Go to "Tools", "Settings", set everything to "Default". Then in the "General" tab change, "Removal Method" from "Normal" to "Aggressive", in "File Mode", "tick" Remove PUO's." For ripping in the "ISO, Read Mode", "tick" "Remove PUO's" there also. in the "CSS" tab, under "CSS Cracking Method", choose "Brute Force ~> I/O Key Exchange" and "On Failure" choose "Yes". . IMPORTANT: In the "I / O" tab, in the bottom right, "tick" the box which says, "Ignore read errors". This is an excellent setting for dealing with scratched discs which may cause ripping problems.
I would like to add something here that I think would save you alot of time, I tried it and it saved me a whole lot of time, But Scuba if you read this, Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
Under the I/O tab, in the same area where you checked Ignore Read Errors, beside Software Read Error Retries, I think that under the default settings, it is set at '20', I set it to '0' when I had the same problem.
I tried it both ways just for the heck of it.
With the Read Error Retries set at '20', it took about 17 hours to finally decrypt.
With the Rad Error Retries set at '0', it only took about 5 1/2 hours, and I got the same results.
Their was a small scratch on the disc that I was trying to decrypt.
After burning it, I played it in my DVD Player, and the only problem that I had was where the scratch was,
when it got to that part of the movie, the picture jumped for a second, and that was it. Luckly, it was in a part of the movie that really didn't make any difference.
NOTE: One more thing you will still get an Error massage that will probably say:
Failed to read sector(then some numbers)Illegal mode for this track.
Just let it keep going, it will finish sometime in the near future.
In the meantime, go do something nice for your loved ones, Hey, After all it's Christmas.
OK: Back to you Pete.
Some people like ripping with DVD Decrypter using the "File" "Mode" BUT, especially for episodel-type DVD's, I feel that nothing can beat ripping the DVD using the "ISO", "Read", open DVD Shrink go to File", "Open Disc Image " to locate your ISO image - after allowing DVD Shrink to load up the image, just process it as usual then burn to disc using your burner of choice.
HINT: If you are going to burn with DVD Decrypter, DON'T FORGET TO - go back to DVD Decrypter after ripping, to reset the "Mode" from "ISO - Read" to "ISO - Write".
IMPORTANT: In DVD Decrypter, go to "Tools, Settings", go to the "I/O" tab and in the bottom right-hand side "tick" "Ignore Read Errors," this is an excellent setting for dealing with scratched disc which may cause ripping problems.
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ScubaPete
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12. December 2004 @ 16:16 |
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Thank you, tak_em_ez - it can help especially if he's having trouble readind the original disc -
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Hi there Anarchy69, welcome to our little club :)
Generally an I/O error is a result of the lens or disc being dirty but the number one reason reason for the error is because it is a disc of poor quality. It is also popssible that you may need a firmware upgrade -
Check the lens out by cleaning the lens with compressed air OR a lens cleaning disc. Second, try some different media and lastly, go through this post and see how your Firmware stacks up -
A good grade, Hi-quality media is needed for DVD reproduction ! RiData, Sony, TDK, "Branded" Ritek G04's or "Branded" Verbatim Data Life, Verbatim DataLife plus, Taiyo Yuden's and generally, almost any discs manufactured by Mitsubishi or RICOH are excellent bets. Among the better discs we're looking for, any media boasting "Advanced Metal AZO" - BUT it must say "METAL" AZO !, this indicates a superior dye and dye application on a good composite disc, while they are sometimes a bit "pricey" they are just the type of media we're looking for to do our DVD backups, Prices online from Meritline.com OR Newegg.com have gotten Ritek G04 starting at about a $ .45 (USD) a disc -
In an effort to clear the air, when I speak of "Cheap" or "Inexpensive" media, I'm not referring to the price you pay at the counter - I'm referring to poor quality control used during manufacturing and the quality of the dye, dye application or composite type used. I'm not saying it won't burn - Some may burn, some may not. It's quality is inconsistent, meaning it's not dependable. To make matters worse, many times the discs that you do burn may play in your PC BUT your standalone player may not accept them - what good then is a backup DVD that cannot be watched on a DVD player ?
When I say "Branded," that means that when you pick up a disc in your hand, it says "Ritek" or "RiData" on the disc itself. The monetary cost of the media we recommend many times is cheaper than what you are purchasing now.
We like to verify our information prior to recommending things. There are certain things we look at. For instance, when their dye and dye application are listed as unknown, this almost guarantees us they are using whatever they can get at a cheap price. Companies that use quality materials like to BRAG about it, naming names and staying with quality manufacturers who produce their media.
What we are suggesting is to download this DVD Identifier to find out who manufactured your DVD and if it's a decent quality.
http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
Once you have your disc identified, click the "More information" icon and see what information you're given. if you're not sure of the quality, come on back and we'll check it out for you -
Let's work on your Firmware too,
1. Let's check for up-to-date Firmware for your burner.
"OK, so what is this "Firmware" garbage?" Fair question. Firmware is a "tutor" who's job it is to eliminate any "bugs" found in your drive and to "introduce" your burner to all the different kinds of media to your burner is likely to run into and to tell your burner a little bit about it. What type of media it is and at what speed to burn it. As new media is introduced OR, as the Mfgrs of your burner find new ways to use it, new firmware updates OR "Flash upgrades" come out to "school" your burner, keeping it up-to-date. It's good to keep your burner up-to-date as it "tweaks" your burner and keeps it operating at peak performance.
The Mfgrs of your burner find new ways to use it, new firmware updates OR "Flash upgrades" come out to "school" your burner, keeping it up-to-date. It's good to keep your burner up-to-date as it "tweaks" your burner and keeps it operating at peak performance.
Of major Importance - When dealing firmware, you must match your burner's exact model with the proper Firmware. Trying to "Flash" your burner with something "Close" won't do it. It must be the exact firmware for your drive. ("Flashing" is what the installation is referred to when you put the firmware into your drive.) Trying to "Flash" your drive with some other drive's firmware can ruin your drive.
At the bottom of the page look for "What's my firmware? - Try this little tool I found," Download this tool and check out your Firmware's health (up-to-date wise). You can probably get a current upgrade there also -
http://flashman.rpc-1.com/
Firmware page -
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_all.php
Always check your burner's Mfgr's "Support" section to see if some newer Firmware is there -
Firmware, You can't burn without it -
Checking through all of that shouldn't take too long and should get you back on the road -
Cheers,
Pete
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