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danny007
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22. November 2002 @ 13:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've got a dvd+rw. The make is RICOH and im usin NERO 5 to burn the software from. I was wandering how i can copy official xbox games onto a blank dvd+rw disc? Anyone help me? I would be very grateful if anyone can help. THANX!
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Ricci
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2. January 2003 @ 12:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i dunno but i wana know too. i think you need a mod chip in your xbox too. x box cd's are invriped so that only the x box can read them. u probably need some software to allow your to read past the encription. :S
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7. January 2003 @ 22:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hehe.. i know how..
you'll need a mod chip (prefereably a matrix mod chip), evox D6 ejectfix bios for the mod chip, evolution x dashboard and a network card...
see my guides i posted for it..
http://www.geocities.com/daseamonkey420
peace
seamonkey420

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10. January 2003 @ 13:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
do you need a dvd burner for this? or is cd burner sufficient?
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11. January 2003 @ 17:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dvd burner is ideal, i have one so i dont' know or haven't tried to backup games to a cd-r. probably going to be quite a bit or work, and you need to find the right kind of cd-r media, xbox is picky on reading cd-r's.. cd-rws, dvd-r/-rw and dvd+r/+rw it isn't as picky with but cd-rs it is.. weird..
if i get some time this month, i check out the process of doing games to cd-r (i've gotten a few requests on a guide on how to do it, so if people would think it was useful, i'll consider it as my next project)
peace
seamonkey420


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15. January 2003 @ 11:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i think someone forgot to mention that the x-box does not read dvd+r or dvd+rw disks. so in theary you would be wasting your time. oh and it will not read cdr but will read cd/rw
if anyone tells you diffrent matey. like it will read dvd+r disks they are either attention seekers or full of ***p

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15. January 2003 @ 11:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what??

AIDEN: you have been misinformed.

I have an XBOX mod and it reads all of my XBOX games i have ripped onto DVD+R and DVD+RW.

My xbox is the older version 1.0 too.

peace
seamonkey420
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15. January 2003 @ 11:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
AIDEN, why are you misinforming people????

"i think someone forgot to mention that the x-box does not read dvd+r or dvd+rw disks. so in theary you would be wasting your time. oh and it will not read cdr but will read cd/rw
if anyone tells you diffrent matey. like it will read dvd+r disks they are either attention seekers or full of ***p "

-NOT TRUE! do you know how to even rip a game?
understand the file system that xbox's use?
DVD+R won't work if you dont' have a mod chip, a mod chip is required to play any "official" "backup" game.

here's what i use and they have worked:
-Memorex 4.7 GB DVD+R and DVD+RW discs
-Verbatim 4.7 GB DVD+R discs (high quality generic, the ones on ebay)
-HP 4.7 GB DVD+R and DVD+RW discs


AIDEN
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15. January 2003 @ 11:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
do i know how to rip a game ??? lol
you connect the network cable in the back of x-box load the dashboard up etc,etc the i use flashftp
now i guarantee you that in my machine it will not read a dvd+ disk and i have version 1 with the enigmah chip installed
i use the philips dvdrw228 drive and have tryed
philips disks
tdk
datawrite
none will load up when i asked at the fair they told me the x-box wont read dvd+r disks, rougthly 15 people that are chipping the damn things on a weekly basis told me this. they all cant be wrong. how ever if you were to proove me wrong then i will say sorry to all the good people that read on this forum. the only thing i can think of is that you have a diffrent drive in your x-box than i have in mine. but like i say i may be wrong
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15. January 2003 @ 12:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
re: AIDEN; sorry about jumping the gun there..
thought you might be someone trying to undermine the DVD+R/+RW format... again, my bad..

hmm.. perhaps its the burners too..
i have an HP200DVDi COMBO DVD+R/+RW and CD-R/-RW drive.. and i have a matrix mod chip in my xbox with the evox D6 EjectFix bios and have gotten all of my xbox backups to work, including the ones that i made my own menus for and put multiple games on (i love my jedi knights and splinter cell dvd!!)


again, sorry about that..
peace
seamonkey420


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AIDEN
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15. January 2003 @ 12:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no probs seamonkey, i will keep trying with the dvd+
to be honest i use the dvd- drive more, mainly due to the price of the media and the compatability issue, not slagging the + media off or anything. im happy with both writers

peace matey
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7. February 2003 @ 03:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does anyone knw where i can get decent technical information on the XBOX, and it's protection schemes. I would like to try and make my own modchip. Also if anyone feels they could help please contact me. i have experince in programming, and programming pic chips. but absolutley no electronics experince, so someone with electronics or pic chip experince would be a great help

thanks in advance for any info.
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7. February 2003 @ 08:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wassup Phreak

here are a few links:

-basic hardware tech specs
http://www.pcvsconsole.com/features/consoles/xbox.php

-whitepaper on protection scheme flaws (this is the payload of what your looking for, i think)!!!
http://web.mit.edu/bunnie/www/proj/anatak/AIM-2002-008.pdf


i want to know if there is a way to edit an evox d6 bios file to allow for a IGR-like feature except it would be to power off/on the xbox itself? Or perhaps a way to get the dvd dongle remote to turn it off/on..

peace
seamonkey420

ps that second link is the jackpot..

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8. February 2003 @ 05:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the info, ahh if only i had a the cash to buy a logic probe.

U can probably accomplish what your on about. You should check out the OpenXDK on sourcefogre, as for powering the xbox down, i should imagine u'll have to do some poking around, no doubt theres an interrupt or something to do it. As for working with the remote, i belive it is connected to the XBOX's USB system (all perephrials are), as for as i knw, there is no code in the OpenXDK for this but u could try looking at the soucre for the XBOX linux project, or the media player they are working on.

good luck!


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8. February 2003 @ 06:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so seamonkey it sounds if we have a comparable set-up, your xbox is able to read the dvd+r(rw) stuff right? I just got a new xbox, I am wondering if they took that fuctionality out of the newer versions or maybe if they have added it. I have not as of yet checked your guide (Im at work). I am interested in getting the matrix chip, do you have links to the bios image out, and maybe a good details guide on how to flash the chip? These are the things that I am looking for. Also are you able to play the "backed up" version and the orginal simultaneously on live or system link? Help

Jason Dion
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8. February 2003 @ 16:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
System link should work fine. It's still the same game, no code has changed, the only thing the chip changes is the boot sequence, nothing else should be effected. Except if u install a new dasboard, then live may be affected, depends if the dasboard supports live.

hope this helps

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14. February 2003 @ 06:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Are XBOX games DVD-5 format or DVD-9. (Aka single or dual layer DVD's.)

If games are dual layer how can they be copied?

hoppers
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16. February 2003 @ 06:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Most will fit on a 4.7 Gb disk....only a few are bigger than that.

to make the others fit, you have to get rid of some of the videos.but they have to be replaced with smaller ones.
pholak
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17. February 2003 @ 04:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
AIDEN and seamonkey, here is something you will find useful...or so I hope...

Some DVD Burners set their "burn bit" to DVD-ROM and that's fine. DVD-ROM is expected by all stand alone players and gameboxes. HP burners are set to it by default but not Philips's (I use DVDRW228). Use this little utility (link below) to change that and enjoy your backup copies..:)))

http://www.dvdplusrw.org/files/dvdbitsetter2113.zip

pholak
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17. February 2003 @ 06:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have fairly good knowledge on DVD systems and duplication etc. Unfortunately know nothing about xbox or playstation2 game "back ups". Can anyone of you fine gentlemen help me out please.
There is a lot of publications (contradicting statements) on this subject and I have hard time making something out of it. Please help or point me to the right spot, much appreciated...

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17. February 2003 @ 21:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wow, this thread got bigger.. hehe..

ok some replies (to the extent of my knowledge):

re: phreak: thanks for the info, i wish i knew more about coding! oh well.. i guess i'll need to learn..

re:padair: xbox games vary. some are 600mbs and only dvd-5 while others are huge like metal gear solid 2 : substance is 6GBs (DVD-9). Dual layered backups, your best bet would be to just put those games on your xbox harddrive or keep a copy on your pc so you can just transfer the gaem to the xbox when you want to play it. i'll work on finding more about dvd-9 games..

re: Pholak: i don't know much about PS2 but i do know a bit about xbox games. xbox games are made to be read from the xbox's dvd drive outside-in; ms claims it allows for faster read times, etc.. so when you put the xbox game into a pc dvd drive, you'll only see like a movie dvd structure (audio_ts and video_ts folders). to backup games you have to read the games through the xbox dvd drive via a FTP connection. Evolution x dashboard allows for this, its a replacement dashboard that works on modded xbox's; this is THE dashboard to use.

phew. i needa a smoke after all that typing. hope the helps everyone out, as always, got a ? just post it!

peace
seamonkey420

oh yea, check out my sign. for more info..

as for links to bios files and stuff, i dont' have links for legality reasons and i dont' want micro$oft after me, but i can give ya hint if you PM me.


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jcburf
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18. February 2003 @ 04:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i was wondering about the whole dvd9 thing. why doesn't some company make blank dvd9-rw? I know they would cost a little more but I'd much rather pay a little more than try to convert it or save to my HD. It be a godsend for game backups.

Does a company make them?
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18. February 2003 @ 14:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DVD9's are not "burned" they are made by a special machine that presses the information onto a clear plastic disc which together become a DVD. No personal DVD burner can do this type of process. So you cannot purchase a DVD-9, becuase if you could you still couldn't do anything with it.
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19. February 2003 @ 07:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sorry dextrs lab, as of feb 17 the licence for blue laser technology has been passed. it wont be long before there readly available.
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padair
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19. February 2003 @ 07:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
AIDEN, i've researched your comments regarding "Blue-Laser" technology and I have found some very interesting facts. However no where has it mentioned that current standalone DVD players will be able to read these discs. Standard dual layer DVDs are aprox 9.4 (i'm sure you already know that) but most articles on the blue-laser discs mention 20-27GB per side of a disc.

Do you have any info/links regarding the new blue-laser technology compatability with existing dvd drives/products?
 
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