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Denon AVR-2805 vs Yamaha RX-V750
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hammer931
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24. November 2004 @ 11:17 |
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Can anyone recommend which receiver is better. I'm looking at buying one of these receivers. They both run around 400 dollars. Thanks Also what would be some good speakers to go with this outfit...
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erickwan
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26. November 2004 @ 03:43 |
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hammer931
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26. November 2004 @ 10:28 |
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can any recommend which receiver to purchase the Denon AVR-2805 or the Yamaha RXV-750. Both are arond 400 dolars
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Razz1234
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26. November 2004 @ 11:49 |
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I would deffinately go with the Denon 2805, that is if you can get it for around $400. That's a fantastic deal and an incredible reciever.
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Razz1234
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26. November 2004 @ 11:52 |
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Oh, Check out Paradigm for your speakers as well.... they have been in the "best buy" dollar for dollar to so many publications and for so long you can't go wrong.. It all depends on how much you want to spend!
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hammer931
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1. December 2004 @ 10:08 |
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Does anyone know if Klipsch speakers are as good as Paradigm.
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Razz1234
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1. December 2004 @ 14:58 |
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Most Klipsch speakers use a "horn" for there tweeter...this "typically" does not sound as good or percise as conventional dome tweeters but the advatage is... LOUD SOUND.. they can be played at much louder sounds than others...
The Klipsch reference line is very good but I have had the opertunity to listen them at a local store directly next to Paradigms "reference" series and there was no comparison..all the sales guys agreed with me. Both used all the same equipment and cables, just a simple switch box to control the speakers. Paradigms "Reference" is Far supperior in sound, quality, and looks. I thought the paradigm "monitor" series were more of a sound equivilant to the Klipsch "reference" series. And Paradigm was far less expessive comparing those lines.
Check out Paradigms home page and all there awards.. very impressive!
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bnieman
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5. December 2004 @ 12:06 |
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If I may ask, where can I purchase the Denon AVR-2805 for $400? Cheapest I can find is $600. Any help would be appreciated, THANKS!
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hammer931
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6. December 2004 @ 10:26 |
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I appolagize, The price on Pricegrabber.com was 550.00
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Razz1234
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6. December 2004 @ 10:37 |
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that is still a great price and worth every penny. I know that reciever personaly (my friend owns it) and have read many reviews that are all "Highly recommended"
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hammer931
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7. December 2004 @ 11:10 |
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Hey Razz1234 what kind of speakers do you recommend for the receiver, have you done any shopping around??
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RCBabcock
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9. December 2004 @ 00:42 |
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I'd go with the Denon. I also don't care that much for horn speakers, but the top models from Klipsch at least do horn loading properly. Monitor Audio speakers sound great with Denon receivers- there's some real synergy at work there.
Be wary buying Denon, though, from a non-authorized dealer. If you do so, you may get a great price, but Denon will not honor the warranty. If you get a low enough price, it may be worth the risk. Normally I'm a big fan of buying online, but on a Denon unit, I'd buy that from a local authorized dealer. Caveat emptor.
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Razz1234
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10. December 2004 @ 11:19 |
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monitor audio speakers do sound good. And that is some very good advise RC.
Personaly, I have Paradigm "Reference" speakers all around and the Servo 15 Sub. So I'm kind of partial to the paradigm speakers. I have a Denon unit 3805 and it's a wonderful set up, Denon makes a top notch reciever...It's kind of pricey (for me)but i felt that it is very much worth it. The 2805 is a great buy for the dollar.
Many people look into setting up a home theater in their house and GREATLY underestimate the importance of GOOD SOUND. It has soooo much effect in the movie.
I still would highly recommend the Denon and Paradigm speakers... Stretch you pocket book with these! You'll be glad you did! I know too many people who have bought speakers and then said to me, "now i wish i would have gone for the better speakers" or "I want to upgrade them now".... It's usually after having a decent set up that people start to realize how good sound can be. Most people who just opted for the "home theater in a box" don't realize what they are missing so it doesn't really matter to them (no offence people). But with a nice reciever such as the Denon 2805 you will know the difference in your speakers for sure.....so go BIG!
Let me know what you decide.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 10. December 2004 @ 11:24
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ghost640
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13. December 2004 @ 04:48 |
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Hi all,
I've also been looking at the Denon's 2805 vs 3805. I've decided the 2805 has all the features I need, I'll put the rest of my $$ into speakers.
But a question - do any of you have experience with refurbished units? I've found a 2805 from an authorized dealer listed as a BStock unit. It was refurbished by Denon, so it should be in good working order, but not sure how it would compare to a NIB unit.
Thanks!
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Razz1234
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13. December 2004 @ 17:36 |
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Ghost,
I have always bought new units and was a little too worried about the "B-stock" when it came to my equipment.
But the 3805 that I own, I actually bought on e-bay as a "b-stock" unit. One thing though....
Go to Denon's web site and make sure the dealer is listed there as an authorized dealer
here is the site,
http://www.usa.denon.com/dealers/dealers.asp?l=1#REFURB
Many dealers will tell you they are an authorized Denon dealer and they really aren't. So if something goes wrong they will end up feeding you a line of BS and you will end up reaching deep into your pocket.
I bought mine from dakmart.com through ebay and mine arived in tip top shape, no problems, and a great buy. It has a year warrenty backed by Denon, they are listed at Denon as an authorized "b-stock" dealer. But, if i had a problem with the unit, i would still have to pay for shipping.... and on the 3805 thats a lot. Thats why i used to always stay with a local shop.
Still, Take RC's advice and beware.
The 2805 is a fantastic reciever and you will be very happy with it.
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ghost640
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14. December 2004 @ 05:00 |
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Razz, thanks much, I appreciate your comments. Dakmart is the site I've been visiting 2-3 times per day for the past week or so... I'm really happy to hear that yours came in good shape, that was really a key consideration. Today might have to be the day! I was bouncing between the 3805 and 2805, but they both received excellent reviews, and I'm working with a relatively small space.
So can I get into a set of Paradigms for around 1K? I guess I need a center, fronts, and 2 or 3 rear speakers (are 3 rears necessary). Or any other good alternatives in that price range? I already have a subwoofer, picked up the Outlaw's LFM-1 earlier this year, dynamite piece of equipment.
Thx again,
Ghost
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ghost640
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14. December 2004 @ 06:59 |
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Razz1234
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14. December 2004 @ 07:02 |
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Ghost,
Sounds like you have a good plan. If your working with a 1k budget and you have a medium/small space i would recommend going with the 2805 and only 2 surrounds.
If your main consideration is Home Theater, then consider bipole/dipole speakers for your surrounds (They will cost you more).
Your in good shape if you already have a good sub. All that is left for you is to try out some speakers.
Don't buy speakers without listnening to them first
go to you local speaker guy (or not so local) and LISTEN to the differences in speaker. You can't do this at a department store, there is too much background and other distracting noice there. Also, most department stores will not use the same connections and equipment on all speakers. Local speaker guys will set it up so you can compare speaker to speaker. Most local guys will even have there own listening rooms.
Take your time and bring familiar listening music with you
And don't buy anything on your first visit.
I can't tell you what exactly to buy people like different sounds from different speakers, and looks!
Let us know what you got.
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ghost640
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14. December 2004 @ 10:21 |
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OK, I've got a 2805 on the way. I'm jazzed!
Turns out the one high end audio place in town is a Paradigm dealer, so I'll get a chance to check out some systems under good listening conditions.
This is for an HT system, found some interesting reading on bi/dipole, and one on speaker placement:
http://www.jamo.de/consumer/placementguide/
Our couch is up against the back wall of the room, so we'll definitely need something that can 'scatter' the sound.
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hammer931
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17. December 2004 @ 10:53 |
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can anyone suggest outdoor speakers to go with the denon receiver. It is 7.1 so I need to do something with the other 2. I only want to setup 5.1
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Razz1234
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18. December 2004 @ 10:04 |
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not sure about outdoor speakers.
I ran two outdoor as well and left a 5.1 inside. It's so nice, you can play all 7 on stereo or switch too have two different source on at the same time.
I play XBOX inside on Dolby Digital 5.1 and the wife listens to CD/music stations/or radio out side..... Such a great feature!!!!!!
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orpheus01
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7. January 2005 @ 12:13 |
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I am new .. so ..
I want to replace my Onkyo DS555 and may be my Polk RMSS 6500 - depending on how they sound with the replacement receiver. Through some research I've been looking at the Yamaha RX-V2400, Onkyo TX-SR702 and now (thanks to you guys) the Denon AVR-3805. Audioholics and Home Theater seem to love the Yamaha. From the thread(?) the Denon seems to be favored.
I am looking for experience to help direct me in the right direction. Any words of wisdom?
Thank you in advance.
Michael
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jetyi83
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8. January 2005 @ 02:41 |
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dont know too much about which receiver is better, but i did just buy a harmon kardon avr 335. The styling is awesome, and it seems pretty nice so far. got it for 500 after shipping and everything, it came out for 800 in october.
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Razz1234
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9. January 2005 @ 17:27 |
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I am not a fan of Onkyo, I would go with the Denon because I'm a big Denon fan.....ease of use, performance, it has it all... the Denon 3805 is VERY hard to beat!!!! It truely is a top notch reciever! Check out review of all your recievers here...
http://audioreview.com/
Denon usually comes up as one of the Best reviewed recievers out there.
I read many mags. and the Denon 3805 came up with many "best of the year" type deals for last year.
I can't recommend it enough!
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ghost640
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10. January 2005 @ 06:47 |
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I've been playing around with the 2805 for a week and am very impressed with it. It has a great number of options for various sound sources, and was relatively easy to set up. The ability for the receiver to calibrate itself with the supplied microphone is way cool.
Both the 3805 and 2805 have received excellent reviews in the stereo mags.
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