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Guide to Twilight Hack and Wiigator's Backup Launcher
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shydude11
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26. January 2009 @ 13:29 |
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okay let me see if this helps...
I had my system on 3.2 because i hadn't played it for a while. I installed the twilight crack and homebrew channel. From there I installed cIOS, but i can't remember the numbers, then I installed DVDx (IOS249). From there I upgraded to 3.4 and installed WiiGator .3 (the one in this thread) and none of the games seem to be working.
Any help?
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peterose
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26. January 2009 @ 14:53 |
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the only links it comes up with that match right on the money are for a pay site.
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26. January 2009 @ 17:12 |
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Originally posted by peterose:
the only links it comes up with that match right on the money are for a pay site.
Go HERE and go to the last link on the page (MEGAUPLOAD link).
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jjay66
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26. January 2009 @ 20:09 |
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Hi. I carried out the Twilight Hack & installed HBC on 34E firmware earlier in the week. I then followed a YouTube tutorial which included all relevant hacks and downloads (Wad Manager 1.1 & 1.3, ios downgrader 1.1 & 1.2, cios installer v.7, Shop Channel & ios52 installer & Starfall) & installed the Gamma Back up launcher.
This process involved downgrading to 32E which from reading this forum I gather isn't really necessary except for running Starfall.
I have checked and double checked & I appear to have done everything required. Having now burned 2 different PAL game ISO files to DVD-R, DVD+R and DVD-RW without success and starting the Backup Launcher from both HBC and the Wii menu channel I'm stuck for ideas.
Booting the discs from the launcher I get Disk Error 324 and "Rebooting with hooks" I get the green screen and "Unable to read Disc" at the Disc Channel.
I am a few nights in on this now and would be grateful for some suggestions. I have diligently searched the posts. Do you think that the downgrade to 32E could be the problem and if so would you recommend going back to 34E. If so must I remove/uninstall everything since the HBC installation.
I am running a Mac burning the ISO files @ 2x using Liquid CD and verifying discs.
HELP!
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iceman29
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26. January 2009 @ 21:03 |
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Originally posted by jjay66:
Hi. I carried out the Twilight Hack & installed HBC on 34E firmware earlier in the week. I then followed a YouTube tutorial which included all relevant hacks and downloads (Wad Manager 1.1 & 1.3, ios downgrader 1.1 & 1.2, cios installer v.7, Shop Channel & ios52 installer & Starfall) & installed the Gamma Back up launcher.
This process involved downgrading to 32E which from reading this forum I gather isn't really necessary except for running Starfall.
I have checked and double checked & I appear to have done everything required. Having now burned 2 different PAL game ISO files to DVD-R, DVD+R and DVD-RW without success and starting the Backup Launcher from both HBC and the Wii menu channel I'm stuck for ideas.
Booting the discs from the launcher I get Disk Error 324 and "Rebooting with hooks" I get the green screen and "Unable to read Disc" at the Disc Channel.
I am a few nights in on this now and would be grateful for some suggestions. I have diligently searched the posts. Do you think that the downgrade to 32E could be the problem and if so would you recommend going back to 34E. If so must I remove/uninstall everything since the HBC installation.
I am running a Mac burning the ISO files @ 2x using Liquid CD and verifying discs.
HELP!
Try burning the isos with imgburn on another pc and see what that does. Did you get any errors? I've noticed that some people thought they had CIOS installed when they actually got failed messages with the -1 on the screen. Downgrading is stupid, since this works perfect on 3.4. You should have installed ios 257, then ran the ios downgrader, then install ciosv7
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kevcal
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27. January 2009 @ 03:36 |
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Originally posted by jjay66:
Hi. I carried out the Twilight Hack & installed HBC on 34E firmware earlier in the week. I then followed a YouTube tutorial which included all relevant hacks and downloads (Wad Manager 1.1 & 1.3, ios downgrader 1.1 & 1.2, cios installer v.7, Shop Channel & ios52 installer & Starfall) & installed the Gamma Back up launcher.
This process involved downgrading to 32E which from reading this forum I gather isn't really necessary except for running Starfall.
I have checked and double checked & I appear to have done everything required. Having now burned 2 different PAL game ISO files to DVD-R, DVD+R and DVD-RW without success and starting the Backup Launcher from both HBC and the Wii menu channel I'm stuck for ideas.
Booting the discs from the launcher I get Disk Error 324 and "Rebooting with hooks" I get the green screen and "Unable to read Disc" at the Disc Channel.
I am a few nights in on this now and would be grateful for some suggestions. I have diligently searched the posts. Do you think that the downgrade to 32E could be the problem and if so would you recommend going back to 34E. If so must I remove/uninstall everything since the HBC installation.
I am running a Mac burning the ISO files @ 2x using Liquid CD and verifying discs.
HELP!
I was on 3.3e and I downgraded to 3.2e as I kept getting an error -1027(prob wrong number) when trying to install cios for backup launcher - I don't know if that was what fixed that problem, but I followed this tutorial (there's so many different methods unfortunately):
http://www.wiihacks.com/recommended-faqs-guides-tutorials/7199-3-1-3-4-twilight-downgrade-starfall-gammatutorial.html
and everything works (so far).
Kev
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iceman29
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27. January 2009 @ 08:05 |
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Originally posted by kevcal:
Originally posted by jjay66:
Hi. I carried out the Twilight Hack & installed HBC on 34E firmware earlier in the week. I then followed a YouTube tutorial which included all relevant hacks and downloads (Wad Manager 1.1 & 1.3, ios downgrader 1.1 & 1.2, cios installer v.7, Shop Channel & ios52 installer & Starfall) & installed the Gamma Back up launcher.
This process involved downgrading to 32E which from reading this forum I gather isn't really necessary except for running Starfall.
I have checked and double checked & I appear to have done everything required. Having now burned 2 different PAL game ISO files to DVD-R, DVD+R and DVD-RW without success and starting the Backup Launcher from both HBC and the Wii menu channel I'm stuck for ideas.
Booting the discs from the launcher I get Disk Error 324 and "Rebooting with hooks" I get the green screen and "Unable to read Disc" at the Disc Channel.
I am a few nights in on this now and would be grateful for some suggestions. I have diligently searched the posts. Do you think that the downgrade to 32E could be the problem and if so would you recommend going back to 34E. If so must I remove/uninstall everything since the HBC installation.
I am running a Mac burning the ISO files @ 2x using Liquid CD and verifying discs.
HELP!
I was on 3.3e and I downgraded to 3.2e as I kept getting an error -1027(prob wrong number) when trying to install cios for backup launcher - I don't know if that was what fixed that problem, but I followed this tutorial (there's so many different methods unfortunately):
http://www.wiihacks.com/recommended-faqs-guides-tutorials/7199-3-1-3-4-twilight-downgrade-starfall-gammatutorial.html
and everything works (so far).
Kev
You didn't need to downgrade and it isn't recommended since it works perfectly fine on 3.3/3.4 You needed to install ios 257, then run the ios downgrader, then install ciosv7
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tsleight
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27. January 2009 @ 08:32 |
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Hello to you all.....
I am seeing a problem, I am running rev 3.2E and i have installed homebrew channel and the backup loader (gator) however, when i run the app to start a backup game i get a error message that is all jumbled up. antone please help me....
thanks
TJ
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iceman29
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27. January 2009 @ 08:54 |
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Originally posted by tsleight:
Hello to you all.....
I am seeing a problem, I am running rev 3.2E and i have installed homebrew channel and the backup loader (gator) however, when i run the app to start a backup game i get a error message that is all jumbled up. antone please help me....
thanks
TJ
First, from personal experience I would upgrade to 3.4. I have modded 4 wii's and going on #5 this week with no problems. Being on 3.4 has benefits for the future and future games that come out. Get that installed, run the oct 23rd fix, and install ciosv7 with wii gator. Then you'll be more than happy.
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shydude11
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27. January 2009 @ 16:22 |
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where do you find the october 23rd fix and the install files?
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iceman29
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27. January 2009 @ 16:55 |
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Originally posted by shydude11:
where do you find the october 23rd fix and the install files?
Read the guide. You'll need to google for the files. They are everyway. I got mine off of mininova.org
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jjay66
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27. January 2009 @ 19:05 |
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Cheers for the response KevCal - sounds like you have sorted your problem out.
Iceman, Yeah I know that I didn't need to downgrade now but like I said I followed a tutorial and here I am. All the other files you refer to I have installed. Would being on 3.4E explain the disc error though??
I would happily upgrade back to 3.4E but just want to know if this will affect the other files I've installed - Wad Managers. downgraders etc.?
I feel like I want to clean install everything. I assume that those files that cannot be uninstalled using Wad Manager can just be deleted from SD card. Is this right? I don't want to remove some critical functionality yet don't want my folders littered with obsolete or unnecessary files!
Like most people browsing this thread we are here because we have received conflicting information, partly because some is out of date and partly because there are multiple tutorials out there that seem to work for some people. Not me so far!!
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jjay66
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27. January 2009 @ 19:10 |
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Sorry I meant:
"Would being on 3.2E explain the disc errors"...
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shydude11
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27. January 2009 @ 19:28 |
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I got mine working, I deleted everything and reinstalled Homebrew Beta 9 using the twilight crack. From there I installed 2 Wads and WiiGator Gamma, and everything is working fine now. Thank for everybody that helped me out!
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jjay66
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27. January 2009 @ 22:44 |
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Hey KevCal I checked out the link you posted for that tutorial and it's the same one I used (although form a different source) with identical files.
Frankly being new to the Wii I'm not completely sure why 3.4E is deemed Satan!
Is it possible to remove Starfall (I read about AnyTitleDeleter from Homebrew channel) and if not will it have an adverse effect if I upgrade back to 34E?
Can someone deal with the 3.4E v 3.2E question once and for all?
Beginning to think that problem may lay in disc burning. Using a Mac with LiquidCD and verifying disks though!
I will try to run the ISO off a PC and compare.
Christ this has been a hell of a performance. If I was getting paid for this much research it would have paid for every game I'm after and some.....
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iceman29
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28. January 2009 @ 10:34 |
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Originally posted by jjay66:
Hey KevCal I checked out the link you posted for that tutorial and it's the same one I used (although form a different source) with identical files.
Frankly being new to the Wii I'm not completely sure why 3.4E is deemed Satan!
Is it possible to remove Starfall (I read about AnyTitleDeleter from Homebrew channel) and if not will it have an adverse effect if I upgrade back to 34E?
Can someone deal with the 3.4E v 3.2E question once and for all?
Beginning to think that problem may lay in disc burning. Using a Mac with LiquidCD and verifying disks though!
I will try to run the ISO off a PC and compare.
Christ this has been a hell of a performance. If I was getting paid for this much research it would have paid for every game I'm after and some.....
I have created a newer guide for 3.4 here:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/744194
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jjay66
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29. January 2009 @ 04:23 |
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Great! Nice update for fresh hackers Iceman - couldn't be easier.
For my issues turns out that it was a media problem. I've been through 5 different DVD types but the only ones that work for me are Verbatim DVD-R 16x (burn at 2x).
I am still running 3.2E because I am not sure if I can upgrade safely with Starfall installed and don't know how to remove Starfall yet. Cross that bridge when we come to it I guess.
Enjoying games now though so thanks to all those who contribute time and effort on these forums. Respect!
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kevcal
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30. January 2009 @ 01:02 |
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Originally posted by jjay66:
Great! Nice update for fresh hackers Iceman - couldn't be easier.
For my issues turns out that it was a media problem. I've been through 5 different DVD types but the only ones that work for me are Verbatim DVD-R 16x (burn at 2x).
I am still running 3.2E because I am not sure if I can upgrade safely with Starfall installed and don't know how to remove Starfall yet. Cross that bridge when we come to it I guess.
Enjoying games now though so thanks to all those who contribute time and effort on these forums. Respect!
Sounds like we're in exactly the same position at the moment - thanks to iceman for the updated post - that will come in very useful when I can face messing with the Wii again, however as you say, currently I appear to have no reason to update to 3.4e (although it would be nice to) as my backups work fine at the moment and haven't seen any new games I'm interested in at the mo.. I'm sure that will change :)
The afterdawn forum is imo one of the most useful I belong to due to the helpfulness of posters.
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30. January 2009 @ 11:24 |
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There is no reason to update to 3.4 firmware. All games currently out can run off 3.2 and above firmware without updating to latest 3.4 menu firmware.
There are a few games with hardware updates that need to be installed but it is as simple as installing the hardware update WAD file and skipping the Wii Menu update all together.
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iceman29
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30. January 2009 @ 11:40 |
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Originally posted by larrylje:
There is no reason to update to 3.4 firmware. All games currently out can run off 3.2 and above firmware without updating to latest 3.4 menu firmware.
There are a few games with hardware updates that need to be installed but it is as simple as installing the hardware update WAD file and skipping the Wii Menu update all together.
why mess with all that when 3.4 works perfect? The normal end user wants it simple and usually all the way up to date. I have modded 6 wii's now on 3.4 and all games I have played have worked. Plus, the end user loves when they know they are most update to date. The guide with the 3.4 only makes most sense and will be less hassle in the future. 3.2 isn't going to last forever since it's now 2 firmware updates behind. This is like saying you don't need Service pack 2 for XP since it still works.
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30. January 2009 @ 11:53 |
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Originally posted by iceman29:
Originally posted by larrylje:
There is no reason to update to 3.4 firmware. All games currently out can run off 3.2 and above firmware without updating to latest 3.4 menu firmware.
There are a few games with hardware updates that need to be installed but it is as simple as installing the hardware update WAD file and skipping the Wii Menu update all together.
why mess with all that when 3.4 works perfect? The normal end user wants it simple and usually all the way up to date. I have modded 6 wii's now on 3.4 and all games I have played have worked. Plus, the end user loves when they know they are most update to date. The guide with the 3.4 only makes most sense and will be less hassle in the future. 3.2 isn't going to last forever since it's now 2 firmware updates behind. This is like saying you don't need Service pack 2 for XP since it still works.
You say it is simple but yet you tell users to update to 3.4 and force them to go through multipule other steps to FIX the WAD/cIOS limitation that 3.4 firmware puts on the system.
Lets look at the steps it takes to get the Gamma boot loader working on a 3.2 firmware system and a 3.4 firmware system...
3.2/3.3 before OCT 23rd System...
Run Zelda Exploit and install HBC.
Start HBC and run the cIOS installer.
Run HBC and boot game via Gamma Boot Loader.
3.4 firmware...
Update if your on 3.3 or below
Run Zelda Exploit and install HBC.
Run custom manager 1.3
Install CIOS_Fix.WAD
Install Wii gator.wad
Run IOS downgrader
Install cIOS
Boot game via Gamma Channel
Seems to me there are less steps and just as easy staying at 3.2 rather then updating to 3.4 Plus not everyone wants to go to 3.4 that is why I have given the choice in the guide I made.
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iceman29
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30. January 2009 @ 12:25 |
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Originally posted by larrylje:
Originally posted by iceman29:
Originally posted by larrylje:
There is no reason to update to 3.4 firmware. All games currently out can run off 3.2 and above firmware without updating to latest 3.4 menu firmware.
There are a few games with hardware updates that need to be installed but it is as simple as installing the hardware update WAD file and skipping the Wii Menu update all together.
why mess with all that when 3.4 works perfect? The normal end user wants it simple and usually all the way up to date. I have modded 6 wii's now on 3.4 and all games I have played have worked. Plus, the end user loves when they know they are most update to date. The guide with the 3.4 only makes most sense and will be less hassle in the future. 3.2 isn't going to last forever since it's now 2 firmware updates behind. This is like saying you don't need Service pack 2 for XP since it still works.
You say it is simple but yet you tell users to update to 3.4 and force them to go through multipule other steps to FIX the WAD/cIOS limitation that 3.4 firmware puts on the system.
Lets look at the steps it takes to get the Gamma boot loader working on a 3.2 firmware system and a 3.4 firmware system...
3.2/3.3 before OCT 23rd System...
Run Zelda Exploit and install HBC.
Start HBC and run the cIOS installer.
Run HBC and boot game via Gamma Boot Loader.
3.4 firmware...
Update if your on 3.3 or below
Run Zelda Exploit and install HBC.
Run custom manager 1.3
Install CIOS_Fix.WAD
Install Wii gator.wad
Run IOS downgrader
Install cIOS
Boot game via Gamma Channel
Seems to me there are less steps and just as easy staying at 3.2 rather then updating to 3.4 Plus not everyone wants to go to 3.4 that is why I have given the choice in the guide I made.
Larry,
I don't understand why people wouldn't want to be on 3.4. What doesn't work in 3.4 that works on 3.2? A few extra easy steps to make it work in 3.4 is worth it since 3.2 isn't going to work forever. What happens when more games come out? It's take the steps now and have less steps later. When more games come out, they are going to have to brick block, region block, and block updates with other programs so they can play. So, what's the difference in saving time and not go through the hassle later?
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30. January 2009 @ 12:37 |
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I already told you why some users don't want to go to 3.2 firmware. I'm not going to repeat myself.
The fact is there are those that want to stick with 3.2 firmware so who are we to say otherwise. Doing the steps for 3.2 firmware works perfectly fine. So why update if they don't want to.
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senzafine
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31. January 2009 @ 19:08 |
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I am with larry, we dont need to discuss firmware politics etc...
This thread is to hep people with the installation of wiigator's loader.
And if you don't understand why people dont want to update, then clearly you don't understand what the main ethic of the homebrew community.
"If it aint broke, why fix it", my suggestion to you is to update as often as possible.
Tippeee Kay Yay
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iceman29
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31. January 2009 @ 19:47 |
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Originally posted by senzafine:
I am with larry, we dont need to discuss firmware politics etc...
This thread is to hep people with the installation of wiigator's loader.
And if you don't understand why people dont want to update, then clearly you don't understand what the main ethic of the homebrew community.
"If it aint broke, why fix it", my suggestion to you is to update as often as possible.
You guys are missing the point. I am not saying it won't work....right now that is. You are going to have to update sooner or later. So why not now since it works anyway? Then it's less hassle for later. No you don't have to right now, but you'll be glad you got it over with. To play newer games that require 3.4, you are making the same amount of work by getting different IOS files, etc that way. To me, 3.2 has no benefits compared to 3.4. 3.4 is newer and up to date which is what my users want. You may want different. This is just my 2 cents
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