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anesthea
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27. November 2004 @ 20:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm running Windows 2000 and have a LiteOn JLMS XJ-HD 166S 16x/48x dvd-rom drive that has suddenly stopped working. It won't recognize any discs (cd, dvd, or otherwise), but there doesn't seem to be a problem with my computer recognizing the drive itself (I get a continuous error: "No disc inserted" etc). I use CyberLink Power DVD 4 and I ran a diagnostic on the dvd-rom via that program. I also installed what I think may have been a driver update from the JLMS website, as well as a patch from the CyberLink site. I even tried to use a cd-rom lens cleaner - it wouldn't even recognize that. I'm stumped! Is there anything else I can do (other drivers, other diagnostics, anything?) besides trash the thing? It's only a year old. I hate to fork out the money for another one already. Ugh.
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27. November 2004 @ 20:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Try this:

Go to Device Manager >

Expand the tree for DVD/CD ROM Drives >

Find the drive in question, right click it and go to Properties >

Under the Driver tab, select Uninstall then OK.

Now reboot and Windows should detect and reinstall the drive.

If this doesn't help try the same steps as above except expand the tree for IDE ATA/ATA Controllers and uninstall either the Primary or Secondary controller depending on which one the drive in question is attatched to. Nero Info Tool can tell you which chain the drive is on under the Configuration tab.

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/nero_info_tool.cfm



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anesthea
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28. November 2004 @ 03:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I did both of the things you suggested and am having the same problem as before. Ugh. But, thanks for your help. I appreciate it. :)
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28. November 2004 @ 08:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Have you tried the drive in another PC?

I've a 166S as well that I've used heavily for the last two years and it's still going strong.



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24. December 2004 @ 22:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You could always try a firmware update.
Go here to get MtkFlash:
http://dhc014.rpc1.org/howto.htm#Download
You don't necessarily need a bootable flasher, but I definitely recommend it. You also should make sure to get v1.55, as it seems to work better than the new one.
Then get the binary firmware (.bin file) from here:
http://digi.rpc1.org/binaries.php
It's under the column "xj-hd/ltd166s"
As for the MS-DOS boot disk, I know that atleast in XP, when you open the disk format dialogue, you get a checkbox for "Make MS-DOS boot disk." You check that, then format it. Put the mtkflash.exe file on the floppy, along with a copy of the firmware .bin, and then write down the name of the .bin and reboot. I would print out the instructions for flashing and backing up before attempting as well.
I had to find this out because I've got a rebadged LiteOn 166S that says StarLogic on it, but I flashed the new DS1E firmware using this method and now it can read +R and just works better.

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anesthea
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30. December 2004 @ 16:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i'm sorry. i have no idea what you are talking about. could you break that down into simpler terms for me? or give a little more info? if this is some sort of backup thing, will it overwrite anything on the harddrive or will this just do something to the drive itself? i'm confused.
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30. December 2004 @ 18:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry for being confusing :)
MtkFlash is a bootable drive firmware flasher. It will only rewrite the firmware that is stored in the drive's flash memory. The firmware is basically what the drive uses to operate. If it has none or if it is corrupted, then it will behave oddly. I would normally recommend backing up your current firmware, but it seems that it wouldn't really do any good, seeing as how it is probably screwed up anyway. All you have to do is make an MS-DOS boot floppy, download the MtkFlash program (I recommend 1.55 as this one worked on mine), then download 'DS1E' from the link I gave you (make sure it's under xj-hd/ltd166s). Then put both MtkFlash.exe and DS1E.BIN on the floppy with MS-DOS. Then you can basically follow this guide here: http://digi.rpc1.org/mtkflash.htm. Just use the commands given to reflash your firmware (and backup firmware if you want). You may have to change the boot order in your BIOS to boot from floppy before HD. I can't go into specifics on that right now as I cannot see my BIOS but I will give details at a later time.
I hope you are not confused with this ;)
anesthea
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31. December 2004 @ 04:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok. On the binary firmware...

On the site you linked:

In the column "xj-hd/ltd166s" there are a number of links listed (DS0B DS0E, etc). Do I download all of them or is there a specific one I need?

Sorry to be so much trouble. I do appreciate your help and effort on this!

Thanks!
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31. December 2004 @ 05:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would recommend to get the newest one, the one called "DS1E," as I stated before. If it doesn't work then try an older one, but it should work just fine.

Abit AN8 nForce4 2000MHz FSB
XFX GeForce 6600GT 128MB PCI-E
AMD Athlon64 3700+ 2.42GHz 1MB L2
Plextor PX-712A rev.1.07 RPC1 FW
74GB WD 10,000 RPM 8MB
1024MB SDRAM 400MHz
Windows XP x64 Edition SP1

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anesthea
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31. December 2004 @ 16:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I flashed the drive, but I'm still having the same problems as before. I'm stumped.

Thanks for all of your help and instructions. ^_^
ddp
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2. January 2005 @ 07:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
is there an exclamation mark in device manager??
anesthea
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2. January 2005 @ 14:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
no, there isn't.
daemonzx6
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2. January 2005 @ 16:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well that would imply that it is working properly. This is getting odd, I would think by now we've eliminated all possibilities.
Sorry the flashing didn't work.
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2. January 2005 @ 16:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
have you tried what Nephilim suggested in trying drive in another pc
anesthea
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2. January 2005 @ 17:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't have another pc to put in into. I opened the tower up this evening again and re-checked my connections. No problems there that I could find. Except maybe that the drive makes a little more noise now when it tries to work. It's like the drive knows there's a cd or dvd in there and knows that it's supposed to be doing something but it just can't do it.
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3. January 2005 @ 12:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
is cd/dvd burner on primary or secondary cable, if secondary, is it single or with another drive & what is jumper settings for drives
anesthea
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3. January 2005 @ 12:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the dvd-rom is the master on the secondary IDE. my cd-rom/burner is the slave on the secondary IDE. my harddrive is on the primary IDE.
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3. January 2005 @ 12:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
put cd burner as slave to hd to see if any change to dvdrom drive
anesthea
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3. January 2005 @ 13:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i tried to do that and screwed things up. i've got things back to normal except now the green light on my floppy drive stays on even without a disk in there. erk!

is there a diagram available to show the IDE's and stuff and their connection order?

edit: crap! now my dvd-drive isn't showing up. i have really messed things up. help!

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daemonzx6
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3. January 2005 @ 19:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You may have to adjust the jumpers on each drive to make sure they have a master and slave on both.
anesthea
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3. January 2005 @ 19:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i didn't change the jumpers (that I know of), i just switched the IDE connections around, then got lost and tried to put them back the way they were to begin with. i got them partly right on my last go-round because the computer booted up. i guess i'll take the thing apart again tomorrow and see what happens. wish me luck! hehe
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3. January 2005 @ 19:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For what it's worth this link may clear up some confusion:

http://www.helpwithpcs.com/upgrading/installing_cd_recorder.htm



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4. January 2005 @ 11:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Personally i would unplug both dvd/cd drives and the harddrive. Then i would clear the bios or reset it to defaults.

The config i have always used because you dont want to mess around with the recorder.

Primary IDE 0 - Set the Hardrive as master, and your cd/dvd reader as the slave.

Secondary IDE 1 - Set the recorder as the master. I always let any recorder have its own cable this seems to stop coasters i have not had one in months

After that nip into the bios and check that it all looks good.

Hope this helps!
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4. January 2005 @ 11:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And i forgot to say the Green light on the floppy stays on because you have put the cable in wrong. It happened to me. One of the ends can go in either way so turn it around.
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