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fee
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12. December 2004 @ 10:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK, here's the ultra-n00b question of the week:

What are the pros/cons of using a SM disk (of course with the necessary sensor mods done) and a mod chip (keep in mind the extra mods that need to be done to avoid laser damage for some of the chips with the slim PS2). I'm looking for performance advantages/issues, compatibility with different media types, potential damage caused to either the PSTwo or the discs, etc.

I'm guessing opinions might be biased in this forum so I've posted in both HW boot and SW boot forums.

Thanks a bunch

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Deimos218
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12. December 2004 @ 13:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well i would have to definetly recommend swap magic, i havent had a problem yet i usually use a company called ridata they have really good media. Im sure there are advantages of a mod chip over swap magic such as not having to swap disks before playing every time.
ciderv2
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12. December 2004 @ 19:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i'd recommending getting the ps2 lid to use witht he sm discs

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easy123
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19. December 2004 @ 16:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
does swap magic 3.3 supports dvd+r backup games??
ciderv2
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19. December 2004 @ 19:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
as far as i know, dvd-r is the best format to use for backups, i've heard a lot of people having problems with any other formats.

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athlon xp 2700+ / 1gb pc2700 / 256 radeon 9600 pro / nec nd-2510a / 5.1 logitech z640
EdChung
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20. December 2004 @ 03:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wut i did is that i have SM and HdAdvance so if they don't work on hd then i use SM to play. I think this is the best way without modding your ps2 to prevent laser waring
vrg
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20. December 2004 @ 11:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all,
I have read somewhere that action replay 2 can be used instaed of swap magic. Does this work with PSTwo (V12).? Did any one try using this or Action Replay Max instead of Swap magic ?


vrg
Deimos218
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22. December 2004 @ 14:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I havent had any problems with using dvd+r's the only problems i have are finding rentals to copy that arent scratched to hell.
ag22
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26. December 2004 @ 07:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just got a PStwo (slim) and I decided to mod my first console ever. I am familiar with the PS2 mod chip termanology (as far as I know), but I dont know which type of mod to gt with my PStwo. You guys are talking about the swap magic, but I dont know how that works on a PStwo, since its already top loading. Also I dont know what 'sensors' you guys are referring to. And as for a chip, I have never soldered anything before, and yoyu guys said you had to use a special laser or spmething. NE help would B good help. Thanx

Compaq computer- $1200
Dell computer- $500
monitor- $150
DVD burner- $100
PS2- $300
Xbox- $150
PSTwo- $150
Wirless kit- $50
The pain and frustration I go through with all of this Crap- priceless. Some things in life are free... others suck...
Deimos218
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26. December 2004 @ 14:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What ps2 are you talking about? the slim version? if so i didnt know those had top loading. But if they do it works out even better for you because then you dont have to buy a flip top case all you have to buy is swap magic www.swapnslide.com is a good place to purchase swapmagic.
ag22
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26. December 2004 @ 18:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No, u cant do that becuz the PS2 slim has sensors on it, and when you open the square piece the sensors arent pushed in (kinda like the light on a refridgerator (SP). The swap magic ones are circular so the sensors are always pushed down but Im worried if it will ruin my console.

Compaq computer- $1200
Dell computer- $500
monitor- $150
DVD burner- $100
PS2- $300
Xbox- $150
PSTwo- $150
Wirless kit- $50
The pain and frustration I go through with all of this Crap- priceless. Some things in life are free... others suck...
vrg
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27. December 2004 @ 01:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi ag22
If you want to know how to activate the sensors to use swapmagic then check this page.
http://www.swapmagic3.com/



vrg
Graphix
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27. December 2004 @ 08:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I too am really interesting in knowing objective opinions about both the advantages and disadvantages of these two possibilities.

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ag22
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27. December 2004 @ 10:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Great post! I was gonna buy the lid from http://www.ps2fliptop.net/buy_magic_switch.htm
but that voids the warranty and this is much easier. Also free.

Compaq computer- $1200
Dell computer- $500
monitor- $150
DVD burner- $100
PS2- $300
Xbox- $150
PSTwo- $150
Wirless kit- $50
The pain and frustration I go through with all of this Crap- priceless. Some things in life are free... others suck...
Deimos218
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27. December 2004 @ 14:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
never knew about those sensors good to know though.I recommend swap magic though havent found a game yet that it doesnt work with. Good luck.
Graphix
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28. December 2004 @ 11:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Interesting replies!.. Anymore contributions?

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ag22
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28. December 2004 @ 17:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Whats the difference between the CDR and DVDR boot disc?

Compaq computer- $1200
Dell computer- $500
monitor- $150
DVD burner- $100
PS2- $300
Xbox- $150
PSTwo- $150
Wirless kit- $50
The pain and frustration I go through with all of this Crap- priceless. Some things in life are free... others suck...
ciderv2
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29. December 2004 @ 09:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cdr boot discs are for loading backup PS2 CD games, the dvd boot disks are for loading backup DVD games

ps2 v4 / clear-blue flip top / sm / 160gb maxtor / mc exploit
athlon xp 2700+ / 1gb pc2700 / 256 radeon 9600 pro / nec nd-2510a / 5.1 logitech z640
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30. December 2004 @ 14:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can BUY a magic switch which lets you use Swap Magic 3.3 on your PsTwo used it my self works great got it from was only £5:
http://consolemoduk.co.nr
ag22
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30. December 2004 @ 18:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That swap tool looks dangerous.
I rather just use straws, toliet paper, and maybe a house hold cleaning solution.


Compaq computer- $1200
Dell computer- $500
monitor- $150
DVD burner- $100
PS2- $300
Xbox- $150
PSTwo- $150
Wirless kit- $50
The pain and frustration I go through with all of this Crap- priceless. Some things in life are free... others suck...
MysTNitE
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31. December 2004 @ 08:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dangerous?? ide rather use the swap tool designed to fit into the ps2 then some straws and stuff like that. its made to fit into the specific spots. i think its great and i think ill be buying it soon.
Deimos218
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3. January 2005 @ 15:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
swap tool? what are you talking about? Do you mean slide tool? yeah im not a big fan of the slide tool either thats why i got the flip top case.
bob364860
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8. January 2005 @ 13:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does anybody know someone who can put a mod chip into a PS2 and works around the London area. I know of somebody who can do it for £90+£8 travel fees but I think this is too dear as I hear some mod chips cost as little as £7 to purchase.
Ludikhris
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8. January 2005 @ 22:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Maybe this will help your decision.

Sony sometimes fixes broken PS2s waiving the "fee" given there is no modification to the unit. This does not include voiding the warranty sticker. IT DOES INCLUDE MOD CHIPS. I use SM and had voided my warranty, but they fixed it np because i had it all back together like it was brand new (except the warrant sticker) So you may save yourself $100+ in PS2 repairs by choosing SM. Oh yeah and SM is almost as easy as Modchip, with a flip top its only one quick step, no fuss no muss.

Ludikhris
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9. January 2005 @ 09:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So, if I were to get Swap Magic 3.3 disks (I'm kinda worried about the quality of the disks, and from whom I should buy it from for good shipping (fast); I've heard a lot of people's 3.3 disks weren't working), should I use the tape method (I don't wanna spend any extra money), or should I go with the flip top lid? I don't wanna void my warranty...I didn't mention any of that magic switch/ghost switch shyt, because I feel as though they may crap up my PStwo, plus, I dunno much about 'em, especially the ghost switch (I mean: What the hell do they mean by doing just one simple "switch" you can play all your backups?).
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