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copying pc games
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twins2
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13. December 2004 @ 06:03 |
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Hi i've been trying to backup some of my pc games.
to keep the twins quiet on two computers. its keeps
coming up disc protected. i'm running on XP,nero 6.
someone told me about clone xl, but can't find the
site anywear. any help
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13. December 2004 @ 07:39 |
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Moved.
Backing up protected PC games isn't exactly a simple procedure. To make a working copy you need to use specialized software and use a burner that has the right burning characteristics. Here's a link to a thread that'll give you a rough idea of what's involved:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/117498
What make/model burner do you plan to use?
The first thing you can do is download A-Ray Scanner to identify the protections we'll be up against. The Clonny XXL that you're referring to is a protection scanner that hasn't been updated in a while so it's usefulness is quite diminished. Here's a link to A-Ray:
http://nephilim.ccsau.info/A-Ray2_Setup.exe
Post back with your make/model of drive and the protections we're dealing with and we'll go from there :)
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twins2
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13. December 2004 @ 08:42 |
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Hi thanks for answering. please understand i'm new to all this jargon,
information from disc The sims
safedisc 2/3
safedisc1.40.004.detected ->d:\dplayerx.dll
my computer is a E Machine3230
80gb
dvd+/-rw
256mb
xp windows
nero 6
shrink 3.2
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13. December 2004 @ 09:08 |
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There's definitely alot of jargon to learn isn't there? :)
Ok, we still need to get the exact make/model of your drive. Since you have Nero 6 it'll be easy. All you have to do is go into Nero Tool Kit from the Start Smart panel then run Nero Info Tool. The make/model of your drive will be listed in the drop down menu at the top as well as under the Configuration tab.
This is important because not all burners can make a working copy of protected games and the number of DVD burners that can do this is even smaller.
To give you a better understanding of what I'm talking about I'll explain a couple things. Unlike burning DVDs where the protection is stripped out, burning protected PC games involves having to read the protection then write it back to the disc - both of which need to be done very accurately. Not all burners are able to write the protections accurately enough to make a working copy......
When you try to run a protected game it needs to perform a "handshake" of sorts between the disc and the game on your hard drive to verify that the disc is legitimate. If the protection is written back to the disc accurately enough it'll pass the handshake and you have what's known as a "working" copy. If the copy is less than perfect the handshake will fail because the copy protection will detect that there's something fishy with the copy. In that case you can use emulation tools which basically help the disc pass the handshake process.
It's a bit of a challenge but with the right hardware, software and a little know-how you can get your copies to work one way or another :)
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twins2
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13. December 2004 @ 20:35 |
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hope this is what we need,
DRIVER INFORMATION
FILE SYSTEM: 32\drivers\at api.sys
DESCRIPTION IDE/ATAPI PORT DRIVER
VERSION 5.1.2600.116[XPSP1.020828-1920,[is this Nero 6]?
PROVIDER Microsoft Corporation
D:\-NEC DVD-RW ND-2500A
FOR GOT TO TELL YOU COMPUTER IS PENTIUM 4
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14. December 2004 @ 08:48 |
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Ok, so we're dealing with an NEC-2500A. Unfortunately it's not an EFM capable drive so we're probably not going to be able to make a working copy. I belive we may be able to make a copy with Alcohol 120% with its emulation options enabled.
Here's a link to a thread where geestar20 posted some screenshots and instructions:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/133549
I'm not well versed in the workings of Alcohol 120% since I rerely use it but if we need more help with it let me know and I can pm both geestar20 and pollushon who both know the ins and outs of A120 :)
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twins2
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14. December 2004 @ 09:13 |
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thanks for taking time out to help us,
will have a look for geestar& A120%
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14. December 2004 @ 10:25 |
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You have any questions Ill be in here looking :)
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camstuf
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14. December 2004 @ 19:54 |
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Emachines: T2865/AMD Athlon? XP 2800+ Processor (2.083 GHz)
NVIDIA® nForce?2/160 GB HDD/512 MB DDR (PC 2700)
DVD +/- RW Drive CD-ROM Drive; 3.5" 1.44MB FDD;
8-in-1 Media Reader/ This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. December 2004 @ 21:53
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twins2
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15. December 2004 @ 10:49 |
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Thanks Geestar and Camstuf,
i'm trying to make a copy of The Sims,[not sims 2]
all information about my computer is as above,
I need to be able to back up disc's so kids can just
load PC Games, and not start looking for different
programs,
I 've read up about Alcohol 120 %,
Have i got to enabled emulation every time we want to
play a backup game.
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15. December 2004 @ 12:28 |
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You do not need to enable emulation for every game you back up, but just leave it enabled just to be safe
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twins2
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8. January 2005 @ 11:16 |
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Hi geestar, i did your help again, i've copied the
game sims deluxe, all works find on new PC, COPY AND
original, but can't get copy to work on old PC,
I downloaded alcohol 52% & 120% on to my old PC and
tick box's in emulation but the copy game well not work any help,
Old PC is a pentium 3 running in windows 98 SE
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8. January 2005 @ 19:34 |
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The fact that the copy doesn't work on the other PC may have to do with the actual drive in the old PC. Some drives can't properly read an PC game backup. What make/model drive refused to read the backup?
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twins2
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9. January 2005 @ 10:33 |
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Hi nephilim. thanks for answering, my old PC is a
pentium 3 450 running on wins 98 SE 256mb,if you did
more information on my PC, could you direct me where to find this information.
the back up game starts up but crashes, then a error
message comes up saying something about a module
-DF394B.TMP file.
i installed the game from the original disc.
would that make a difference.
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9. January 2005 @ 20:48 |
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Sure sounds to me like the drive in your older PC is having a tough time reading the copy especially since the copy works perfectly in your main PC.
At what speed did you read and write the copy?
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The Forum Rules You Agreed To! http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487
"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
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twins2
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11. January 2005 @ 08:41 |
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read & write back up copy's in 4x,
today tried reading back up in 4x
then writing it in 32x times same thing happen
what do you recommend.
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11. January 2005 @ 08:55 |
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Well, I always resommend reading and writing at 4X, especially the write. Have you tried reinstalling the game from the original then trying the copy again? What happens if you try to run the game with the original?
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"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 11. January 2005 @ 08:55
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twins2
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14. January 2005 @ 09:17 |
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YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!,afther blood sweat and tears.
you crack it read & write at 4x load game with
back up copy all games work, can't thank you enough.
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