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burning slow - please help
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johnmark
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29. December 2004 @ 18:45 |
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I have read through all the previous posts and I am having a similar problem. Here is some back ground. I was running Win2000 when I bought my burner. I bought what I thought was a Sony DW-D18A, which I later learned was really a LiteON SOHW-832S. After much research on the web I learned that because my drive is gear driven that I could flash it as a Sony DRU 700a. I took this chance and it worked. I started burning discs at around 15 min. I'm using Nero Ultra Edition 6. Then I decided to upgrade to XP. Since I upgraded I can still burn but now it takes 50 min to an hour. After reading and researching again I installed the ASPI drivers and according to ASPICHK all is well, but according to Nero InfoTool all is not well. So I decided to uninstall the drive and then reboot. This did not help. Then I decided to uninstall the IDE controller. When I rebooted it reinstalled, but now there is not advanced tab to check the DMA setting. I am not lost. Can you offer any help?
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johnmark
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29. December 2004 @ 18:49 |
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additionally, since upgrading to WinXP, my entire system has been running slower than before. when I try to burn a dvd it works but it just takes much longer than before. i can still burn cds also, but they take longer as well. any help would be greatly appreciated. oh, and I AM lost.
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dosbatch
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29. December 2004 @ 18:59 |
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ok, heres your problem....you have Windows....winblows! Get linux!!
~Chris~
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WiteWizrd
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29. December 2004 @ 19:04 |
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john, i totally agree, i dont know about burning...cuzz i just started to burn, but i have noticed that xp is slower 2...if you have the means 2, try using 2000 and see if your time speeds up at all
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rosspod
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29. December 2004 @ 19:18 |
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john to help with the dma settings, right click "my computer" select "manage" then "device manager" then select the "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers" expand that column. the select the channel that your dvd burner resides on, then right click, and select properties.
hope this helps!
ross
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johnmark
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30. December 2004 @ 07:03 |
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Thanks but I know how to find the dma setting it just isn't there. Its still burning slow. Can anyone else help?
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ScubaPete
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1. January 2005 @ 14:51 |
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@ Chris,
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ok, heres your problem....you have Windows....winblows! Get linux!!
If you can't post something to help, DO NOT POST AT ALL ~
Useless, assine comments reflect on the poster -
johnmark,
We need to check your DMA. "Ooohh, no you're not ! Only my husband or my Doctor checks my "D", "M" . . whatever . . ." No, no, it's OK, DMA stands for "Direct Memory Access" transfer mode OR as we say in the computer field, it's a really, fast way to move stuff. Many PC's today are using UDMA or "Ultra Direct Memory Access transfer mode, or as we like to call it, a really super-duper fast way to move stuff as opposed to the PIO mode. The PIO or Programmed I/O mode, is a technique whereby the system CPU and support hardware directly control the transfer of data between the system and the hard disk since shortly after the beginning of PC's up until the mid-1990's. So we want DMA (fast) more than we PIO (slow).
3. Let's check your Drive's transfer mode. It should be DMA-4, not PIO.
Windows XP downgrades the Ultra DMA transfer mode after receiving six CRC errors and drops it down to the much slower PIO mode.
To enable DMA mode using the Device Manager
1. Go to "My Computer, ""System Tools," "View System Information," then System Properties, "Hardware," Then Open Device Manager
2. Double-click IDE ATA//ATAPI Controllers to display the list of controllers and channels.
3. Right-click the icon for the channel to which your burner is connected and select Properties. Now click the Advanced Settings tab.
4. In the Current Transfer Mode drop-down box, select DMA if available if the current setting says, "PIO Only."
If the drop-down box already says, "DMA if Available" but the current transfer mode is PIO, then the user must "toggle" the settings. That is, change the selection from "DMA if available" to PIO only, and click "OK".
Then repeat the steps above to change the selection to "DMA if available".
OPTION: Right-click the burner and select "Uninstall" and then "OK" all prompts until the PC reboots. Upon rebooting, the PC should "find" your burner and reinstall it setting it by "Default" to DMA.
Lastly, when did you last defrag your Hard Drive (HD) ? If you have to stop and think about the last time you did it, then it's way, way overdue. Here we go, (Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defragmenter. When it opens, choose your HD, analyses it to see where we stand then if you need it (you probably will) choose Defragment.).
After you finish doing it now you might want to think about having "Scheduled Tasks" in your Control Panel do it for you on a daily basis.
A fragmented HD not only drastically slows down your system but it can cause all number of things to happen inside your PC, a messed up burn being one of them.
Once we've done that, our DVD burner should operate at peak efficiency :D)
Cheers,
Pete
Now let's see if everything will work together the way we want it to, OK ?
Give it a test run and let us know how you make out -
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 1. January 2005 @ 14:53
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bigboy70
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4. January 2005 @ 12:57 |
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Im running windows XP with 3.0Ghz pentium 4 with 1GB of ram and two 150 GB HD. I have 2 dvd burners 1)hp dvd writer 400 and 2) hp DVD writer 530. I hvae burnned 100's of succesfull DVDs at both 8x(around 7 min) and 4x (around 14 min). 3 days ago my burners( both )statrted burrning really slow (50 min a disk) and DVD Shrink has been encoding slow (normaly a 25% compressed disk takes 40 min now over an hour). I checked DMA and it is on for both. My last resort is to take my computer to Best buy to get checked. Any suggestions befor doing that?
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colw
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4. January 2005 @ 19:13 |
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bigboy70
If DMA mode is OK, I would check for spyware and viruses on your system first.
Adaware SE and Spybot suggested (both free).
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ScubaPete
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4. January 2005 @ 19:23 |
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(Sometimes I have trouble believing these posts . . . .)
bigboy70,
Did you bother to read the post just before yours ?
PLEASE tell me you checked all of that before you posted - PLEASE . . . . .
(Off in the corner just shaking my head side to side . . . .
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brobear
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4. January 2005 @ 19:42 |
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Routine clean up, system maintenance, maintaining correct system resources, even the occasional defrag besides the other important info Pete and colw mentioned. Where's that stick, can't touch some of these enlightened questions.
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brobear
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4. January 2005 @ 19:50 |
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If a system doesn't have the resources to run the XP operating system at a decent speed, there is no reason in the world to expect that system to be able to do DVD video recording. The spit hit me in the face and I'm looking for Superman now, heard something about him being touchy over a cape.
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rainman29
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16. January 2005 @ 13:03 |
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Thanks for posting to this problem, I had the same problem and I deleted the Primary and Secondary IDE controller in the device manager and rebooted. This fixed the problems, I believe the DMA/PIO settings were corrupted somehow.
Making technology work for you!
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ScubaPete
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16. January 2005 @ 14:47 |
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rainman29,
Somewhere around the 6th time your burner runs into an error it "kicks back" from its DMA mode to its PIO mode.
As bear mentioned, routine maintance. Defrag at least weekly, (I do it daily), check monthly for firmware updates as well as driver updates (these can be checked "automatically" with most programs. You'll find a box that says something like "check for updates everytime the program opens".
Cheers,
Pete :)
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morgana3
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17. January 2005 @ 13:14 |
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After having no luck with the DMA,I searched for IDE updates. I found an accelerator program and I now burn a dvd (8x) in less than 8 minutes, decrypt in under 20 minutes, where just three days ago it was 50 minutes to burn and up to 1 hour and 20 minutes to decrypt.
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brobear
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17. January 2005 @ 19:22 |
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What is the name of this wonderful program?
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ScubaPete
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18. January 2005 @ 13:45 |
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Quote:
What is the name of this wonderful program?
Application accelerator will do it . . . .
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brobear
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18. January 2005 @ 19:44 |
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How?
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18. January 2005 @ 20:31 |
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Wow, Scubapete, are you a chick?
My computer ripped really slow for awhile and I noticed that my CPU usage stayed at 100% constantly. So to make my computer go faster, I deleted major files off my computer, defragged it, and went back to a restore point. CPU dropped down to an average 0% usage.
One problem that I continue to have is speed. I have 2 DVD drives: DVD-ROM and DVD RW. The DVD RW is connected to the modem and the DVD-ROM is part of the computer. The DVD RW tends to read faster, maxing out at over 6,000 kb/s (4x) before it starts to go down. The DVD Rom drive stays at (2x) and just over 2,000 kb/s.
The current transfer mode for the primary is Ultra DMA Mode 5 for Device 0 and is N/A for Device 1.
The current transfer mode for the secondary is PIO Mode and can not choose DMA for Device 0. It's Ultra DMA Mode 2 for Device 1.
It does shrink faster if the movie is already ripped to your hd.
I do also have the cursed software WIN XP.
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brobear
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19. January 2005 @ 03:59 |
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The most common setup is to have the DVD ROM as master on the secondary IDE (HD is primary) with the burner in the slave position.
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DVD RW is connected to the modem and the DVD-ROM is part of the computer.
Hooking a DVD RW to a modem isn't the usual setup and which of those devices, the RW or ROM, is Device 1 and which is 0? getting everything into DMA will get things speeded up. Normally disabling properly setup drives with the manager and reloading the drivers will get the DMA on.
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Tidycat
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20. January 2005 @ 13:09 |
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The original issue was that johnmark had no advanced tab in the IDE channel section of his device manager. Does anyone know how to fix that?
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brobear
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20. January 2005 @ 14:05 |
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Tidycat
johnmark stated the IDE controller was listed when the computer rebooted. Pete explained how to open up the device manager to the Advanced tab to check to see if the DMA is on or not. I'd say everyone assumed it was just a matter of knowing the right sequence to access the info. There are 2 other alternatives I can think of quickly; XP is screwed up or the IDE controler isn't functioning. In that case, go into device manager and troubleshoot the problem. I'd say to review Pete's directions and take that route first.
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brobear
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20. January 2005 @ 14:30 |
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Opening categories in the Device Manager can be acheived by double clicking the desired entry or expanding the category by selecting the plus box to the left. I say double click to expand or click when a single click makes the selection of a tab in a window. Here once again are the steps to check DMA in the Advanced tab.
Start
Control Panel
In Control Panel double click System
In System Properties window Click Hardware tab (if not already open)
Click Device Manager
In Device Manager Double Click IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers
Double Click either the Primary or Secondary IDE Channel
Click the Advanced Settings Tab in the Properties window.
That is the short step by step method without Pete's entertaining presentation.
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rainman29
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20. January 2005 @ 14:43 |
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Thanks for the info Pete, but I found out something:
IT'S DVD DECRYTPER!
This program sets DMA to PIO every time I use it. The good thing is that this program rips more thoroughly than DVD Shrink, and gets by blocks. So, in the meantime it's worth the extra time, and I'll look for firmware upgrades. I do do the defrag often, having movies on your hard drive fragments the heck out of it.
=)
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brobear
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20. January 2005 @ 14:54 |
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It may happen while DVD Decrypter is running, but you probably have an underlying problem of some sort. This is actually the first time in several months that I've heard anyone say Decrypter caused their controller to go into PIO mode.
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