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16. January 2005 @ 20:18 |
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I have a game that I need to backup and was wondering if any of you were getting a read data error of sort like every 5 seconds. I'm curious what it is? I'm using Alcohol 120%. I mean I got the game backed up I just had left it to burn for like 3 hours cause I thought if I slowed the speed it would work. My question is what are these read errors? I'll get log up soon.
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16. January 2005 @ 20:23 |
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Your game is probably SafeDisc protected. It's normal to see a steady stream of errors at the beginning of a read on a SafeDisc protected game - it's part of how the protection works.
Have you scanned the game with A-Ray Scanner to determine the protection/version number?
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16. January 2005 @ 21:35 |
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Can I use Alcoholer to check what protection/version it is? Does it matter? So what do all those read errors mean?
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16. January 2005 @ 21:48 |
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It's said that A-ray scanner is as accurate as you can get. As Nephillim said, those errors are probably the protection, nothing to worry about.
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17. January 2005 @ 01:14 |
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Thanx for the info...
Where can I get A-Ray Scanner? Is it freeware? I think I'll give it a try... I went to one of the afterdawn forums and they adviced me to use clonexxl
Thanx for your help
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17. January 2005 @ 04:08 |
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18. January 2005 @ 00:13 |
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Oh okay, so I shouldn't use clonexxl. So I'll delete that and I'll use A-Ray Scanner. Also Should I delete Alcoholer? I'm not quite sure what it does but I think it's related to Alcohol 120% plus it's related to clonexxl, but I'm not good with protections... I just want to make a back up of one of my protection cd because my brother messed up my previous games like empires dawn of the mod wor.... So I wasn't too happy about it.... Anyways I hope this works....
Do you happen to know where I can find a manual or guide on backing up protected cd's? like game cd's....
Thanx for all your time
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18. January 2005 @ 00:39 |
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Oh okay, so I shouldn't use clonexxl.
yup
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Also Should I delete Alcoholer?
Your call, Ive never used it personally but hold on to it until you fell you don't need it or you realize its just taking up space :)
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but I'm not good with protections...
We shall change that :)
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Do you happen to know where I can find a manual or guide on backing up protected cd's? like game cd's....
The best manual is here at aD. With all the expeirence thats here you will have this down in no time, then we will see you here helping others.
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18. January 2005 @ 05:46 |
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Okay, I'll do my best at helping but were do I find it? could you give me link to it? I'll try finding it...
Thanx for your help
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18. January 2005 @ 06:21 |
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What do you need help with? is with a certain game or a certain program?
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19. January 2005 @ 01:11 |
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I'm trying to backup a protected game cd. My brother uses it and I don't want any scratches on it or I'll just use the burned one instead of the original......
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19. January 2005 @ 04:23 |
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20. January 2005 @ 06:21 |
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Is Blindwrite free?
Anyways I got the cd to backup on to my computer and running it but can't burn
help[
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20. January 2005 @ 06:24 |
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BlindWrite isn't free but it's worth every penny they ask for it.
What game are you trying to back up?
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20. January 2005 @ 06:29 |
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-Jay05- is trying to backup "Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth"
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Anyways I got the cd to backup on to my computer and running it but can't burn
Im alittle slow today so define can't burn.
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20. January 2005 @ 06:37 |
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Lol, missed that didn't I? I need to let the coffee kick in before answering posts in the morning!
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20. January 2005 @ 06:44 |
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Me too, thats why im way slow, im on the short bus today.
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21. January 2005 @ 01:49 |
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Okay here's the situation. I got "Empires dawn of the modern world" backed up to my computer and I can play safely from it using Daemon Tools. Now... The problem is burning it to a cd. Any guide or tips I can know on how to burn the image to a cd... I ripped the image through Alcohol 120%...
Hoped this helps... I really want to burn this cd cause I really don't want my brother playing with it. Maybe with the backed up one...cuz he scratches it like he!!~
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21. January 2005 @ 06:54 |
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The coffee hasn't kicked in yet but,
What make/model drive are we dealing with?
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22. January 2005 @ 01:54 |
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CD writer: QSI-SBW241
Speed: 24X
CPU and all that junk on my sig.
Burning image to cd: Empires dawn of the modern world
Burning Utilty: Burnwrite, Alcohol 120%, Nero, and rarely clonecd.
Problem: Need a guide of some sort to burn the image
Hoped this helpd...thanx
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22. January 2005 @ 07:21 |
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Your burner isn't EFM capable which means you're not going to be able to make a working copy of the game so your best bet is going to be Alcohol 120% and it's emulation options.
To give you a better understanding of what I'm talking about I'll explain a couple things. Unlike burning DVDs where the protection is stripped out, burning protected PC games involves having to read the protection then write it back to the disc - both of which need to be done very accurately. Not all burners are able to write the protections accurately enough to make a working copy......
When you try to run a protected game it needs to perform a "handshake" of sorts between the disc and the game on your hard drive to verify that the disc is legitimate. If the protection is written back to the disc accurately enough it'll pass the handshake and you have what's known as a "working" copy ? one that doesn't need emulation to run. If the copy is less than perfect the handshake will fail because the copy protection will detect that there's something fishy with the copy. In that case you can use emulation tools which basically help the disc pass the handshake process.
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22. January 2005 @ 08:07 |
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how ya doin -Jay05-
Well Empires dawn of the modern world seems to be Safedisc V3.10.20 protected, lets see if we can get you going with Alcohol 120%.
Since I see that your running the notebook select Image Making Wizard with AL120%, with your Read Speed select 4x, check the boxes that say Skip read errors and Fast skip error blocks (Not every device supports this function) leave the rest unchecked, at the bottom select your Datatype to Safedisc 2/3, click Next and on the next screen click on Start, your image will start dumping and you will get alot of disc read errors--> this is normal.
Once your image is done select Image Burning Wizard you might have to browse where your image was dumped to..should be a folder in your C: drive named Alcohol 120 then Next, form there select your Write Speed to 4x, leave everything else the way they are but make sure your Datatype is selected the same as the protection which is Safedisc 2/3, click Start and off you go.
once your imgage is done cooking pop it in and see if you can play the backup hopefully with out emulation but if you do post back we will set you up....very easy fix.
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25. January 2005 @ 21:34 |
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I'll try what you told me geestar but Nephilim tells me that it wouldn't work... Oh well, it doesn't hurt to try... thanx for da info and if I find probs I'll reply ASAP Thanx for all your time
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26. January 2005 @ 04:38 |
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but Nephilim tells me that it wouldn't work...
Negative...he said you will probably need emaulation with Alcohol.
Re-read -Nephilim- post
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Your burner isn't EFM capable which means you're not going to be able to make a working copy of the game so your best bet is going to be Alcohol 120% and it's emulation options.
To give you a better understanding of what I'm talking about I'll explain a couple things. Unlike burning DVDs where the protection is stripped out, burning protected PC games involves having to read the protection then write it back to the disc - both of which need to be done very accurately. Not all burners are able to write the protections accurately enough to make a working copy......
When you try to run a protected game it needs to perform a "handshake" of sorts between the disc and the game on your hard drive to verify that the disc is legitimate. If the protection is written back to the disc accurately enough it'll pass the handshake and you have what's known as a "working" copy ? one that doesn't need emulation to run. If the copy is less than perfect the handshake will fail because the copy protection will detect that there's something fishy with the copy. In that case you can use emulation tools which basically help the disc pass the handshake process.
Thats what Alcohol does for you.. "The Hand Shake" so you can play the game, with out "The Hand Shake" emulation enabled you will not be able to play the game . Your disc tray will say "NEED EMULATION" when you have your backup in.
And as I said "very easy fix"
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26. January 2005 @ 19:57 |
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I think I have an alternative. Do you think it'll work if I burn the image file (*.ccd because it's alcohol ripped) to a cd-r, not buring using the image wizard, but just dragging the files and putting them in a data cd. You know what I mean. So when I re insert the cd, I only see the images on the data cd I just created, then I just copy it to a location and emulate it using Daemon Tools or alcohol like nephilim said. You think that'll work? (I really don't want to give out my original, not after what he's done...)
Thanx for your time
-Jay-
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