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digiman
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11. December 2002 @ 04:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Create near DVD Quality VCDs on one or two CD-Rs. This site explains how. http://www.kvcd.net Exciting stuff.

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X-0ut
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11. December 2002 @ 05:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would just like to point out that not all DVD players will run these kvcd's (mine included).
There is a list of known DVD players that have been tested at the site.
If your not sure if your DVD player will run these,best do a 2 min test on CD-RW before spending many hours encoding with these templates.

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Synapsi
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12. December 2002 @ 05:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Apart from the compatibility, let's talk about quality.

Any experience?
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12. December 2002 @ 09:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is the first time I ever heard of this. I'll give it a shot anyway and see!
CRAZYmack
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30. December 2002 @ 07:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what burning program do you use for these templates?
HaroldW
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30. December 2002 @ 13:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
CrazyMack:

You can use any burning program that has a VCD option (for the MPEG-1 encoded files) or SVCD option (for the MPEG-2 encoded files.) Make sure you turn OFF VCD or SVCD compliance before you burn (all of Kwag's templates produce XVCD or XSVCD mpegs), otherwise burning programs that have a built-in encoder (like Nero) will re-encode to the standard selected. Oh, in case you don't know, Kwag is guy who operates kvcd.net.
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30. December 2002 @ 20:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The files you get there should be thrown into your template folder on and loaded using the load button!
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30. December 2002 @ 20:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just as an extra word, kvcd doesnt work in a lot of dvd players so you should use vbr svcd which is a standard! it allows 60min's on a single 700mb disk and the quality is very very near dvd if you use CCE SP to encode. I recommend using it with DVD2SVCD as your frontend!
jnihil
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30. December 2002 @ 21:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If your DVD player supports XVCD, then I've found that 352x240(or 288) video streams encoded at SVCD bitrates produce a much more watchable picture than SVCD.

Again, you should experiment and see what your players support using rewritable CDs.
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31. December 2002 @ 08:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've tried XVCD in mine and its ok except one problem, my dvd player has a slider bar to slide accross the movie (which I use instead of chapters) and I can't use it with xvcd because the sound goes out of sync. I know obviously that the dvd player's slide bar was designed for standard vcd and thats why.

You say SVCD at 352x240(288). I've never tried that so I think I'll give it a go!
CRAZYmack
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1. January 2003 @ 08:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes, i know my dvd player can play Kvcd's and just after i posted this post, i found out how i could burn them on kvcd.net so thanks anyway.
CRAZYmack
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1. January 2003 @ 08:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes, i know my dvd player can play Kvcd's and just after i posted this post, i found out how i could burn them on kvcd.net so thanks anyway.
lyberty
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16. January 2003 @ 19:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There don't seem to be many comments about XVCD (eXtended VCD ) or XSVCD (eXtended SVCD) on afterdawn... I was just wondering why that is?

Are the KVCD templates the closest we can get to xSVCD? What tools are currently available for encoding to xVCD/xSVCD formats? Can Nero handle burning to these formats?

Thx.
HaroldW
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16. January 2003 @ 20:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lyberty:

All of the templates at www.kvcd.net are for making XVCDs or XSVCDs.

Here is one link for you:

http://www.vcdhelp.com/xvcd.htm

The next two statements are from that webpage.

"XVCD stands for eXtendedVCD. XVCD has same features as VCD but it is possible to use higher bitrates and higher resolution to get higher video quality. XVCD is basicly everything that uses MPEG1 video, is not within the VCD standard and burnt in "VCD"-Mode."

"XSVCD stands for eXtendedSVCD. XSVCD has same features as SVCD but it is possible to use higher bitrates and higher resolution to get higher video quality. XSVCD is basicly everything that uses MPEG2 video, is not within the SVCD standard and burnt in "SVCD"-Mode."

You can make an XVCD or XSVCD mpeg with any encoder that allows you to make VCDs and SVCDs provided it allows you to change the parameters to outside of the specific parameters for VCDs and SVCDs. TMPGenc and Cinema Craft Encoder (CCE) are probably the most popular encoders used to create XVCDs or XSVCDs.

Nero can burn XVCDs or XSVCDs (provided VCD or SVCD compliance is turned off.) Nero cannot encode XVCDs and XSVCDs.

I don't know why there is not much info about XVCDs and XSVCDs at afterdawn. I frequent www.vcdhelp.com much more and at times find their website a veritable "information overload" about converting movies and video to the various disk formats.
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jnihil
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17. January 2003 @ 04:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There are many TMPGEnc templates for creating XVCDs. I use a template from a Japanese XVCD site. The site is fully Japanese so I'll give you the URLs for the TMPGEnc templates:

http://www.mao.gr.jp/download/dlcounter/dlcount.cgi?file=HighQualityVCD.lzh
http://www.mao.gr.jp/download/dlcounter/dlcount.cgi?file=HighQualitySVCD.lzh

These have worked rather nicely for me. And yes, you can use Nero to burn.

XVCDs are fun. They really push your DVD players' capabilities.
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