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18. May 2005 @ 14:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Im pullin my hair out over this. After an ordeal of trying to get my DMA settings enabled it still takes me forever for backup.
I thought my problems would be solved after i got the Ultra DMA working but it still taking DVD shrink about 3 hours to encode and burn. Same time frame with Nero. I have the DVD hooked up to the secondary IDE as the master. What can possibly be wrong? Please help.
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I've noticed that a lot of people have had the problem for the longest. Sometimes everything is at its best but it still goes slow. Encoding slow sometimes can be caused by a dirty disc. If you are using shrink: Compress Video with high quality adaptive error compensaton is sometimes checked. If that is checked then it tacks on an extra hour or two to encode to fix any errors that may occur. I unchecked it and everything went back to normal and the disc played the same at the end.

What speed are you burning at?

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PIO, DMA will only affect burning and ripping, not encoding times. What are your system specs, cpu, memory, and o.s. For fastest encode times make sure nothing is checked under quality settings. The video quality will of course suffer. How long does it take to actually burn and at what speed?

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I have 128 Mb ram, 40 gb western digital, 2.1 ghz,. I use princo DVd-r . I hear princo are really bad but that shouldnt effect encoding time. All the quality enhancements are unchecked. Should I buy more RAM Cos when i burn or encode my comp is sooooo sluggish. Would more RAm speed the encoding and burning up. It takes about 90 minutes to burn @ about , well it says "1800kb (1.6x) What does that mean? is it (1800 kb times 1.6). Thanks in advance for all your help


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Hi alex808,

Your RAM is killing you. Normally we tell pple who have 256MB of RAM to get more - you are way way down there. What OS system do you have ?




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I have 128 Mb ram, 40 gb western digital, 2.1 ghz,. I use princo DVd-r . I hear princo are really bad but that shouldnt effect encoding time. All the quality enhancements are unchecked. Should I buy more RAM Cos when i burn or encode my comp is sooooo sluggish. Would more RAm speed the encoding and burning up. It takes about 90 minutes to burn @ about , well it says "1800kb (1.6x) What does that mean? is it (1800 kb times 1.6). Thanks in advance for all your help


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3 hours to encode and burn a backup dvd movie? Ouch, that's gotta hurt :( The 1800 kb simply means what your dvd is burning at, which is very slow. That's less than the standard 2.0-2.4
Some helpful hints:
1) Defrag your hd on a regular basis
2) Buy good brand name media such as Verbatim
3) DISABLE screen saver, antivirus when burning
4) Upgrade your total physical ram to at least 512 (if motherboard supports)
5) Upgrade CPU (if motherboard supports)
6) Consider a ata\133 hd and pc controller card

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I would recommend at least a 256 gb memory card (512 would be much better). You didn't list what operating software you are running but XP alone will use up most of the memory you've got.

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I have 128 Mb ram, 40 gb western digital, 2.1 ghz,. I use princo DVd-r . I hear princo are really bad but that shouldnt effect encoding time. All the quality enhancements are unchecked. Should I buy more RAM Cos when i burn or encode my comp is sooooo sluggish. Would more RAm speed the encoding and burning up. It takes about 90 minutes to burn @ about , well it says "1800kb (1.6x) What does that mean? is it (1800 kb times 1.6). Thanks in advance for all your help

Smoochies
Evidently, you need to upgrade from 128MB Ram to at least 512MB or 1GB, the more MB you have the better your computer system runs. With 40GB HD and 2.1GHz CPU, I think you will be ok. With 512 or 1GB of RAM you should be sitting at anywhere from 45 - 60mins for backing up dvd movies.


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You know what...i think i need more RaM :) Thamks for the help guys. How do i know if my motherboard will support 512 MB ram?

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You know what...i think i need more RaM :) Thamks for the help guys. How do i know if my motherboard will support 512 MB ram?
If your pc isn't custom built then check the owners manual (if applicable). It still shouldn't take 3 hours to rip& encode and backup a dvd. My suggestion, try DVD Decrypter and CloneDVD2. Having a fast dvd ripper helps :) Some brand name dvd-roms that rip dvd's blazing fast are Lite-ON 16x and Asus 16x.

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Some web sites that sell ram have a proggy where you can type in the brand and model of your pc or mobo to determine what will work with your set up. You can also use SiS Sandra to determine available open memory slots and what type memory you already have or you can open the case and see if you have any open slots. Depending on what your mobo will support you may want to upgrade all the memory to a single 512 card of faster stuff. Let us know what type memory you have now, what your mobo will support, and how many slots you have.

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Should I have the 80 interface IDE cable? Right now I have the 40.

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Yeah that would be a good idea too, but probably isn't the problem at hand. You can get some round ATA/IDE 133 cables here http://www.coolerguys.com/idecables.html for really good prices.

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An 80-pin cable will make a difference in transfer time and reduce the chance of errors.

As for your PC and your software, upping your RAM to 512MB will be fine for your PC. Instead of using DVD Decrypter use AnyDVD. With DVDD you need extra HD space - the amount of the DVD PLUS another 4300MB and a little more for your compressed temp file.

Using AnyDVD you can get by with 5 or 6 GB as you don't need HD space to put your ripped DVD file from the disc, you only need the space needed for the compressed temp files prior to burning.

Well worth the $39.99 (USD) :)

Hope this has been of some help,

Cheers,

Pete





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i changed to an 80 pin canle, It made a big difference in the burn time is now about 18 minuts but the encoding is taking about 120 minutes. More memory is on the way. Im getting the 512 mb , Will this help my encoding time? ThANK YOU GUYS......
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i changed to an 80 pin canle, It made a big difference in the burn time is now about 18 minuts but the encoding is taking about 120 minutes. More memory is on the way. Im getting the 512 mb , Will this help my encoding time? ThANK YOU GUYS......
aLOHA
More ram won't help faster encoding time but will help the pc's overall performance, especially if you're running numerous programs. A faster cpu, faster ram (PC 2100,2700, 3200) or a ATA 133/ SATA 150 hd. :)

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DVD Shrink will run much faster if you pulling files off hard drive rather than dvd drive. Personally I rip with DVD Decrypter into .iso. then encode with Shrink and burn with DVD Decrypter. I guess in most cases it's one extra step using DVD Decrypter to rip rather than shrink to rip and encode at the same time. But in runs much faster for me. Im sure the 2 WD raptures I have don't hurt none. Shrink 100% compression about 8 minutes. 60% compression about 15 minutes, That's pulling off hard drive that time more that doubles if I use shrink to rip and encode at the same time. CPU is where it's at for encoding, the more processor the faster the encoding.

Good Luck

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What does that mean? How do i get more processor?

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2.1g should be fine.if u want fast back ups use dvd x copy xpress or 1 click dvd with AnyDVD running in the back ground.usually takes about 35 mins to back up movies this way.

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Simple upgrade or overclock!

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