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jpcm
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24. May 2005 @ 19:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ive been shocked that I can backup a high-tech movie like Troy and The Incredibles, but then I try to do the same with foreign language art films made ten years ago, and I get these pixilated and garbled coasters. Im using good media (Verbatim AZO ink DVD-R 16x burned at 4x). Any ideas out there?
thanks, jpcm

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RussReef
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24. May 2005 @ 19:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When you play the VOB files on your computer (off your hard drive directly), does it look just as garbled? If yes, and you've been using the same media all along, then it's either:
1) your encoding process [What programs are use using?],
or 2) your source [Is the original film a pressed DVD like you'd buy from the store, or is it a AVI file you've downloaded from the net?]

We need more information so we can figure out why you're getting poor results.
jpcm
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25. May 2005 @ 00:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Im using DVD Shrink and Decrypter, and the original is a pressed dvd. I just had success with shrinking a foreign film and doing a deep analysis...it took FOREVER, but it finally gave me a clean copy.

Ill have to check on the VOB file played directly from my HD.



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25. May 2005 @ 00:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For me, anything below 70% compression (in DVD shrink) looks horrible. Maybe this is such a large movie (file-size wise), that you'll have to split it across two discs in order to avoid using any compression.
jpcm
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25. May 2005 @ 00:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yep RussReef, I generally split it if compression goes below 70%, too. The problem Im having, however, happens even when I dont compress, and split the disc. Im wondering if this is the problem, actually. Since I keep the subtitle files intact when I reauthor and split the movie onto two discs, might this cause the problem?
thanks.

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RussReef
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25. May 2005 @ 00:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmmm.. Haven't heard of the subtitles having this effect. Maybe try it without the subtitles, and see if it comes out better. You can always add subtitles manually later once you have a non-garbled/pixilated rip.

I wonder if region settings or PAL / NSTC is part of what's giving you trouble here. Might explain why shrink is taking forever.
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25. May 2005 @ 01:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
anything below 75% i now do in dvdrebuilder with 3 passes. a 70% film looks nearly identicle. although it takes MUCH longer than shrink etc.

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jpcm
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25. May 2005 @ 09:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's not a region thing, as it says region 1 on the box and I know it's NTSC and purchased in US. The slow shrink time was, I think, due to the deep analysis setting. Ive never used dvd rebuilder, babelfish, is it shareware?
thanks!

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25. May 2005 @ 23:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rebuilder is shareware (see above guides) but there is an expensive codec to buy - but im sure you can be resourceful ;)

i always use deep analysis in shrink cos when you have a big TV quality really matters.

i use dvd rebuilder with 3 passes and it takes ages but is very good quality.

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jpcm
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26. May 2005 @ 10:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks! Ill give Rebuilder a try. I think Ill be using deep analysis from now on.
cheers!
jpcm

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