Mobile/PDA About Us Advertise here
User User name Password  
  Not registered yet? Register here.
Lost your password? Click here. 		 
  Home   News   Guides   Downloads   Glossary   Hardware   Profiles   Forums   v4  
 Advertise at AfterDawn.com     Link to us!     Private messages     Compose a private message     List of all updated threads     Threads without replies     Search messages
Monday 25.8.2025 / 13:58
Search AfterDawn Forums:        In English   Suomeksi   På svenska
afterdawn.com > forums > archived forums > xbox - general discussion > using backup disks in unmodded xboxes?
Show topics
 
Forums
Forums
Using backup disks in unmodded Xboxes?
  Jump to:
 
Posted Message
ManGoogle
Newbie
_ 		26. May 2005 @ 09:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If I were to mod my box and rip an ISO file, could I then create a backup disk that could also be used in my other unmodded box? Just wondering.
[ + quote]
Googlit! Everything you need to know; ever.

www.google.com
Advertisement
_ 		__
Quadratic
Senior Member
_ 		26. May 2005 @ 10:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No.
[ + quote]
Proud Member of Afterdawn and http://www.teammodders.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Want to know how to make backups? Check here:http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/141037
ManGoogle
Newbie
_ 		26. May 2005 @ 12:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmmm... So basically something is missing from the disk that the BIOS needs in order to boot the game?

Curious what the mechanics of this are.
[ + quote]
Googlit! Everything you need to know; ever.

www.google.com
mdsup
Suspended due to non-functional email address
_ 		26. May 2005 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you need a hacked bios that can read a backup...the retail bios does not support backups.
[ + quote]
1.6 xbox
x3
dual hd's
seagate 300gig hd
seagate 100gig notebook hd
lots of led's

Halo2 LE(the blue case)
1.4
x3/x3 control panel/x3 lcd
400gig seagate
blue/green eject light
white controller port lights
ManGoogle
Newbie
_ 		26. May 2005 @ 12:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What is it that's different about the backup vs. the retail? Obviously there is some piece of code on the disk that's missing and one would assume that if that code was there, it would work...
[ + quote]
Googlit! Everything you need to know; ever.

www.google.com
Quadratic
Senior Member
_ 		26. May 2005 @ 14:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's not just one factor...

The discs are presumably double layer (because they can hold up to 7.9 GB). Secondly, Xbox game discs are made from the outside in (unlike standard CD/DVD, which are made from inside out. This is part of the reason why a regular PC DVD drive can't read xbox games, even if it is in an xbox). Third, there is an special encryption on Xbox games that you can't break or crack.
[ + quote]
Proud Member of Afterdawn and http://www.teammodders.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Want to know how to make backups? Check here:http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/141037
philipman
Senior Member
_ 		26. May 2005 @ 19:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You have to have a modchip to copy and play xbox games.
[ + quote]
ManGoogle
Newbie
_ 		27. May 2005 @ 07:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Xbox games are stamped DVD-9s. DVD replication, not DVD duplication. I have no idea about "inside out" and "outside in" but they make a mold, they stamp out a million of 'em, they're done.

The encryption, everything - all of it. Imagine this: You steal a replicator from Star Trek (stupid, I know) and you can sit down and make an exact duplicate of your game. Now, let's modify that. Let's say that instead of making a molecularly exact copy of the game, all that you copy over is an exact copy of the data on the disk. Something so basic that the PC doesn't even have to read it. It just reads a 1, writes a one - reads a 0, writes a 0.

If you could literally clone the data off of an Xbox Disk (you may need a DVD 9 to do it) then there should be absolutely nothing stopping the Xbox from thinking it's the real thing. All you need is for the disk to interact with the laser in exactly the same way that the original did.

That's my beef.
[ + quote]
Googlit! Everything you need to know; ever.

www.google.com
Advertisement
_ 		__
 
_
AtariBorn
Member
_ 		29. May 2005 @ 01:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The games don't read from the outside-in, they spin just like a normal DVD.

I've heard it could have something to do with the little barcode in the center of the game disc.

The Samsung 616T PC DVDRom can read Xbox discs.
[ + quote]
PS2 v7
Softmod MC Exploit
HDLoader 2.0/HDAdvance 1.0 & 2.1 (MC Versions)
Maxtor 200 Gb Ultra ATA 133 7200 RPM

Xbox w/Samsung DVD Drive
Softmod Evox/Avalaunch
Maxtor 300 Gb Ultra ATA 133 7200 RPM (ATA 133 Cable)
OEM Seagate 10 Gb 5400 RPM

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. May 2005 @ 01:45
afterdawn.com > forums > archived forums > xbox - general discussion > using backup disks in unmodded xboxes?
 

Digital video: AfterDawn.com | AfterDawn Forums
Music: MP3Lizard.com
Gaming: Blasteroids.com | Blasteroids Forums | Compare game prices
Software: Software downloads
Blogs: User profile pages
RSS feeds: AfterDawn.com News | Software updates | AfterDawn Forums
International: AfterDawn in Finnish | AfterDawn in Swedish | AfterDawn in Norwegian | download.fi
Navigate: Search | Site map
About us: About AfterDawn Ltd | Advertise on our sites | Rules, Restrictions, Legal disclaimer & Privacy policy
Contact us: Send feedback | Contact our media sales team
 
  © 1999-2025 by AfterDawn Ltd.

  IDG TechNetwork