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1 Click DVD Copy Nightmare
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stonecld
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8. January 2005 @ 13:25 |
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Best ones ive tried so far are DVD Shrink and Nero or Clone Dvd2 and Any Dvd is even faster than shrink 30 minutes to do whole dvd and quality is nice too 1 click tried it slow and not enough options. Dvd Cloner forget about it Crap
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ScubaPete
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8. January 2005 @ 15:12 |
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Shame, but if my backups actually "play" correctly with a 40. machine instead of a 300 dollar machine, it does not say too much for the nice things in life.
No, it certainly doesn't - but, that's life - sucks, Huh ?
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luckydude
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11. January 2005 @ 14:32 |
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Where can I find Verbatim +RW Advanced Metal AZO Dye disks? I realize they are going to be more expensive. I'm trying to find some and at the best possible price. In the stores or on the internet? Please help! Thank you!
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TitanXV
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12. January 2005 @ 08:04 |
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diverj -
I get the same problem...freezing and pixelation on my Toshiba player for TV. Its about 2 years old. Its not the media or ripping/burn process. Its the player. I have a cheap $25 Apex player in the bedroom and the same DVD plays flawlessly on the Apex and pixelates and freezes on the $180 Toshiba.
Go figure. :|
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smiley369
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12. January 2005 @ 16:28 |
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1 Click DVD Copy is a piece of shit,don't invest in it because if u need help they won't.I wanted a refund and the stop answering my emails,did u get a refund?
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ScubaPete
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12. January 2005 @ 18:36 |
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If the Verbatim says "DataLife PLUS" then you've got the right stuff -
Check Newegg.com and Mertline.com
Cheers,
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luckydude
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13. January 2005 @ 05:49 |
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I assume the verbatim disks you mentioned have advanced metal azo dye. Thanks ScubaPete, I'll check it out and appreciate your help. Have a great day! Luckydude 8)
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ScubaPete
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13. January 2005 @ 18:18 |
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smiley369,
This thread isn't the place to Bitch and Moan. If you're not here to help, go to the Safety Valvue and bitch to yourself there - You need to stop posting all over just because you can't operate a program -
We're not here to listen to you cry. Be a good baby and go to your room it's ~ ~> that way ~ ~>
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diverj
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16. January 2005 @ 16:30 |
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Update: I decided since the CyberHome DVD Players were so cheap, I would pick up one at the local Wally World and voila! It would appear that all of my backups that I could not play before because of skips, pixelation etc has been solved. Pete, thanks for the tip, I wondered in the past if it was my DVD player, but it was only 2 years old and NOT a cheapo either.
I am not the type person to purchase the cheapest item on the market, and would never have thought a cheap player would be better than an expensive one, but the picture I get is in a word wonderful. Thanks Pete.
Diverj
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ScubaPete
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17. January 2005 @ 18:59 |
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Dennis,
I went over all my posts to you and see that I didn't suggest Cyber-Home to you -
Funny because I do in fact suggest a player to many and I recommend a Cyber-Home (I have one also) because it does play everything :)
Because the technology changes so quickly many players 1 and ½ yrs old or more are many times the culprit. I'm glad you were able to divine the answer and sorry I didn't suggest it to you sooner.
You're doing well now and that's what matters ? and now that you're doing well, that doesn't mean it's time for you to up and Ski-dattle - this is a give and take kind of a deal - we had fun helping you, now, the next time, you get to have some fun yourself :)
It's people like you who make this site work - You've seen how we work and you've seen that we had fun doing it - Now it's your turn, stop back when you're free and help someone else - You'll have fun and, a chance to learn some more, (teaching is a learning experience too you know) the people you help will appreciate it and it will make you feel better :-)
Then you'll have a chance to "Welcome" them into our little Club :D
Take a few minutes and check out our opening page. We've got a ton"O"stuff here at aD ? Checkout other forums, we have the "Safety Valve" a forum about anything ? from "What's bugging you," "Where members come from" OR the best joke you've heard ? OR, check out our forums on Digital Camcorders, Photography, Home Theater components, Games, p2p topics or even Cellular phones.
We hope to see you around when you're NOT having problems to solve -
You'll find us hanging out, over there by the water cooler, under the potted palm, chewing the fat and trying to help the next Newbie with the weight of the burning world upon their shoulders -
We'll be lQQking for you ~ ~>
Sea ya soon,
Pete :b)
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cjl52346
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18. February 2005 @ 08:58 |
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For what its worth.I'm a little ashamed to admit it but I have 5 burners and use the last version of dvdxcopy which I repurchased from the Canadian site without a problem and with no problem so far with multiple activations.I have a Toshiba 5112, a IO 16x =/- dual layer,2 lite-on dual layer burners and 2 Pacific Digitals 8x (NEC 1300a) according to device manager.I have used media mostly from meritline namely the Ritek 04 and the Great Azo media 8x 2 23 centa a shot.Most of the burn problems and I have done a couple thousand were from media incompatibility which were corrected for the most part by firmware updates on all the burners except the Toshiba which has not posted a legal update for a year.I also have 2 Emerson stand alone burners from WalMart that have performed pretty well and use the Azo disks on them although with some lots I will geat an incompatibility message occasionally about half way down the spindle. I have also used various sale media from Staples without much problem including Teon and their own branded media although they will not always burn at the listed speed depending upon the media and the brand.Teon and Staples media will not work with the Emersons.The only problems that I have encountered has been with some Canadian and A&E dvds which I have had to use DVD rescue with varying amounts of success.Apparently the staff at 1 click copy state that some of the newer films have bad sectors that thwart dvdxcopy but not their software.One workaround that I have done has been to copy a movie in real time to the Emerson stand alone using one of the commercially available copyguard deeaters that you can eith order off the web or purchase at eith Circuit City or Best Buys for about a 100 us dollars
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ScubaPete
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18. February 2005 @ 20:23 |
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Hi 52346,
With the exception of the Great AZO that you're using I say, if it works, burn on . . .
I have tested the Great AZO and have had "memory" issues in as short as 3months - meaning that the discs were unplayable in that a short a time. I also had a 13% failure of discs (coasters) using those discs. Running them through DVD Identifier explained why. They were made by pple unknown. 9 different companies for just the one disc - unbelievable -
Other than that, continue on -
Cheers,
Pete
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cjl52346
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19. February 2005 @ 02:40 |
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Thanks Pete. I'll go back and check my AZO dvds for deterioration.I used your instructions that you posted for burning dvds using DVD Shrink and decrypter and was amazed at the results.The only variance was that I had to select automatic fit instead of a numeric size for the disc space and I also was running dvd43free the latest version in the background.I used a copy of one of the new movies that have the bad sectors? thrown in to make them uncopyable that would not copy on dvdxcopy and the complete process from start to finish which was copying the whole disk with all the extras was about 32 minutes.,I was amazed.I might be overly critical but I think that there might have been a small loss of resolution of the free ware vs dvdxcopy. I tried running dvd43free in background when making a copy of the same movie and while it apparently ripped the whole movie instead of stopping at 4 seconds it still would not burn the disk afterwards, same for dvd xrescue.Regarding specs for my machines in the last post I am using a Systemax from Tigerdirect P4 2.4 Mhz,an HP 1.3 MHz, an HP 2.4Mhz and a Compaq 2.0MHz. The burners are according to device manager Lite-on dvdrw SOHW 1633s,DVDRW IDE 16x(Thats the new IO burner) and a NEC DVD RW ND 1300a (The Pacific Digital burners)Thanks so much for your informative post.Is there any way anyone knows of to work around the bad sector problem with the new films using DVDXCOPY?
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cjl52346
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19. February 2005 @ 02:44 |
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One last point. I have found that my little APEX 1100 will play just about anything including xvcd that my more expensive brand name players will not.I found that out when I downloaded a favorite tv series in xvcd and couldnt play it on most of the name brand players
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ScubaPete
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19. February 2005 @ 15:03 |
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cjl52346,
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that there might have been a small loss of resolution of the free ware vs dvdxcopy.
At one time, a year ago or so, I would have agreed BUT since last August and the advent of the quality controls on DVD Shrink, there is no doubt that Shrink produces a better quality backup especially when using Maximum Smoothness OR Maximum Sharpness. Though those settings take a bit longer for me at least, it's more than worth it. Some pple rate quality over quickness :) Being on the Beta testing team for DVD Shrink it was interesting to watch the gap close and then watch Shrink pull slowly ahead until the gap between them couldn't be denied.
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The only variance was that I had to select automatic fit instead of a numeric size for the disc space
I consider that feature a PLUS. Setting the figure at 4360MB allows a bit of "wiggle" room so that the burn doesn't go to the edge of the disc where the dye on even some of the better discs is a bit "dodgy".
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I also was running dvd43free the latest version in the background
Yea, that's the one you have to pay for - Sorry, I don't think too much of it -
If you want your programs to work I suggest you use AnyDVD. At this time it is the only proggy available that can rip 100% of all the encryptions INCLUDING the newer Settec ALPHA-DVD and it's variations. As for other truly FREE rippers, the new release of DVD Decrypter (Jan.4, 2005) will take care of all those encryptions with the faulty files (ARccOS encryptions) EXCEPT the Settec ALPHA-DVD.
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I have found that my little APEX 1100 will play just about anything including xvcd that my more expensive brand name players will not.
So true. I have a Cyber-Home that will play a Mushroom Pizza if the cheese isn't too thick. The older players, over 1 1/2 yrs old (the more expensive ones), are really picky. Try using 4X, -R discs - you'll have a better chance of them working. The reason ? When those players were built, those were the discs that were available. Since we cannot do a flash-firmware upgrade, we can't teach them all about the newer discs :(
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Is there any way anyone knows of to work around the bad sector problem with the new films using DVDXCOPY?
Remembering that DVD XCopy is 1 1/2 years out of date, you'll have to face the fact that it's time of usefulness is very close at hand. Having said that (I know you were aware of it BUT it was more for the pple reading this thread) we can use AnyDVD for a "patch" this time. You'll still have to use AnyDVD But since you're not that concerned with quality, you might wish to look into 1Click CopyDVD as a truly, 1-click program giving you the exact same quality as XCopy AND they are updating it all the time.
Here are the reverent links:
AnyDVD - http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html
DVD Decrypter - http://www.dvddecrypter.com/
1ClickDVDCopy - http://www.1clickdvdcopy.com/
Cheers,
Pete
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ScubaBud
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19. February 2005 @ 15:10 |
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I have a Cyber-Home that will play a Mushroom Pizza if the cheese isn't too thick.
Winner for the best line of the week!!!
That was great!
May I use that one without royalties please? :)
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ScubaPete
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19. February 2005 @ 15:25 |
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An addition:
In glancing back through this thread and seeing the problem that 222333444 had when he started this thread, I cannot over stress the importance of using a decent media. It has been my experience and those of numerous pple in this forum that using a good media could eliminate many problems.
A short ScubaPete lecture ~
Memorex is an excellent example as DVD media goes, 90% of Memorex, made by CMC, is sub-standard as far as DVD backups are concerned, figures as high as 50% coasters have been reported (One member bought a stack of 50 and got 23 good burns.), not what I would call an impressive record. Memorex made a name for itself with their magnetic tapes (VHS and audio cassettes) and have been living off it ever since. There are 4 different companies that manufacture Memorex DVD's BTW and product quality varies widely as you might imagine. Only 10% of the Memorex out there, those are discs manufactured by Mitsubishi in the 25 pack spindle , and they're the exception - they are the good ones. It's easy to see now why the quality of a big-named company can't be trusted - " Who's making your Memorex tonight ?"
Is it just Memorex ? No ! I just used Memorex as an example, Princo, Orange Pack, Great AZO and most "store" discs aren't all that suitable as a DVD backup media - that's why we are specific in the type of media we are recommending.
1. * Cheap media freezes, skips, pixelats and may refuse to be recognized by both burners and players :-( Besides "Freezing", "skips" many times you'll get a "Cyclic Redundancy error" or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won't accept your "cheap" media :-(
Another problem which, "Pops up" is a "*Power Calibration Error". This can stop you right in your tracks and most often is caused by, Yep, you guessed it, inexpensive media. *A "Power Calibration Error" can also be attributed to the Optical Components of a DVD Writer, though this isn't usually the case.
Orange Pack, Princo, Great AZO and 90% of Memorex plus many others are just not that good for DVD burning. Those same discs however, are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets and Data..Even DataSafe G04's made by Ritek have been reported as an inferior quality media and are evoking that "Oh no, I shouldn't have gotten those."
What we are suggesting is to download this DVD Identifier to find out who manufactured your DVD and if it's a decent quality.
http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
Once you have your disc identified, click the "More information" icon and see what information you're given. if you're not sure of the quality, come on back and we'll check it out for you -
2. A good grade, Hi-quality media is needed for DVD reproduction ! RiData, Phillips, Sony, TDK, "Branded" Ritek G04's or "Branded" Verbatim Data Life, Verbatim DataLife plus, Taiyo Yuden's and generally, almost any discs manufactured by Mitsubishi or RICOH are excellent bets. Among the better discs we're looking for, any media boasting "Advanced Metal AZO" - BUT it must say "METAL" AZO !, this indicates a superior dye and dye application on a good composite disc, while they are sometimes a bit "pricey" they are just the type of media we're looking for to do our DVD backups, Prices online from Meritline.com OR Newegg.com have gotten Ritek G04 starting at about a $ .45 (USD) a disc -
For DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win BUT the majority lose, they lose varying amounts true but, they still lose :-(
Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty; it surely cannot hurt.
In an effort to clear the air, when I speak of "Cheap" or "Inexpensive" media, I'm not referring to the price you pay at the counter - I'm referring to poor quality control used during manufacturing and the quality of the dye, dye application or composite type used. I'm not saying it won't burn - Some may burn, some may not. It's quality is inconsistent, meaning it's not dependable. To make matters worse, many times the discs that you do burn may play in your PC BUT your standalone player may not accept them - what good then is a backup DVD that cannot be watched on a DVD player ?
When I say "Branded," that means that when you pick up a disc in your hand, it says "Ritek" or "RiData" on the disc itself. The monetary cost of the media we recommend many times is cheaper than what you are purchasing now.
We like to verify our information prior to recommending things. There are certain things we look at. For instance, when their dye and dye application are listed as unknown, this almost guarantees us they are using whatever they can get at a cheap price. Companies that use quality materials like to BRAG about it, naming names and staying with quality manufacturers who produce their media.
Using DVD identifier and MediaMatch can help you find out a lot about what you're using. Purchasing your DVD media online can insure that you're getting quality merchandise at a good price. Shopping wisely will save you time, aggravation and money.
Cheers all,
Pete
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cjl52346,
You might wish to download DVD Identifier and check those Great AZO's out. Once you've gotten to the first information line, click on the "Search" Icon and see how many "Non-Mfgrs" there are making that disc :) You'll get quite a chuckle ~
ScubaBud,The royalties are yours (Lol).
Send me my 10%, OK ?
Cheers Guys,
Pete
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cjl52346
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6. April 2005 @ 07:14 |
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Didnt know where else to post so sorry if wrong place.Just tried to copy Spanglish from Columbia which was same company that put out other recent releases that wouldnt copy on DVDXCOPY but would copy using DVD Shrink and dvd decryptor per Scuba Pete's instruction,this film will not decrypt using dvdshrink with dvd 43free or dvd decryptor by itself(unless dvd43free which was running in background interferred with running dvd decryptor by itself which it seems to do with DVDXCOPY.Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated assuming its not me botching things up.Thanks!
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6. April 2005 @ 07:39 |
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Make sure all your programs are updated. Then DO A SEARCH! There are a nearly a half dozen threads with many responses debating and listing and complaining about SPANGLISH. Read and enjoy.
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cjl52346
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6. April 2005 @ 08:22 |
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thanks
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cjl52346
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6. April 2005 @ 08:34 |
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6. April 2005 @ 08:37 |
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hey 223344, 1clickdvd copy is a good prog. either ur comp. or/and ur disc are a s---
Nero Recode2 or Shrink using deep analysis and AEC/ fabdecrypter or anydvd running in the background/ IMGBurn to burn/main movie only mode= perfect.
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ScubaPete
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6. April 2005 @ 10:20 |
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@elizerroj,
Please post in English so pple can understand you.
Thanks ~
@cjl52346,
When you use DVDD, rip the disc in the ISO mode. Ripping in the File mode only copies the file structure not the entire disc.
Let's take a moment to fine-tune your DVD Decrypter's settings. First, it should be version 3.5.4.0. Go to "Tools", "Settings", set everything to "Default". Then in the "General" tab change, "Removal Method" from "Normal" to "Aggressive", in "File Mode", "tick" Remove IFO/BUP PUO's." For ripping in the "ISO, Read Mode", "tick" "Remove IFO/BUP PUO's" there also. in the "CSS" tab, under "CSS Cracking Method", choose "Brute Force ~> I/O Key Exchange" and "On Failure" choose "Yes". . IMPORTANT: In the "I / O" tab, in the bottom right, "tick" the box which says, "Ignore read errors". This is an excellent setting for dealing with lightly scratched discs which may cause reading problems. We're now finished with our settings here so click "OK." There's no reason to change these settings. DVDD is good ripper right out of the box, all we did is to give it some "teeth." (Lol :)
WHEN RIPPING A TROUBLESOME DVD or an episodel DVD, I use DVD Decrypter in the ISO Mode -
REASON: When you rip a DVD in the "File" Mode, you only copy the file structure. When ripping a DVD in the "ISO" Mode, you copy the entire disc just as it is. Every nuance, camera angle, etc.
When ripping in the "ISO" Mode, we want to create a folder to hold our ISO image files. You will have an .ISO file and a .Mds file. Not to worry, DVD Shrink makes picking up an ISO image as easy as pie. Open DVD Shrink and go to"File" - "Open Disc Image", "Browse" for the folder you created to hold your Image files and select the .Mds file. Yes I know, the size is very small and it seems that the entire DVD is held in the ISO file BUT everything will open fine. Let DVD Shrink pickup the file and then process as usual. If you want to use another proggy, you can use ISO Buster to change your ISO Image back to your VOB files, it only takes a second to convert them.
Give it a shot and see how it works ?
Pete
ISO Buster ~
http://www.smart-projects.net/isobuster/
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cjl52346
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6. April 2005 @ 11:03 |
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thank you Sir
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ScubaPete
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6. April 2005 @ 14:17 |
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Anyime :)
It's what we're here for ~
Caio
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