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leestrada
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16. February 2005 @ 07:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have been capturing with a Dazzle DVC 150 in usb 2 using a Dell 4500 2 Ghz with 768 Mhz RAM

Results are great compared with the older DVC 80 which was usb 1.1

No sync prob's and video never drops any frames.
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tmog
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11. March 2005 @ 10:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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...Most people agree that USB is not fast enough to capture video. My 2 cents anyhow.
Question #1: Are you talking about capturing video on USB 2.0 or USB 1.1?
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Hardware encoding takes a major load off the CPU.
Question #2: Is this really true?



TMOG
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11. March 2005 @ 12:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Even USB 2.0 can be hard pressed to capture full D1.
Yes, a hardware encoder onboard the capture device takes between 90 and 100% of the load off the CPU.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
tmog
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11. March 2005 @ 12:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Someone should just pick out a video capture card that is not expensive and I will go buy it.

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11. March 2005 @ 13:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hauppauge PVR-250. Probably the best "bang for the buck" in hardware encoder cards. It's internal though, not USB (if that's what you're looking for now).
Comes with a decent software package too.
If you happen to be in Europe, I have a PAL version of that card for sale <wink>.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
tmog
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11. March 2005 @ 14:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Jim,

You are always the one to come through and you don't complain about helping people. I am in Georgia, USA. Where are you? Yeah, I would be interested in a PCI Video capture card like the one you described here. (Hauppauge PVR-250). But I'm guessing I will need to stick to the NTSC.


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tmog
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11. March 2005 @ 15:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Considering it's a DVR & I aready own one of those. What would be the next best thing with Vid capture cards?

TMOG

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 11. March 2005 @ 15:44

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11. March 2005 @ 16:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
All capture cards could be considered "DVR's".
The difference is that this card doesn't care how good (or bad) your other hardware is, it will capture with never a dropped frame, never a complaint (except about hard drive space for those 8 hour Buffy marathons) <grin>.
It comes with enough software to capture from VCR, Hi-8 cam, Digital video cam, dvd player, whatever....just about any source with video OR audio out. Yes, it will even capture audio from any stereo hi-fi system, radio, whatever...as well as any TV station you currently get, either from antenna, cable, digital cable, or satellite.
If the incoming box has some sort of output, the PVR-250 can be plugged into, and you can get it on your computer.
It also comes with some reasonable editing and authoring software (Ulead DVD movie factory), so you don't have to purchase an editor or authoring app.
There are some excellent 3rd party applications for it as well. Things like GB-PVR which makes it just like your standalone PVR, but you can use the PVR-250's remote on your computer with it (the stock WinTV2000 does this too).

Yes, you'll need the NTSC version, and BTW, I'm way north in B.C. Canada :)

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Cheers, Jim
tmog
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11. March 2005 @ 17:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For the Hauppauge PVR-250 can I use any software to capture video?
Can I use the MyDVD 5 authoring software option to get video from vid capture card?
Same with the DVDLab standard will it inport video in from the Hauppauge PVR-250?
My question my have been redundant. Sorry.

TMOG
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11. March 2005 @ 18:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, MyDVD 5 supports the Hauppauge PVR-250.
Details are on this page: http://www.sonic.com/products/mydvd/common/video.asp
You can also get GB-PVR, which is free.
There are a bunch of other programs you can capture with. Nerovision Express, Intervideo WinDVD Creator, etc, but you only really need Sonic MyDVD5.
I'm downloading the Sonic MyDVD 5 trial now, so I'll test it, and report back in a bit.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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11. March 2005 @ 20:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, it won't install for me...no matter.
According to the Sonic MyDVD website, you should be able to capture, edit, author, and burn, all with that one program, using the Hauppauge PVR-250.
Notice on the link above, they tell you what cards they support. Maybe you could investigate one of the others if you like. It's not a very long list...

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
tmog
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11. March 2005 @ 22:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-250 is that model 980?
What do you think about the WinTV-PVR-350? Better than the 250? I want to get it cheap.


TMOG
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12. March 2005 @ 08:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 350 has the same chip as the 250. Quality is identical, but the 350 has more bells and whistles.
This is the one: http://www.hauppauge.com/Pages/products/data_pvr250.html

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Cheers, Jim
tmog
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12. March 2005 @ 09:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I heard the WinTV-PVR 150 was better and less expensive and based on the 250 & 350. But, I couldn't tell you the difference between them all other then it's less expensive & it's newer. What do you think Jim?

TMOG
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12. March 2005 @ 09:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 150 has a different chip, and right now, there are some serious issues with audio sync. Until hauppauge fixes this, with a flash of some sort, or driver, I would not buy one.
I definitely would say they're not better at all.
check the forums here: http://www.shspvr.com/forum/index.php

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
roryoss
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12. March 2005 @ 10:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
after reading all that i wouldnt have bought one either, but i did 3 days ago before reading all that!! and it works beautifully i captured a vhs video and made a dvd within 3 hrs of install works much better than the plextor Av100u, i coulnt get the driver to load for !! i couldnt be happier with the 150 it works great and the tv and audio no problems!!!!!!!!
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13. March 2005 @ 11:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I know that Hauppauge were working on the 150 problems. Not everyone had them, but some did, on certain motherboards, with certain chipsets.
I'm glad you like your 150 :)
Read lots more about them at http://www.shspvr.com/forum/

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
tmog
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13. March 2005 @ 21:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow, I hope I don't have those problems as described in the shspvr.com forums with the 150. I was thinking about getting the 150 but Jim showed me the way.
Roryoss, produce more DVD's with VHS and let me know how it goes for you. I am ready to get a video capture card, so I can start creating more DVD's, but I am researching all avenues first. You know, getting prepared.

TMOG
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14. March 2005 @ 06:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Those forums really open your eyes, when it comes to the differences in the Hauppauge cards :)
I know there's other makes/models. If you hunt around, there's a reasonable hardware mpeg-2 encoder card from Diamond. It's cheaper than the Hauppauge 250, but it also doesn't have the 3rd party software support. You have to use the software that came with the card, and it's not the best (for TV and cam captures).

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
jcnieves
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28. August 2005 @ 18:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Guys, I'm trying to get to work this Pinnacle DVC 90 USB with my Win 2000 thinkpad, just downloaded the drivers for win 2k but video does not work, audio is null, I think this doesnt work at all on win 2k ???

I also tried it on a Win 98 machine with the corresponding drivers but no luck.

I'm desesperated :0 ! I dont want to update to Winxp since this is my office's machine and need to work with Win2k.

Please help!!! :0
my mail is nieves64@hotmail.com
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28. August 2005 @ 19:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Return it and get one that works with Win2K.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
jcnieves
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28. August 2005 @ 19:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi.
Yes, this driver is supposed to work for win2k, that's why I'm confused.
Video is not good and no audio att all. AM Capture works like that, but Studio 9.4 doesnt display any image at all.

By the way this is a USB 1.1 version.
Please help.
jcnieves
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29. August 2005 @ 06:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'll try upgrading to USB 2.0 and ill let you know what happened.
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29. August 2005 @ 08:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Video output could be the result of the video card, drivers for it, the capture codec used, and the playback codec, and nothing to do with the capture device.
How is audio set up on that device? Is it a separate cable?
If not, the manual should explain how to set up the software for the audio source.
Have you got an audio cable from the source to the device?

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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jcnieves
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29. August 2005 @ 08:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, separated cables composite signal.

Card says USB2.0 only, this is 1.1, I'll upgrade and let you guys know.
 
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