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Thedemon9
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24. February 2005 @ 11:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cheers, sorry to keep wasting your time like this but i cant understand why its just the sims 2 which wont copy
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24. February 2005 @ 17:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
select Image making wizard/ read speed at 4x/ Datatype: Safedisc 2/3 and hit next and let er rip, once the image is done dumping which may take awhile and you will get alot of disc read errors which is normal, you can right click on the image when its done and select Image burning wizard/ select Next/ Write speed at 4x/ Datatype: Safedisc 2/3 and let er burn.

Any more Questions feel free to ask.
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25. February 2005 @ 05:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
my plexter for sum reason will only burn at 10x, it will read at 4x but will only burn at 10x, need help with that, will i need emulation after that???

also will i need raw dao, raw sao + sub wot will i need, i tried that sheep test, it passed to sheep but couldnt do that bad.dat

1 more thing, i read on a website that the 716a could only copy up to safedisc 2.5x and no higher

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Thedemon9
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25. February 2005 @ 07:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
tried it, it only works with hide cdr media enabled with clone cd, it doesnt work with ignore media type in alcohol, ne more thoughts on this??

do i need ignore media type enables when i copy it??? because ive been doing it whilst it is disabled

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25. February 2005 @ 07:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I fits working then just leave it alone. Also Clonecd likes to blacklist Safedisc protected games and Im willing to bet if you uninstalled clonecd it'll work fine.

If you see a "NEED EMULATION" over you image then thats when you need enable emulation, if you don't see that then your ok
Thedemon9
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25. February 2005 @ 09:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
uninstalled clone cd, no difference

the image works fine, its just when i put it onto disk that it conks up

retried it with sub channel data activated still no difference
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25. February 2005 @ 09:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know what else to say???

Let me look at other forums and see what I can dig up.
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25. February 2005 @ 09:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is a quote from -pollushon- from cdfreaks.com
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If you used Alcohols default safedisc 2x/3x datatype, burnt it as slow as possible and enabled all emulations...Never Fear, mount the image you made in a virtual drive. (Virtual Drives always work with Safedisc)

Thedemon9
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25. February 2005 @ 11:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thats all well and gud, but im after a non emulated backup, ive had no problem from my virtual copy, but it just wont go onto backup without emulation? is it not possible for me to make a non emulated backup??
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25. February 2005 @ 11:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As I read around various forums, it seems alot of people have issues with this PC game and protection, so sad to say it might be a hardware issue and you are probably out of luck :(....sorry
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25. February 2005 @ 12:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i thought u sed it could do safedisc 3, do u actually own a 716a, doesnt matta if it doesnt, ill ave 2 emulate, tried doing doom 3 with alcohol on safedisc 2/3 without efm bypass on, no luk without emulation again
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25. February 2005 @ 12:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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i thought u sed it could do safedisc 3
It should but maybe there is somthing else that is conflicting with the copy process or some other conflictions that won't allow you to make a the backupwork. Try to install the game on a buddy's computer and see if that works (If possible)
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do u actually own a 716a
For some reason I sense a little testiness in your attitude.

BTW I own a Pioneer DVR-109 and you asked the same question before and I answerd you before.

I understand your frustration but by the looks of it your probably not going to get a working cd-r backup so you might be stuck using virtual drives.

Try another media

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25. February 2005 @ 13:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For what it's worth I'm not thoroughly convinced of the accuracy of the "sheep test" and recall having read that the test isn't a 100% confirmation one way or the other. Basically it's possible that the 716A isn't a 2-sheeper.


@ Thedemon9

What were the exact settings you used for BlindWrite 4.57?



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Thedemon9
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26. February 2005 @ 04:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i didnt mean to sound angry with ya geestar

do u no of a dvd writer which can copy safedisc 3 cds
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26. February 2005 @ 07:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Plextor PX-708A and 712A along with the Lite On 4xx and 8xx series are all proven EFM capable DVD burners. I've used my 708A to make working copies (no emulation needed) of SafeDisc 3.20.022.



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Thedemon9
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26. February 2005 @ 11:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so........ if the 708 can y cant my 716
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26. February 2005 @ 12:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i bought the plextor 716a a couple of weeks ago and put it through the "sheep" burner test and it passed as a 2 sheep burner.i am also having lots of problems with sims2 also.even with plextor premium writer.
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26. February 2005 @ 19:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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so........ if the 708 can y cant my 716
Not all drives are made the same. If they were we wouldn't have to mess with sheep ratings. EFM capable DVD burners are a rare breed.

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i am also having lots of problems with sims2 also.even with plextor premium writer.
You never answered me before - did you use the exact settings I gave you for BlindWrite 4.57? Those settings with a Plex Premium have worked for many people.



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27. February 2005 @ 00:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
but surely theyd make the next model up the same
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27. February 2005 @ 08:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sorry yes i did use the settings you gave me for bw 4.5 and it did not work.
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27. February 2005 @ 09:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ Thedemon9
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but surely theyd make the next model up the same
Not necessarily. For example, when the PX-708A came out everyone wondered if it would have the same Varirate writing method that the Plex Premium had since Varirate worked like magic on SecuROM games but it didn't. Plextor could have if they wanted but chose not to and I guess only God and Plextor know why.



@mykle

I'm at a complete loss to explain why those settings with a Plex Premium didn't work. What error do you get when trying to run the copy you made with those settings?



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27. February 2005 @ 13:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the error said,"please insert the correct cd and restart the game".the premium would start to read it normally for a couple of seconds and then it would sound like it is skipping.it is a weird noise that it makes.then you would get the error.
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27. February 2005 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What happens if you run the disc from your Samsung ROM?



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27. February 2005 @ 17:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
same error and same noise.
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27. February 2005 @ 18:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Have you tried with different types of media?



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