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9. May 2005 @ 14:38 |
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I too have had excellent results with Sony dvd+rw's (Phillips 041).
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9. May 2005 @ 19:45 |
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Scubabud,
There's a lot of good media made in Taiwan. However, there is an abundance of poor products made there as well. An informed consumer knows to buy name brand items that carry a good guarantee, no matter where it comes from. Ritek, which is (or was) a favorite of several forums is made in Taiwan. Ritek even sold Ricoh as their +R offering, I'm not sure if they still do. I've seen +R coded Riteks. Used to Ritek was a -R product, with Ritek-Ridata being the +R, as mentioned with some Ricoh in the mix. Also, Ritek is a manufacturer for many brands. Plus, just running out and buying Verbatim won't insure the top quality. Verbatim sells high end and lower quality media. The Datalife Plus with the Azo dye is a top quality item. There are the lesser items manufactured by CMC Magnetics, the company that gave Memorex a bad name.
Wolfniggr,
I was pointing out that the brands you mentioned aren't always made in Japan. Plus the fact that bitsetting in many cases is a waste of time unless someone has an old player that has to have a DVD ROM. Most standalone media compatibility problems have been solved with only a few of the old stragglers left hanging on. I've gone to +R almost extensively, they work faster in my burner drive. I've yet to have a compatibility problem and I've done more backups than most and used more different software than most in the process. As was pointed out, some drives don't even support bitsetting and their manufacturers aren't going to add it unless there is some standards set up.
Just out of curiosity, does DVDInfoPro see your booktyped -R as a DVD ROM as well?
In reality though, unless one has an old player that has to have DVD-ROM, bitsetting is uncalled for. Also, if a person doesn't have a drive that bitsets, it's cheaper to buy a compatible player than a new burner. Also, the new player will play everyone elses recorded media, usually including CDs and RWs.
Karlai,
Burn at the speed that works best for you. Used to be, 4X burning was sort of a standard. Drives and media have improved. People are burning at faster speeds without problems. It depends on media quality, how good the burner is and the software in use. The combinations vary and the exact same results are not always achieved with similar PCs. So burn a few discs at higher speeds. If you have problems, the first thing you should do is slow it down to see if fast burning is the problem. If you want to be more on the sure side, then do everything at 4X. It's a decision you'll need to make for your setup and the way you want to do things. I've been told that burning games is a more critical process and many still do that at 1X to ensure maximum quality. Games are more demanding on the player than DVD video movies.
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9. May 2005 @ 20:32 |
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brobear, you replied to my media suggestion the way you did because of a misunderstanding. The fact that changing the booktype of a disc to dvd-rom for more compatibility isn't the issue in this thread. I've only change the booktype per someone elses request when I'm backing up their disc. I personally don't have to ever do this because every dvd drive and player I own will play any format I put in it. I was originally answering karla's questions and it turned into answering mort's questions and humoring his curiosity about what I had found by chance. I don't see how your comment helped anyone in this thread and I feel you were being condescending whether this was your intention or not. I don't ever use disc identifiers, but I downloaded DVD Identifier per mort's request.(He was curious to see the result)
As for my friend with the +R/RW drive has 5 DL dual format burners. I asked him if he could reinstall his old drive to test my disc as a favor for me. Unfortunatly he got rid of it over 2 years ago so now I'm looking for another way to test the compatibility of this mysterious disc. I was never really that concerned about the compatibility of it until yesterday, but I really don't care to go to far out of my way to see whether or not this will work in a + drive.
Mort, if you have any other simple suggestions on what else I could do to test this disc, let me know.
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9. May 2005 @ 21:16 |
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Wolfniggr,
Then you should read it again. Seems you were only interested in the parts that weren't in agreement with you. My discussion on media should have been helpful to Karlai, and others, if she understood what I was referring to. That being the fact that one needs to do some in depth research to understand the media market. You have a few big manufacturers that are supplying different brands with the same media. In fact you can get the same media at different prices under different brands. That's where the companies selling the brands are relying on their name in the marketplace, selling the name more than the product.
I have bought Ricohjpn media in Maxell, Imation, Verbatim, Fuji, Memorex, and a couple others I'm probably forgetting. It's a favorite of mine. Then you have the +R TYs in Fuji, the company also sells or sold the +R Ricohs, both top manufactured items. So, the relevance of much of my discussion was on the fact that knowing the manufacturer of a media can be more important than the brand. With some database studying, one can learn more about what media they can expect to get when buying a certain brand. Of course realizing that the companies change suppliers, it isn't even a sure thing when you've done the homework.
Still, the media code identifiers are important. Just saying I had Fuji media doesn't tell anyone anything. Adding that it is a +R TY and adding the Code is more helpful in identification and doing comparisons with other people who have used the same media. Even in the same item sold by a brand, such as a 4X +R, there can be multiple manufactureres. So, yes ID of a media is important. You should have known that by now. If you want to talk media, you should include manufacturing data as well as brand, who manufactured it tells more than a brand anyway. The best Verbatim is Mitsubishi, TY, and Ricoh manufactured. Sony is also made by multiple manufacturers as well as Sony manufacturing. I don't believe I need to go further on this.
I only mentioned bitsetting because you had steered the discussion in that direction. If you didn't want to talk about it you shouldn't have gone into so much detail about something many, it seems you included, tend to think borders on the irrelevant.
I also mentioned to Karlai about the burning speeds which should be helpful. The old "everything at 4X speed" is only necessary with poorer burners and media. So that discussion topic should have been helpful. I also agree that faster speeds are more prone to errors, but they don't happen all the time. That was the warning to slow down if speed is indicated as a problem. Helpful, or should everyone listen to you and use their burners at only 4X.
If I appeared to be condescending, paranoia affects some people that way. It's not your privilige to call me down here on the forum. If you think I've gone too far, tell a mod. I'll post to threads as I see fit. If you have a relevant topic to discuss, do it. It is in bad taste to make things personal here on the forum.
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9. May 2005 @ 21:45 |
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If I appeared to be condescending, paranoia affects some people that way. It's not your privilige to call me down here on the forum. If you think I've gone too far, tell a mod. I'll post to threads as I see fit. If you have a relevant topic to discuss, do it. It is in bad taste to make things personal here on the forum.
I agree, it is in bad taste to get personal on this forum, especially when we don't even know each other. If you feel you need a mod to step in, that's your prerogative. It seems you misunderstood some of the things I said in previous replies and it has just escalated from there. I hope this can be avoided in the future.
Anyway, karla I hope you got the help you needed to get started. I'll be talking to you later mort.
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9. May 2005 @ 22:10 |
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I was originally answering karla's questions and it turned into answering mort's questions and humoring his curiosity about what I had found by chance. I don't see how your comment helped anyone in this thread and I feel you were being condescending whether this was your intention or not.
And I was replying to the thread which was supposed to be trying to help Karlai and my intent was to put in some input so she and other Newbies wouldn't be lead down the garden path.
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Whoa, cold medication and alcohol seem to be taking effect, night, night.
Humor or the truth? Part of the discussion, bitsetting (especially -R), was from left field and shouldn't have even been in this thread.
I don't find your calling me condescending worthy of calling for a mod. I was just saying don't make it personal. We don't agree on methods or how in depth one should get with discussions. I was trying to be helpful and was supplying a different point of view. If you want to ask around, you'll find I rarely shoot my mouth off about things I don't know about. So, much of what I have to say is useful for the newbies. Karlai could have learned from what I was saying. With media, try some name brands and use a DVD Identifier to know what particular media is being used. From that she can make some factual decisions for herself. Also, experiment with the burn speeds, she's not stuck to 4X and many people burn successfully at higher speeds without problems. You were the one with the initial complaint that I was being condescending and my topics were of no help. That's why I said to take it to a mod as it had no place on the forum. So let's let it die, obviously we agree on little.
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9. May 2005 @ 22:17 |
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So let's let it die, obviously we agree on little.
Well good, cause I agree also :)
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9. May 2005 @ 23:09 |
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Hey Flip, top of the morning to you. Guess if we look hard enough, we can all agree on something. ;)
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10. May 2005 @ 04:10 |
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Taiwan makes a lot of good media and Ritek is one of the most notable manufacturers. Taiwan makes a lot of excellent media, however much of the no name media comes from there as well.
In my previous post I also wanted to add the Sony media I listed, Sony DVD-R 8X (SONY08D1) and Sony DVD+R 8X (SONY D11), as also Good/Excellent Taiwan media. I also obviously agree based on my Sony media examples and statement, that not all Taiwan media is bad. :)
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10. May 2005 @ 04:21 |
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what speed do u guys burn?and brand?and software?:D
I burn at 8X
I use the Sony media I showed in my previous posts.
I use AnyDVD in the background and Nero Recode2, movie only.
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10. May 2005 @ 04:27 |
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i'll chip in add my five pence. I use only Verbatim datalifeplus at the moment, so far i've had these from Taiwan, also from Singapore & India., all without problems.
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10. May 2005 @ 13:20 |
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WHAT BLANK DVDS SHOULD I USE FOR MY EMPREX DVD DUAL 16X?
I have 2 of these, so this is why I originally replied.
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PD:SHOULD I USE DVD+R OR DVD-R
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As far as what format to use, it is up to what your dvd players like. If you use +R, you can change the booktype of these to DVD-Rom for better compatibility. I don't know how, but I can also change the booktype of -R media to DVD-Rom with the 16x emprex burners. Anyway, good luck.
Just stating the capabilities of this burner.
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Part of the discussion, bitsetting (especially -R), was from left field and shouldn't have even been in this thread.
I didn't think giving her info on her burner was out of left field. Though you're entitled to your opinion, don't tell me what I can or can't include in my responses and I will do the same for you.
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Wolfniggr, I was pointing out that the brands you mentioned aren't always made in Japan
I never said they were, as a matter of fact, I replied again to clear up the misunderstanding before you made that comment.
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Wolfniggr, Then you should read it again.
Maybe you should, too.
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If you want to ask around, you'll find I rarely shoot my mouth off about things I don't know about.
I guess I should feel lucky?
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10. May 2005 @ 15:33 |
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Well good, cause I agree also :)
You should pay attention to Flips statement he's the mod. I'm not getting involved with you, you're not worth the trouble. You may be trying to be helpful, but not many seem to agree with you and you don't seem to like it when others voice conflicting opinions. You can say what you wish, and Karlai can pay attention to you if she wishes. Free forum. However the varying opinions are there, so I guess people can form their own opinions.
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I guess I should feel lucky?
If you say so... ;)
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Heh, Heh, Heh... sorta after the fact, this thread turned into a stinker. Flip can close a thread and herbsman can open it to add his opinion. ;) I think we all consider this one better off dead.
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10. May 2005 @ 18:18 |
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oh look ... threads closed :)
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11. May 2005 @ 08:52 |
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thank goodness for that !!! :-)
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