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8. June 2005 @ 15:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@CREAKY:

First, my apologies to everyone for using forum space to respond to CREAKY's message, but I don't know CREAKY's home address.

CREAKY! ... c'mon man. Put the bottle away and FOCUS.

I'm baffled. Why on earth would you think I was touting Memorex media? I've read and re-read my post, and for the life of me I can't figure you out. If anyone (other than you, of course) were to get the idea that I was touting one disc over another, I would think Memorex wouldn't even make the list, as it's the one that's failing as we speak.

I've read and re-read your post also, and in your defense, I'll cut you some slack because it's now clear to me that you didn't even read the posts, but relied on your Senior Member ESP to formulate your response. You admonish dametony:
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"we don't even know what media you're using, never mind that your drive doesn't know what media you're using"
when not only does dametony state on 06/06/05 @ 22:43
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i've been using the same media that i've used all along: verbatim DVD+R
but I reconfirmed that when I wrote on 06/08/05 @ 13:17
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You say you're using the same as always - Verbatim DVD+R.
It would appear that not only does dametony's drive knows what media is being used. I know what media dametony's using, and anyone who read this thread knows what media dametony is using. Or, I guess another way of putting it is,
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Everyone and everything knows what media dametony is using except you!
And no disrespect intended (as you say ... NOT!!), but as far as your comment to dametony,
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the entire thread is danger of confusing you, and us,
I ... uh ... think that maybe just one person suffers confusion. If there's more, then I'm certain they became afflicted after reading your post. Or perhaps it was after seeing "Senior member" after your name.

Yikes! Help me out on this one. Maybe my husband IS right after all and I AM crazy.
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dametony
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8. June 2005 @ 15:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
kcnew...now, now...let's not amplify any potential hostilities. i, too, am very confused at creaky's inability to get info from posts (such as the fact that i already said i updated my firmware, or that i said that i had figured out how to do the ASPI thing, or that you had already shown me how to do the printscreen thing), but let's not go overboard.

addressing some questions/concerns:

i've been using those verbatim discs for two years. why would they suddenly stop working for me? that doesn't make any sense to me. back when i was having trouble with sonic, i couldn't burn anything, any media. once i got Nero running, my old media worked fine. but now Nero has ceased functioning, too.

why would i now need to make the disc size smaller in DVD Shrink when it's worked fine for me to leave it alone for something over 100 burns?

what is "packet writing software"? you said it causes problems with Nero, but, as i've said multiple times, neither my:

1)sonic recordnow!
nor my
2)nero

will burn DVD's or do player-to-recorder exact copies of CD's. as i stated a few posts ago, i think just focusing on the Nero aspect is a mistake, as the only reason i have Nero at all is because i got it when my sonic recordnow! stopped burning DVD's. and now Nero has stopped, too. oh, and i forgot to mention: i can't seem to get either program to erase my DVD+RW's anymore. they won't even read them.

so this is why i think my burner is shitting the bed. i have no idea how to definitively tell, though. does anyone?

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kcnew, to answer a specific question --

no, i only started having DVD troubles with my current spindle after i'd already used, oh, thirty or so discs out of it already. so i don't think that's it.

we'll make it through this, yet. let's just be nice, everyone.
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8. June 2005 @ 15:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but one more thing ...

Regarding ASPI, CREAKY offers
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that's because you have to download the drivers, THEN run it to install it
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Good advice (perhaps, but I've lost all faith) but in that dametony wrote, just a half hour after his/her post addressing ASPI, one inch down on the afterdawn screen, and thirteen hours before CREAKY's help(cough)
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okay, here's an update. i figured out how to install the ASPI stuff,
I seriously doubt that anyone who actually needs ASPI help will find CREAKY's advice buried in this thread entitled plagued by DVD burning troubles.

I'm convinced I could be a Senior member, too, if I just wrote about something I knew, whether or not it was at all responsive to the readers' problem. Watch HERE for my upcoming posts entitled, "How To Install Crown Moulding" and "The Proper Way To Perform The Heimlich Maneuver."

NOT! (Sorry, but it was just so darned cute when CREAKY wrote it.)
kcnew
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8. June 2005 @ 16:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Newb dametony:

You're right. Sorry. Our posts crossed in the mail. I'll be good.
dametony
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8. June 2005 @ 19:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
okay, so check this out: i just burned a disc with no problems. why would THAT be?

i'm really pretty convinced that my burner is either shot or really dirty. anyone care to suggest otherwise?

the only way this reasoning doesn't make sense to me is that i can burn regular CD's okay.
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9. June 2005 @ 03:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@kcnew -
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First, my apologies to everyone for using forum space to respond to CREAKY's message, but I don't know

CREAKY's home address.

CREAKY! ... c'mon man. Put the bottle away and FOCUS.
- i'll let that slide, i'm thick skinned (and wasn't drinking btw)
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I'm baffled. Why on earth would you think I was touting Memorex media? I've read and re-read my post, and for the life of me I can't figure you out. If anyone (other than you, of course) were to get the idea that I was touting one disc over another, I would think Memorex wouldn't even make the list, as it's the one that's failing as we speak.
- i've since re-read your first reply, and mine, and have gone back and edited the Memorex statement as i clearly mis-read your post. Am grown up enough to admit i had a blonde moment so havw quite happily edited that reply and apologised for not reading your reply correctly. My reply was not intended to be condescending but was obviously taken as so. Can't help that, i mis-read your reply, which led me to make an incorrect reply which in turn might have wound you up. But to continue with the statements that follow shows that an axe began to be ground on your part.
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I've read and re-read your post also, and in your defense, I'll cut you some slack because it's now clear to me that you didn't even read the posts, but relied on your Senior Member ESP to formulate your response. You admonish dametony:

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"we don't even know what media you're using, never mind that your drive doesn't know what media you're using"
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when not only does dametony state on 06/06/05 @ 22:43

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i've been using the same media that i've used all along: verbatim DVD+R
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but I reconfirmed that when I wrote on 06/08/05 @ 13:17

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You say you're using the same as always - Verbatim DVD+R.
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It would appear that not only does dametony's drive knows what media is being used. I know what media dametony's using, and anyone who read this thread knows what media dametony is using. Or, I guess another way of putting it is,
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Everyone and everything knows what media dametony is using except you!
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- i was working from dametony's logfile of 08/06/05 @03:01, simply quoting what i saw in the logfile at that point. I was and am well aware of the comments re the same media being used. However the logfile is what's important here. I attack logfiles piece by piece and report on what i see. My poor old brain just can't remember everything in an entire post word for word, which is amplified by the fact that i don't just offer help on one post, but many, many posts at a time.
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You admonish dametony: "we don't even know what media you're using, never mind that your drive doesn't know what media you're using"
- no admonishing going on there, and for accusing me of that, i'm afraid you're bang out of order; the statement i made 'we don't even know what media you're using' is obviously wrong; hell i am plagued by goldfish memory and some of those that follow my posts will probably recall that i do tend to acknowledge this by mentioning my memory problems in some of my replies to people. My colleagues would acknowledge i have memory blips too. As i'd already mentioned above, at this point i had my brain focused on the logfile and that's what mattered at this point.
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And no disrespect intended (as you say ... NOT!!), but as far as your comment to dametony,
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the entire thread is danger of confusing you, and us,
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I ... uh ... think that maybe just one person suffers confusion. If there's more, then I'm certain they became afflicted after reading your post. Or perhaps it was after seeing "Senior member" after your name.

Yikes! Help me out on this one. Maybe my husband IS right after all and I AM crazy.
- and on it goes
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kcnew...now, now...let's not amplify any potential hostilities. i, too, am very confused at creaky's inability to get info from posts (such as the fact that i already said i updated my firmware, or that i said that i had figured out how to do the ASPI thing, or that you had already shown me how to do the printscreen thing), but let's not go overboard.
- dametony cautions you as to the path you were taking, then labels me unable to get info from posts. I'm working from the logfile - it doesn't lie!. And no offense taken to the inference of 'inability'.
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Sorry to beat a dead horse, but one more thing ...

Regarding ASPI, CREAKY offers
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that's because you have to download the drivers, THEN run it to install it
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Good advice (perhaps, but I've lost all faith) but in that dametony wrote, just a half hour after his/her post addressing ASPI, one inch down on the afterdawn screen, and thirteen hours before CREAKY's help(cough)
- and on it goes, but this time in a separate reply. That axe is grinding away nicely by now. You have joined one solitary post so you find it very easy to skip thru and calculate how long has passed since the post was first raised, for instance. I however, (my own fault!) tend to be involved in 20 or so posts a day, some of which go on for days and weeks, it's easy to miss the subtle little details. When you are at that stage you will now how easy it is to miss the little things.
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I'm convinced I could be a Senior member, too, if I just wrote about something I knew, whether or not it was at all responsive to the readers' problem. Watch HERE for my upcoming posts entitled, "How To Install Crown Moulding" and "The Proper Way To Perform The Heimlich Maneuver."
- i won't comment other than to say i make mistakes like anyone, if i notice them in time i edit them, if they're pointed out i still edit them. Funnily enough
along the way i do help some people. But for you to continue to publicly attack someone you don't know, which all started from a simple misunderstanding, as i said before, is bang out of order.

I see you have only posted on afterdawn in this one thread (nothing wrong with that nor do i consider you below me or anyone else). However to put such effort into publicly attacking someone you don't even know is a little out of order and a litte rude. What you could have done initially would have been to send me a private message and ask me if i was aware i was talking utter nonsense about the Memorex thing. Not a problem i would have happily re-read the posts and edited my posts accordingly, and publicly apologied for the mis-reading and mis-replying.
What's funny is that i've done that anyway and have simply replied to your tirade without being obnoxious as you have clearly been.



@dametony, if you want more help, pls provide further logfile info, as regardless of whether you've changed media or firmware etc, the logfile doesn't lie. If it still has a problem it should hopefully show in the log, just as it was on the last log i went thru. If as you say you've changed firmware etc (you're still at the same version as when you started the thread) the logfile still shows you've got same version. Either way the last logfile you posted showed you still had various problems to address, some or all of which could be preventing you from burning DVDs. It could well be you have a faulty burner even, but until we've been thru the logfile and corrected the problems i've pointed out, at this point even a burner swapout might not help as the underlying config problems are still there until you fix them.

I hope you look thru the thread and see where i'm coming from re the logfile stuff and don't allow kcnew's comments to prevent forward progress. If she was to find all the clues and sort you out, all well and good, i don't mind who does it. Hopefully this thread will be resolved at some point and you will be burning again, and i for one can concentrate on other posts.



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@dametony -
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i've been using those verbatim discs for two years. why would they suddenly stop working for me? that doesn't make any sense to me. back when i was having trouble with sonic, i couldn't burn anything, any media. once i got Nero running, my old media worked fine. but now Nero has ceased functioning, too.
- can you download dvdinfopro (free) and run a media info check and paste the results. Verbatim used to use questionable manufacturer's in the past (ie CMC); it would be nice to rule out the media, good or bad.

I did overlook something further up the post -
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why would i now need to make the disc size smaller in DVD Shrink when it's worked fine for me to leave it alone for something over 100 burns?
- well spotted. I had omitted a sentence when i wrote the part about target size. The missing sentence should have been "pls check the target limit is set to something like 4300MB, as just because this burn is 4182MB, having only one logfile to go on doesn't help us determine if you have ever changed this limit"
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what is "packet writing software"? you said it causes problems with Nero, but, as i've said multiple times, neither my:

1)sonic recordnow!
nor my
2)nero

will burn DVD's or do player-to-recorder exact copies of CD's. as i stated a few posts ago, i think just focusing on the Nero aspect is a mistake, as the only reason i have Nero at all is because i got it when my sonic recordnow! stopped burning DVD's.
- i'm only concentrating on Nero for now as that's all i've got to go on until you provide evidence that you've updated the things that have been suggested. Then we can dig deeper if necessary. It's always important to rule out the obvious or much hassle usually ensues. Packet writing software is evident in your logfile, so until you uninstall it, it will unfortunately flag as something that should be addressed. A process of elimination is essential to any troubleshooting.
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oh, and i forgot to mention: i can't seem to get either program to erase my DVD+RW's anymore. they won't even read them.
- again dvdinfopro comes in handy here, we can do a media info check and see the media details.

At the risk of stating the obvious, you have a DVD-rom drive that can be used to read/access/dvdinfopro media check, the discs, if the burner isn't playing ball. Unfortunately burning 100s of discs doesn't always guarantee ongoing success - see the first links in my signature as i have myself been affected by zero problems for 100s of burns, only to find problems lurking.

Hope that clears up those questions..




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9. June 2005 @ 06:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
CREAKY:

You're sweet. My deepest apologies for taking out on you my terrible horrible no-good day. I braided my daughter's hair and she said the part was wrong. I walked the dogs and was told they can pee on garbage cans but not on fenceposts. I drove the disabled to the VA and was told the seatbelts in my car were too tight. I did laundry in cold instead of warm and then dried the towels with the undies. I topped off my car's windshield washer fluid but was told I shouldn't have put it in the hole marked 'oil.'

Other than being an ass, I suffer from speed typing, so the tish hits the fan faster than my (incredibly small) brain can process it all.

And just to prove that I really am sorry and hope you will forget my nasty comments, continue serving the public, and have a very merry day, I ask that you consider this:
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Be thankful you're not related to me.



As a public admission of my stupidity, I solved my own problem (well, I discovered the problem, though the problem remains). After trying to play my new Memorex DVD's in the BR player and experiencing total failure, I tested them on a second DVD player, also unsuccessfully. At that point, I determined that I was burning, and would continue to burn, coasters. I then hit the forums wondering what was wrong, who I could yell at, and if it really did matter where the dogs peed. Having completely spent myself spitting at you, I hauled the stack of 'bad' DVD's, together with my crack pipe, down to the living room APEX, and spent the remainder of the evening watching my coaster of men beating one another senseless in the USC Nationals. That, and every other 'bad' DVD, played beautifully. See my question regarding the issue "Bad disc or bad player?" in a more appropriate thread (yours) - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/193298 - which (unfortunately, but can you tell I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer?) I didn't understand.
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@kcnew, no worries, all water under the bridge. Just glad i didn't inflame things further by replying (my last reply took literally an hour of editing/re-editing to make sure it didn't make things worse). It was a nice break from working though :)

I'm not sure there's anything left to answer in the other thread as arniebear seems to have it covered. But i'll see if there's anything i can add as i've got to add one of those funky graphs to that thread anyway. I don't know too much about all that graphy stuff yet, but enough to get by.

ps the way you detailed various things in your above replies suggest that there's no blunt knives in the drawer at all, you seemed to have a handle on it all. :)


@dametony, pls don't forget to address the points i'd highlighted in my last 2 replies to you, then we can get you sorted, or at least sorted enough to decide whether your burner is actually knackered.



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11. June 2005 @ 12:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
okay, i'm back. i was out of town for a couple of days.

first things first, kcnew: you are very funny. comedy writer funny. just wanted to say that. are you a writer?

second, to creaky:

here goes. lots to address.

1)you never tackled my last post, the one where i burned a disc just fine with no problems. i haven't tried another since, but why would some work, others get kicked out, and still others the computer claims are failures, yet they work perfectly in my dvd player? my question is, why is there randomness in the results?

2)i have to say it again: i really think focusing on Nero is a mistake, especially as i *only have* Nero because my sonic recordnow! failed me. the problem just can't be the software, it just can't. but if you insist, then so be it.

3)i am currently working from a 50-disc spindle of verbatim dvd+r's. i've probably burned 30 or so dvd's successfully from it. it's only the last 10 or so that have been a problem, really. i fail to see how the media could be the problem, especially when i've tried other media before, and they failed, too (this was before i got Nero, when sonic recordnow was shitting the bed). but, i can try a media checker thing.

4)you haven't mentioned my problem with both Nero and sonic recordnow! failing to burn player-to-burner copies of regular CD's. this is somehow tied to problems with the burner itself, right? and then there's that issue of me being able to burn CD's from things on my hard drive with both programs with no problems whatsoever. these things are all tied together. i never had any issues when i first got my computer. they all worked magnificently. gradually, over time, problems have arisen.

5)firmware: i tried updating when i was having my initial pre-Nero problems. i just tried again (and i did it, just to see), but the program told me that 10GE was the current edition, and that's what i already had installed.

6)okay, so tell me how to get rid of this "packet writing software" you speak of (i have no idea what this is). i uninstalled sonic DLA (whatever that was), though.

7)stand by for dvdinfopro readout.

...and thanks for your help!

(ps -- other people reading this, feel free to chip in with your expertise!)
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1)you never tackled my last post, the one where i burned a disc just fine with no problems. i haven't tried another since, but why would some work, others get kicked out, and still others the computer claims are failures, yet they work perfectly in my dvd player? my question is, why is there randomness in the results?
- if you'd read any posts in my signature or pretty much any of my posts, or did any reading up on dvd burning in general, you'll see that dvd burning is plagued by incorrect setups, bad media, etc etc.
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)i have to say it again: i really think focusing on Nero is a mistake, especially as i *only have* Nero because my sonic recordnow! failed me. the problem just can't be the software, it just can't. but if you insist, then so be it.
- no-one's focusing solely on Nero. Do you want help with your problem ?. I'll ask this one last time, but first read thru the entire thread and then answer. And concentrate on kcnew's replies. You have one little thread, ppl like me answer 20 or 30 or more of these a night, in our own free time. Most ppl are open to the advice they're given.
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3)i am currently working from a 50-disc spindle of verbatim dvd+r's. i've probably burned 30 or so dvd's successfully from it. it's only the last 10 or so that have been a problem, really. i fail to see how the media could be the problem, especially when i've tried other media before, and they failed, too (this was before i got Nero, when sonic recordnow was shitting the bed). but, i can try a media checker thing.
- pls take the time to lok at the threads in my signature. Feel free to dispute media & setup issues after that...
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4)you haven't mentioned my problem with both Nero and sonic recordnow! failing to burn player-to-burner copies of regular CD's. this is somehow tied to problems with the burner itself, right? and then there's that issue of me being able to burn CD's from things on my hard drive with both programs with no problems whatsoever. these things are all tied together. i never had any issues when i first got my computer. they all worked magnificently. gradually, over time, problems have arisen.
- forgive me for forgetting the nitty gritty details of your problem. I will have to start again and read this thread from the beginning as your problem is just one of many i go thru each night. Pls don't take this the wrong way but i just can't always remember all your info plus 20 other ppl's info after a 9hour day doing Tech Support for a living :)
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5)firmware: i tried updating when i was having my initial pre-Nero problems. i just tried again (and i did it, just to see), but the program told me that 10GE was the current edition, and that's what i already had installed.
- i will look thru the post from the beginning and remind myself of the details.
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6)okay, so tell me how to get rid of this "packet writing software" you speak of (i have no idea what this is). i uninstalled sonic DLA (whatever that was), though.
- you installed it - it's either Roxio, Nero' InCD etc etc... i'll try my best :)
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7)stand by for dvdinfopro readout.

...and thanks for your help!
- you're really quite welcome, pls just bear with us and open your mind to the fact that we can most likely help you. What i am not, is psychic so i rely on you giving me decent info too. :)
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(ps -- other people reading this, feel free to chip in with your expertise!)
- anyone of course is welcome to help. However this requires you yourself to want to be helped...and if you continue to debate things with me, other members are not going to want to come rushing to your aid if they sense a know-it-all in their midst....



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11. June 2005 @ 14:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
creaky, you are definitely an interesting character. you have to understand, you're the only person who seems to be currently posting advice in this thread, so you've got to see it from my point of view: how do i know what you're talking about? i don't know who you are or what you do on this board. i know next to nada about computers work. so it's a little hard for me to just trust one person, who has admittedly had problems keeping track of details, here and already gotten into a scuffle with someone else in this thread. it'd be nice to get a consensus from a few people, but this thread has maybe gotten too complicated for that. i should maybe start a new, simplified one with a new title.

i'm not sure where you get the idea i don't want to be helped...since i started this thread, i obviously do. i just have trouble doing what you suggest when it seems like you're making judgements based on a lack of information. you've already said that you've neglected to read certain parts of my posts, so forgive me if i'm a bit leery. don't take that the wrong way or get insulted, it's just that i have written things that have been overlooked by you -- and that's fine. i'd just feel more comfortable if i was sure that everything i was saying was being heard. you've readily admitted that you have "memory problems," so don't blame me if i'm a tad unsure of how to take you. :)

you just have to understand that i know nothing about any of this. so when you say something like...
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- if you'd read any posts in my signature or pretty much any of my posts, or did any reading up on dvd burning in general, you'll find it's still plagued by incorrect setups, bad media, etc etc.
i just go, well, first, i feel like he's being condescending. second, i don't know what he's talking about with "incorrect setups," because i haven't changed anything -- things just stopped working one day. and i also think, well, it can't be the media, because the current spindle has been working fine until recently. and, before, when i had my sonic recordnow! program stop burning DVD's, i was using the same brand, and once i switched to Nero, the brand worked fine again, from the same spindle. and, PLUS, the most recent burn i tried worked fine. so how can that be the media? why would the burner work some of the time? i ask because I HAVE NO IDEA, and i need to understand this stuff. you've got to realize that newbies like me don't have the reference points you do.

i've tried reading those threads you pointed out, but i have no clue what you think i should really glean from them. it's a bunch of charts and graphs and tech talk about different drives and media that tell me virtually nothing because i don't know what i'm looking at, you know?

the most i got is: don't use shitty media. well, reading those threads, it seems like Verbatim is pretty decent (you recommend them), and that's what i use! you're going on about using good media, and that's fine, but it doesn't address my problem -- my burner has (again) stopped burning DVD's (mostly), and it has stopped doing player-to-burner direct CD copies.

so, you see, it can't be the media, right? because i'm having a couple of different issues, and you say verbatim is good!

okay. so let's go step-by-step. one thing at a time. let's get on the same page.

first:

i just went to get dvdinfopro, and it looks like it needs to be paid for, or it comes with adware. does it? because i'd prefer not to deal with that stuff. i don't even know what it means, but it sounds bad. if it's not an issue, i'll download it and do whatever you say i should do with it.
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and already gotten into a scuffle with someone else in this thread. it'd be nice to get a consensus from a few people
- was it me who started scuffling, or was it me who sorted out the scuffle ?.
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you've got to realize that newbies like me don't have the reference points you do.
herein lieith the problem. I and others do have the experience. If fixing problems was so easy we'd all be in Tech support, don't you think

Look, this is not paid work. More importantly this is a public forum, in as much as anyone can do a google search or whatever and end up here. Are you berating me so much because your problem hasn't been fixed i wonder. I would personally take heed of the person's last reply (who scuffled with me). I, like most ppl here, are here just to help ppl like you, i get nothing out of it, especially when being berated by yourself for not yet fixing your solitary problem. I am more than happy to continue helping (or beginning to help you). All i ask in return is that you drop the attitude & stop worrying about how i am/whether i am up to fixing your problem. Feel free to browse my other posts, you will find that i sometimes concede defeat, whether thru complete midlife-crisis or due to the fact that i just can't fix everything.

Now i will go thru this entire post and see if i can remember what your problem is (pls remember this is my free time you are [still] criticising here)...



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11. June 2005 @ 15:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey, listen: i don't know where you get the idea that i'm "berating" you, but you need to realize that that's not the case at all. i don't feel like getting into details about who started what where, but just please try and read closely what i've already written. i don't know what else there is for me to say. i've got no "attitude," as you claim. it's just that you have already shown that you have skimmed over some things and missed some important details and then had them pointed out to you. so, yes, please reread the thread. that will be helpful. it's all in there, stated many times.

i absolutely appreciate your help, but if it's too much for you to handle, just say so, and i can start a new thread. it's no problem, really.
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you don't need to know or trust me. This is a public forum where pretty much anyone can contribute. You are welcome to ignore me, or ask others for advice. I really don't mind. Honestly. Period. What i do find unnecessary is you continue to analyse me/critique me instead of simply providing what i've asked you for.

Pls post your latest Nero log to verify previous suggestions have been followed, therefore we can begin to move forward progress. Pls try to remember this is your problem and i have nothing to gain from helping or hindering you. I really am quite happy to be proved wrong if i either don't help or help incorrectly. If i hel you correctly i can simply concentrate on the other ppl who do want or appreciate my feedback. Again anyone can happily berate me, provided they have good cause.

- can you download dvdinfopro and run a media info check and paste the results. Verbatim used to use questionable manufacturer's in the past (ie CMC); it would be nice to rule out the media, good or bad.. For instance are you using datalifeplus or datalife.


I am not a condescending person (my 'scuffle' should be proof of that), i do Tech Support for a living, i post on here in my free time, looking good or bad on afterdawn buys or loses me nothing.
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okay. so let's go step-by-step. one thing at a time. let's get on the same page.
i could say that's condescending but i won't. Continue to challenge me or my poor memory and feel free to sue me. Otherwise pls help me (and others) to help you



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11. June 2005 @ 15:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You might want to check that your dvd burner doesn't have a limit put on it for the number of DVD's it will write bfroe quiting. Some manufacturers i heard put limits as to how many you can burn before it will need to be reset, the counter to zero. I had bought a cd burner and was told buy the dealer about the limit and i changed the brand right away. It certainly doesn't sound like a software problem. LG makes a good DVD burner, i have two of them and they also burn the double layer discs.

A good copy program is CloneDVD it works great and easy to use.
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okay, creaky: already, you've overlooked something, man:

i said: "i just went to get dvdinfopro, and it looks like it needs to be paid for, or it comes with adware. does it? because i'd prefer not to deal with that stuff. i don't even know what it means, but it sounds bad. if it's not an issue, i'll download it and do whatever you say i should do with it."

you didn't answer my question about the potential adware. you just told me to run the program again. i'd be glad to run the program if it's safe, but are you asking me to download a program that's got adware in it? i was under the assumption that that stuff is bad for your computer.

also, can you answer my question about why you think it could be the media, if i (as i've explained) made it through 30-odd discs in the spindle so far (and 2 or 3 other spindles) without any problems? i just fail to see how this could logically make any sense.
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i absolutely appreciate your help
Not from what I've read........
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but if it's too much for you to handle
If you're such hot stuff why are you the one asking questions? You're here getting free help so if you want to snap your fingers at someone or get hostile do it to paid tech support not us.
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and i can start a new thread. it's no problem, really
Yes it is a problem. It's called multiposting, it's against forum rules and it'll make me even more upset than I am now.



Creaky's a respected and very helpful member of a community so if you can't appreciate him using his limited free time to try and help you then you need to unplug, sit in the corner and rethink your childish sense of entitlement. This is your first warning to lighten up and show some respect for those trying to help you.



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Uh oh, got the Neph involved.

You can download dvdinfopro (the free version) without any worries or you can use this http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/ (free also).

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11. June 2005 @ 15:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
mort81, thank you for the help with my question.
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okay, downloaded dvdinfopro, and immediately a popup ad appeared when i ran the program -- i assume that this will just pop up when i use the program? i hope so!

now, was i supposed to put in a blank DVD? that's what i did, and it's giving me a "cannot read MID on blank media" warning. i don't know what that means. but i click "ok" and then i get this:

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Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Manufacturer ID cannot be read

Format Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type Unknown
Media Type DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area end sector 23053Fh
Linear Density Blank Disc
Track Density Unknown
Number of Layers 1

Complete Media Code
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cheers Mort81, i am gonna step back as this is just not working. My knowledge has been brought into question on this thread numerous times (no problem with that), but i'm not gonna fight twice in the same thread.



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oh, for crying out loud. no one EVER brought your knowledge into question, just the fact that you keep overlooking things that people type. and i wasn't even the person that mentioned it first. but, look, i don't care to argue about it. so leave if you want.

whatever. if anyone else has any ideas, please drop in.
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I fully undrstand creaky, I don't want to get very involved myself. Seems like everything we/you recommend has something wrong about it.

If you don't want a pop up (sorry assumed you have a pop up blocker as most do. It won't happen unless you open dvdinfopro)

Insert a blank dvd in your dvdrw, give it time to recognize the media, then open the other proggy (dvd identifier) click on identify. Tell us the manufacturer name and ID.

I have both these proggy's and use them on a regular basis.

BTW I would be careful as you're walking on thin ice.

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@dametony. i, mort81, and many other regulars bounce threads/ideas off each other on a daily basis. That comment was meant for him. I'm retiring for the night as it's 130am here, but feel free to spend the night slagging me off and i'll look by tomorrow morning, unless of course you haven't got yourself banned for keeping it up.



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