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torrix
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8. September 2005 @ 15:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh cool.. I converted it into MPEG now can i burn and play on the DVD?
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8. September 2005 @ 17:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cool, glad it all worked out for you !!



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8. September 2005 @ 18:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The mpeg should work on your DVD player, if it is a DVD compliant mpeg. I have never burned an mpeg to DVD, so I cannot tell you for sure. I always convert to either .VOB or the demuxed .m2v & .wav so I can re-author.

If the mpegs don't work on your DVD player, do not worry. Mpegs are very versatile, unlike rmvb files, so you can use TMPGEnc or some other encoder to get your DVD compliant files.
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10. September 2005 @ 04:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
question, i have two movies that i want to put on one dvd. i have the VIDEO_TS folders for each, how can i combine both of those folders into one folder than i can burn to a DVD? each movie by the way is 2.3 GB so it will fit onto 1 DVD.
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10. September 2005 @ 05:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Gear79

try Nero and make those files you have into a 'data' dvd (using nero) providing your dvd player can support that, i have put up to 11 full length movies on one dvd alone, by data with Nero.

Gear how is this done please

Many Thanx

Ericwh

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@ericwh i am at work now. i will do it for you later tonight when i get home.
but i do believe that you need the full version of Nero (and latest updates). but what dvd player do you have? what version of Nero? what burner do you have?
i took my dvd player back, my old LGDVB418 (which played data format) and traded it for the LDA 511 (paid $179.99 for it at best buy) and this one is identical with a few slight differences.



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ericwh
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10. September 2005 @ 06:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Gear

Many Thanx no problem

I have latest Full version of Nero that is out 6.6.0.16 i believe.

My writer is a Asus DRW-042P/D Firmware version 1.07 is the latest as far as i know, although i read someware it is basically a Pioneer 106 OEM version

As Im in the UK my dvd player is an ALBA but it does play anything i throw at it.

Much Appreciated

Eric

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@ericwh
ok, here goes, hope it works for you. open up Nero start smart, when the application opens, select dvd at the top, then select 'data', in the drop down, select 'make a data dvd', providing you have the files saved to your hdd, in the tabs column, select 'add files' (on the right side) and in that menu, once opened, it will show you what you have available, if not, just find where your files are, double click then or click and drag, either or, and add as many as you like, (set your dvd to a DVD5 or dvd9), then once done, click the burn tab, i burn ,mine at the fastest speed, because i have not seen a difference in slow or fast burns on data disks. i can burn 5 full length movies in under 5 minutes, but that depends on your processor speeds and other configurations of your puter. i dont multitask while it is burning either and i DO use a quality disk like verbatim or fuji.
hope this works for you, providing your dvd player will read the disk. let me know how it goes for you...



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ericwh
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11. September 2005 @ 03:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanx Gear,

Will give it a go and let u know how it turns out

Had a quick fiddle before i go to work, Question when u click on Make a data dvd Nero Express opens and then u select Add to add yr files on hard disk. What size were the files that u added ? mine a near enough 4.3 gig for one file.


Many Thanx

Ericwh

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weezl2011
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i have an .AVI file thats 699.1 MB...is there anyway to fit it on a regular 4.7GB dvd disk without haeving extremely low video quality? i downloaded the file from a P2P program, so i only have th eone downloaded file, is there any wya to do this>>>>?????
mvick2111
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11. September 2005 @ 10:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i posted this before but havent gotten an answer yet. its really important and the sooner someone could help me, the better. i have two movies that i want to put on one dvd. i have the VIDEO_TS folders for each, how can i combine both of those folders into one folder than i can burn to a DVD? each movie by the way is 2.3 GB so it will fit onto 1 DVD.
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11. September 2005 @ 13:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I do not know how to take 2 whole DVDs and put them into 1 disc, but if you want both in 1 disc and you create your own menus, it is not too hard.

First, you will need a good authoring program like DVDlabpro. You should download the 30 day trial. It is fully featured, so you can actually make your DVD. I personally like Demuxing my .VOB files. It is easier for me, but I think DVDlabpro can handle .VOB.

After you launch DVDlabpro, a default project screen will pop up. What you want is "Advanced". Select it and click OK.

When the next screen pops up, right click on VTS1 in the project menu and select "Add new VTS" You will now have VTS1 and VTS2.

Rename "movie1" (located in VTS1) into the title of the first movie or something that will make you know that it is the title of the first movie.

Rename "movie2" (located in VTS2) into the title of the second movie or something that will make you remember it.

Examples: Doing Resident Evil: Apocalypse and Get Shorty. Rename movie1 to RE and movie2 to GS. This way you will be working easier and faster.

Now go to the "Menus" folder of VTS1 and right click and select "Add new menu". Ho to VTS2 Menus folder and add 2 menus. You will have a total of 4 menus.

Now double Click on "VMG Menu 1" located in the VGM section. A blank menu creation screen will pop up. Take note of the dotted line squared. Everything important must stay within the innermost square.

On the bottom of your screen will be a White screen with "assets" on the left panel. This is your asset manager. Click on the "background" tab and add a background using drag and drop. I like adding a blue colored background here because text displays better. Now that you have added your background, click on the "Aa" button on the left of the menu. This will add text. Now select a font you like and set the size to 70 or so. For text type in "Select Movie" and click ok. Now place the created text box somewhere in the upperthird of the menu screen (within the innermost square).

Now click on the "object" tab. Select "buttons" and then drag and drop a button. I like the Fourth one. Resize it so the the box around the button is about 126 high x 166 wide. Use the scale on the left and top of the menu as a guide. After resizing look to the right and make sure you are in the "Color" Tab. In this tab look towards the bottom and under effects, change it to "water drop". Now press ctrl+C and then ctrl+v to copy and paste your button. It will paste directly on top of the button, but automatically select, so just drag it away and you now have two buttons.

Now select the "Aa" button again and click it somewhere inside one of your buttons. And type in Resident {press "enter"} then type Evil. Select "Center" so your text will be centered and select a size of about 35. Now click OK. Put the text so the it is at about the center of the button. Do the same for the second button, but replace "Resident" and "Evil" with "Get" and "Shorty". This is of course only an example. You would use your own titles.

Now click on you first button (not the text) and on the right click on the "Links" tab (it is the third from the top). You will see "Button Link" and "NOP". Click on this and Select "VTS1 Root (MenuX)". Do the same for second button, but point it to "VTS2 Root (MenuX)". The (MenuX) will change if you rename the menus.

This whole preccess should take about 5 minutes or so.

Now for the actual movie authoring. Remember, I only use Demuxed files (.m2v & .ac3), so what I write will differ slightly then what you will actually do.

First things here, you have to figure out exactly what you want. Do you want to select scenes or are you doing episodes. Do you want special features (sub titles, different audio streams, etc...). Basically, you will want 2 main menus for each movie and depending on what you do, a chapter select, & special features menu. Why two main menus? This is because if you press the "menu" button on the remote, you will want a menu with the resume command.

Create a new menu for each that you will need (make extra menus to point to the Second main menu with the "Resume" Command)

After creating your blank menus, you will forget about acutally making them until later on. You will now have to add all of your media.

Go to the "Video & Audio" tab in asset manager and right click. Import all the files that you need for your first movie. (I cannot help you in recreating the original menu of a DVD, so unless if you know how, or someone will guide you, only select the files that have to do with the main movie and Extras that you want). Now you have to see how many movie files you have and create a new movie in the VTS1 Movie section for each. For the main movie rename them to whatever you rrenamed movie1, but add numbers at the end. For extras rename them ex1, ex2, etc... Now double click the first movie from your project window under the VTS1 section. Now drag and drop your first movie. Do the same for the rest until you are done.

If your movies already have chapters, you will have to extract them from the original .VOB and then import them into DVDlabpro. I always create my own chapters. When you import a movie, there will be a bunch of thumbnails. All the way to the left of the first thumbnail, there is a line (will will not be able to see it), click on it and you can drag it acrros the thumbnails and add chapter points. To add a chapter point, there will be a preview screen at the bottom right of your screen. You can navigate the preview with a slow play, fast play, or by using the laft and right arrows on your keyboard. Then you press the small "+" button above the preview screen where you want your chapter point.

Repeat this for VTS2.

Now, Double click the first menu in VTS1. Another black screen like the VMG menu. Here you will create your menu for the first movie. You can either use a backgournd from assets, or an image that you import as a background. After you get your background, add youtitle text, like; "Resident Evil: Apocalypse". Now create another text and type in "play" or "begin movie" or whatever you want. You could also use objects that are included in the asset bin under the "Objects" Tab. On the "links" tab point it to the first movie.

If you have a chapter select button, create text for that and point it to your first chapter select menu. Do the same if you have a special features menu.

For chapter select, you can make a selection by chapter points, or at the beginning of movies. When I do episode DVDs, I make 1 for each episode. You will also want a button that points to the first main menu you created.

Now make a duplicate of each menu. On the main menu instead of "Play", make "Resume". In the links tab, select "resume movie". For chapter selection button, point it to your second chapter selection and for special features button point it to the second special features menu.

Now go to each of the other menus and point the main menu button to your second main menu. This way you will have the "Resume" command even if you navigate away from the Main menu.

Reapeat this for VTS2

Now you are almost finished. In the project window, the left of your screen, double click connectionns. You will see thumbnails of all of your movies and menus and where they point. Go to each main movie, and make sure that its "end link" is to the next movie to be played. This means if you have 3 vobs in your VTS1 movie, make sure after the first VOB finishes, it goes to the next VOB instead of the menu. Also, set the "menu button (on remote)" to point to the second menu you created (the Resume menu). Do the same for everything in VTS2. For the last movie in each VTS, you can set it to go to the Root menu, or chapter select.

I can't think of anything that I am leaving out, so this should be all. The entire process should not take too long. It depends on how long it takes for you to create your menus. Double check all of your menus and connections to make sure everything is ok. Now you will have to go to "Project=>compile DVD...". It will tell you if anything is wrong. If there is, correct it and then try to compile again. Comiling depends on your PC, but it is not too long. I would estimate about 30 minutes.

After it compiles, you may want to defragment you hard drive. Then you can run your movie through DVD Shrink or something to see if everything is ok. Then burn your DVD with your favorite burning program (DVDlabpro can do this too). If you are afraid you did something wrong, burn to a DVDRW and check everything. Then burn to a DVDR.
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11. September 2005 @ 13:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
weezl2011,

This depends totally on the quality of your .AVI file. If it is 2 hours of video in 700 MB, then the quality will not be great, but it will be viewable.

To get the most out of your .AVI, you will have to get a good encoder. I like TMPGEnc. You can also use avi2dvd with CCE or the included encoders.

Second, you have to use little space for your audio. I encode my audio to 5.1 Dolby which is about 1/3 the size of a .wav file. MP2 will be the smallest, but I do not know if this is compatible with all DVD players.

When you encode, set your encoder to do 2 pass Variable bitrate encoding. Also if you use TMPGEnc, do the Slow Motion search (slowest may take too long even for fast PCs). If you want multiple files, use the source range option.

TMPGEnc gives you an estimate of the file's size after encoding. Set your bitrate according to this. You may actually be able to go quite a bit over the 4.7 gig size if you encode your audio to something smaller that .wav. Depending on the size of your movie you should be fine with around 5000kbs video.
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11. September 2005 @ 16:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ericwh
the files i have made, using data format (are indeed full length movies, that mysteriously ended up on my pc by some weird download ;) and someone doing it) but the average size is around 500 to 600mb. some smaller, some larger, but i can fit a bunch of them files to 1 single layer dvd. i even did like 32 or so episodes of some cartoons on one disc.

@weezl2011
my picture quality seems rather well for what i am doing and considering where i get them from too, plus, i have a High Def upconversion dvd player with a HiDef tv too, so my pictures on that set up look pretty damn good, versus to my older analog tv with a junkie old dvd player. and yes, the file you downloaded from a P2P program, very easy to convert and transfer to disk. most all, in fact, i am pretty sure, all d/l files are .AVI format. you can use Nero to do this for you. the fast easy way (i use data) but your dvd player may not recognize a data disk, but you can use Nero vision express, which is the next easiest, you will have to convert the file, and it will take some time, also depends on you puter speed/specs................
but keep in mind your creation will be only as good as your source (meaning, whoever uploaded that file, if it was crappy, you will get a crappy result)

jaguargod knows his stuff........ but after reading what he has posted to help you guys out, i can see where it may confuse you (terminology and programs, and basics)


@mvick2111
i need to know what kinds of burning programs you have to help you out a bit more. but i do know that Nero will also do your task that you need, putting two files to one disk

@jaguargod
you dont want to overburn a disk, (providing you are using quality blank media and taking to the limits of 4.7gigs, which by the way a blank dvd may say it has 4.7gigs worth of free space, but thats not true, its more around 4.3gigs. i dont use overburning, and i set all my burns to around 4330mb and burn at speeds lower then 4x, but i am using quality media too.

i hope this has shed a bit more light for you guys, any questions, just ask, i will help where i can.



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11. September 2005 @ 21:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I did not mean to overburn. I always put 4400MB or less on a disc. This leaves about 60MB or so free. I meant that if you encode a clip with .wav sound you will get about 12MB per minute. A full movie will yield about 1GB of Audio!!!

Encoding programs compensate for Audio size. So if it says you are filling 100% of a disc, about 75% will be video (6000kb/s) and the rest audio. However, if you change the audio to 3MB per minute, you can actually fit more video and audio on a disc.

Ex: at 5100kb/s bitrate and .wav audio, you can fit 90 minutes of movie on 4300MB of a disc. This leave about 150MB free following gear79's suggestion. However, by changing the audio to Dolby AC3 at 484kb/s you can fit about 105 minutes of movie.

When doing lower quality video, the number increases more. Say you want about 2500kb/s video quality. You can fit 150 minutes of movie or about 7 episodes on a disc. If you use .AC3, it jumps to 200 minutes or 9 episodes (a 33% difference).

So, if you encode a movie, and the file size is 4.37GB or 100% of a dvdr, remember that a lot of it is actually audio (.wav is at 1536 kb/s). This meands you can encode a few extra minutes of movie to compensate for the audio if you plan on re-encoding your audio to a smaller bitrate, (or use a larger video bitrate).

I would like to thank Gear79 for pointing out that my post was confusing. It is harder to write how to do something than to actually do it, not to mention I average about 3 hours of sleep a day, so my brain is always fried. Also, 4330 MB you use is an excellent amount of the disc to fill. You are using most of the capacity, but not so much that quality of burn suffers.
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11. September 2005 @ 21:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i totally agree with you JaguarGod, but some of the newbies dont understand our lingo, nothing personal against you or your wealth of knowledge. together, i think we can help out the noobs. i understood what you posted, but from my newbie days, i would have been cornfused big time.
see ya around buddy !



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ericwh
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Thanx Gear

I see where your coming from now lol

So The Only Way is to use shrink to reduce size of normal dvd movie i have done that before with the Die Hard trilogy actually quality is not bad ,also i have the original Walt Disney Titan Collection set 36 movies on 12 Disks, i have managed to put 4 sometimes 5 on 1 disk by taking out the menus and extras file size still the same around 900mb.

Many Thanx

Ericwh

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yup..........
the golden rule applies here. "for everything that you gain, you will sacrafice something"
that rule pretty much applies to everything i can think of, in one way or another.
but glad you age getting the hang of things.



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