** Viper GC Extreme **
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Venom5880
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31. December 2005 @ 22:53 |
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If it can read back-ups, it'll be more than capable of reading originals.
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boki2002
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1. January 2006 @ 03:11 |
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your original games will still work. I can imagine chainging it for every game lol
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Brewgod23
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1. January 2006 @ 14:47 |
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Is that the reason that some mini DVDs don't work? All that is needed is to adjust the pot and all mini DVDs will work no matter what brand you buy?
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igounfaze
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1. January 2006 @ 16:26 |
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I don't know much about this scene, as I am just entering it. But I have spent the last two days reading anything that I can find on this.
If I understand correctly: adjusting the pot will make it more reliable when reading other discs. But it is NOT the only thing that has to be considered.
My burner type, speed burned, program used to burn, good dvd-r/+r's (regular or mini), and a good iso backup of the original are also needed.
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Venom5880
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1. January 2006 @ 20:21 |
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^^^
Exactly. Some brands aren't even worth using (low quality dyes and low success rate for burns), so no matter what your pot is adjusted to not all media is going to work well if at all.
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Brewgod23
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3. January 2006 @ 08:44 |
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I was thinking. If I adjust the pot down to a lower value (~250ohms), that would cause the laser to draw more current. Wouldn't this cause my laser to burnout or the laser life expectancy be less?
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igounfaze
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3. January 2006 @ 09:43 |
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The laser would be a bit stronger. As more voltage is going to it. But I am not of the opinion that it will decrease the life expectancy.
Solid state isn't a 1:1 ratio kind of thing. Meaning: if the actual setting was 500 for X years, then it would be 250 for X 1/2 years. They don't work like that.
Below is a quote from one of my text books on electronics. I have to go now and pick someone up, but anyone feel free to correct me if needed.
Quote: The word LASER is an acronym for light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation. The
laser is widely used in industry, and experimental work is being done with it in communications. You will
find a laser is similar to uhf and microwave power sources and could replace either of them in point-topoint
communications.
THEORY OF OPERATION
Lasers take energy at (or near) the visible light spectrum and convert it to a very narrow and intense
beam in the same region. A close relative of the laser is the light emitting diode (LED). The LED takes dc
or low frequency ac power and converts the energy into visible light.
The principle of the laser is somewhat similar to that of a very high-Q cavity resonator. Chapter 1 of
NEETS, Module 11, Microwave Principles, explains cavity resonators. The laser is shock-excited by a
spark transmitter. This transmitter is called a spark transmitter because it uses the discharge of a capacitor
through an inductor and a spark gap as a source of rf. While the input energy of the laser covers a wide
band of frequencies, the output is on one frequency. Energy outputs of the laser are either INCOHERENT
or COHERENT. For example, if you turn on a transmitter with no modulation, you will get coherent
radiation. When you connect a noise source to an antenna, the result is incoherent radiation.
Lasers can be either cw or pulsed. Actually, lasers are little different from conventional oscillators.
However, the way lasers convert energy from one form to another is quite different. In conventional
oscillators, dc power from the collector is converted to rf energy. The frequency is for the most part
independent of the molecular or atomic structure of the generator. This is not true for the laser. Laser
conversion takes place directly within the molecular structure of a crystal or gas. The external circuits
have little effect on actual output frequency. The fact that the light from an LED is always the same color
results from similar conditions. In a laser, incoherent light excites the electrons in the atoms to higher
energy levels than they normally would have. The new energy states are unstable and the electrons drop
down to lower energy levels. Energy is then released in the form of light.
Figure 5-18 shows the ends of the crystal or glass tube laser with light waves reflecting back and
forth between two mirrored surfaces. One mirror is only partially reflective, and light energy is
transmitted through it to form the light beam. You will find that power sources for lasers include flash
tubes or, in the case of diode-type lasers, dc power supplies.
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Brewgod23
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3. January 2006 @ 10:57 |
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This explains the theory behind lasers but does touch on laser life expectancy by increasing or decreasing the laser current i.e. laser power. Increasing the surrent will increase the laser power causing the laser light source to heat up. This increase in heat will reduce the life of the laser. Are there other opinions out there?
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Venom5880
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3. January 2006 @ 11:05 |
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Many guides suggest that you adjust it to around 200 ohms. Considering most of these guides are pretty old now, I think it's safe to say you won't have to worry about your GC's laser crapping out anytime soon since the amount of people saying their GC won't play games anymore seems to be a pretty isolated occurance.
I had to replace the laser in mine since it stopped playing back-ups but still played originals flawlessly. Keep in mind, that this was a refurbished GameCube that has had already been through a couple thousand hours of gameplay. So I'd say unless you play a lot, you'd have nothing to worry about.
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evlspcmk
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3. January 2006 @ 22:02 |
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talking about life expectancy on lasers after pot mod, i dont beleive it will make it shorter, it may be a bit off topic but when i was modding my green laser pointer by tweaking the pot evry one said it wont shorten the life so it should be the same principal here
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Venom5880
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4. January 2006 @ 13:10 |
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Green laser pointer? Is it one of those crazy ones that looks like an extremely long light saber in the dark?
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evlspcmk
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4. January 2006 @ 17:36 |
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it shure is ;D its good for anoying people on the other side of town as it can go 10km
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Venom5880
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4. January 2006 @ 23:31 |
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O_O
That's some insane distance.
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boki2002
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5. January 2006 @ 08:50 |
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Sorry about images people. The links now lead to a suspended website. Seems someone has not been paying all bills or a dramatic error has gone wrong somewhere! :(
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stuffheh
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16. January 2006 @ 17:41 |
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I'm really glad I found this thread, answered quite a few questions about the incredibly small GC modding scene..
So it looks like Qoob pro, and the Viper GC extreme are the two top contenders for GC modding, and I myself would love to get in on a piece of this action ;)
SO, I'm already sure you have guessed my question. What would be the best chip for somebody who is going to use it to play almost completely gamecube backups. (from my own games of course! Is there any other way? ;)) I don't need a media center, snes/mame/whatever support. I would really just like to be able to play minidvd backups.
The lowest price for the Viper Extreme that I could find was 65 on console source. I've found the Qoob pro for about 45. What is the better bargain? And, could you guys post where you purchased your modchip, how good was the service, everything go smooth, etc.
//edit
Decided to read some of the stuff on the front page, and found that interesting thread on the problems saving configs with the Viper Extreme..and then a few praising the Qoob pro.
So, I'm leaning towards the Qoob right now, mainly from price and some positive postings. Please let me hear all of your thoughts.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 16. January 2006 @ 17:55
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stuffheh
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17. January 2006 @ 19:48 |
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Anybody? :(
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Brewgod23
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18. January 2006 @ 13:42 |
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I understand that the Viper-Extreme uses the USB adapter to load the BIOS, but how does it stream the game .ISO to the computer without a BBA?
On thier add is states "- The only solution that allows you to make backups without additional hardware".
Is it once you loaded the BIOS and start the GC a window with the option to backup the game will come up and the Viper-Extreme will stream the game .ISO to your computer hard-drive? I am trying to understand the hardware setup between the GC/Viper-Extreme/computer.
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stuffheh
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18. January 2006 @ 15:25 |
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Well..since nobody really responded..I suppose I will post the info I have found
I'm taking the xenoGC route. It has been getting good reviews, simple to install, and the price is unbeatable.
Check out xenogc if you're in the market for a 15 dollar mod chip
(eurasia price)
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Brewgod23
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19. January 2006 @ 15:46 |
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How does xenoGC interface with the PC? How do you load the BIOS and how do you stream the .ISO to the PC? Do you need a BBA? If you do you are not saving much.
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Brewgod23
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19. January 2006 @ 15:50 |
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Can anybody help me understand my question above (see January 18th)
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igounfaze
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19. January 2006 @ 18:19 |
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Well, I am not sure, as I am still waiting for my Viper Extreme chip. Has anyone else ordered from counsolesource and received their stuff? I am still waiting.
Brew dude, I would definitely let you know if I knew. But my opinion is that it is all done via the USB. Why would you need a BBA for, if you can connect to your computer via USB?? Software is what allows the connection in either of the two cases. Meaning: software translates the data going through the conections. So I would just think that from the viper usb, via the usb cable, to your pc usb port. Run proggy and wha-la! "files done".
But that is my opinion.
Stuffheh: I would go with the Viper EX chip. Why? because of what it says it can do. Just like brew says: you aint saving no money if you have to get all of that other stuff!
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2pac1987
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20. January 2006 @ 00:45 |
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hey guys i'm going to buy this Chip for my gamecube now i read ont he site that it says The only solution that allows you to make backups without additional hardware does this mean i dont need to buy a BBA or anything else so i only need Gamecube system + Chip to back up?
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Brewgod23
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20. January 2006 @ 06:00 |
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That is the same question I asked. Does somebody know that answer?
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nsx88
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20. January 2006 @ 07:53 |
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yes, that's what the viper extreme claims.
but as of yet, there is no bios that is capable of allocating that function of linking the ngc's communication port with the computer through the modchip.
we have to wait to see how things go, the newer bios of cobra should be just around the corner and every is waiting patiently.
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Brewgod23
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20. January 2006 @ 14:27 |
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So for now I do need the BBA to stream the .ISO file to my PC when using the Viper-Extreme USB?
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