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The whole point of the safety valve...
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12. January 2006 @ 03:27 |
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@mackdl
lmao!! I wish I had time to write...your comment about "Lord of the Flies" couldn't be more appropriate! Sounds like we could have some fun with this and create our own game! We'll choose the alpha male of each group (no wait, one doesn't "choose" an alpha male, I think we need to butt heads or something of the sort), anyway, we could create our own little wars. AD's anarchists vs. the establishment. Sounds fun.
@Jamzbond
I promise to PM you soon; things have been rather nuts for me the last couple of days. Your PM to read and participate in this thread, along with the whole first half of the posts might force me into a discussion on relativism. This would be disasterous as the anarchists and the establishment would join forces and pound on me, they'd all make nice and I would have been singularly responsible for the end of this thread. Where would we be then?
P.S. I just had another though; aren't our anarchists here just rebellious little youngsters? I think maybe this would be better solved with a good old fashioned spanking. (Now Jamz, I know you didn't invite me here to hear that sort of talk, yet, one must temper the intellect with amusement now and again lest we become humorless kurmudgeons [is "humorless kurmudgeon" an oxymoron? ah, a discussion for another occasion]).
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12. January 2006 @ 05:20 |
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i've seen about 15 threads get closed recently. they're either closed because the topic has been discussed before or it's unsuitable. The what are you currently listening to thread is the best.
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12. January 2006 @ 06:27 |
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I haven't seen much of Neph recently but Darth, Creaky, Ddp, etc are doing a fine job. This thread is still open.....and yet they said you guys were trigger happy. How audacious!. Le'me guess why though, hmmmm...... ran outa bullets?. lol
@Gerry
True to form you show up and get straight to the point. I agree, but the problem is that there's a 'B'-button on corporal punishment so we'll have to brainstorm an/some equally effective alternative/s. No worries about the PM. All in good time.
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12. January 2006 @ 06:38 |
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Ahhh, I understand; won't mention it again, I meant to be comical, not kinky! Forgive the slip all. Will get back as soon as I can Jamz!
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12. January 2006 @ 06:52 |
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I just don't like people posting pointless crap!
but isnt this the point of the safety value!!!!!!if they post it here hopefully we have all the mindless crap in one easy to manage area.
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12. January 2006 @ 07:17 |
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if they post it here hopefully we have all the mindless crap in one easy to manage area
- if only it were so. due to the offensive reports i have the (dis)pleasure of attending the console forums. if i didn't have kids already i'd have gone off kids altogether. compared to a lot of those forums the safety valve is a decent forum!.
ddp and me have even renamed one of the thread titles to -
"RUGBY LEAGUE 2 (**PS2 only**) - BACKUP PROBLEMS - NO EMAILS or flouting other Forum Rules", the title has been changed about 5 times to include further disclaimers. But the idiots still don't understand/read stuff. The title was originally "RUGBY LEAGUE 2" or something. Bloody ridiculous. i dunno how Lethal_B et all stay in forums like that, but then i guess some decent ppl have to otherwise it'd be utter chaos!. if i had my way i'd rename entire forums to "Gardener's Weekly" or something
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12. January 2006 @ 07:29 |
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if i had my way i'd rename entire forums to "Gardener's Weekly" or something
LMAO!!
Here's my fave flamer http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/206402
@andy: naw, maybe I worded it wrong. I mean threads like this, and other threads like "How did JFK die". That's what I mean by pointless crap. ;)
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12. January 2006 @ 07:33 |
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look out ddp and creaky are ready..to take on all members..
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12. January 2006 @ 07:37 |
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well after attempting to prolong it a bit , hasnt it been prolonged enough, the original poster left the party and hasnt come back .Isnt time we put this sucker to sleep or out of our misery.Hold on hey ireland can you use your weapons on this thread and put it out of our misery permanently
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12. January 2006 @ 08:02 |
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Yeah....but ummmh....Ddp hasn't spoken yet so maybe we could wait a weeeee bit longer. Hey Ddp get your *ahem*...."comments" over here. Ammmh...please!.
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12. January 2006 @ 08:12 |
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i've been in no rush to close it as it's always good to air stuff like this once in a while, plus i wouldn't want ppl thinking i take pleasure in closing threads :O
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12. January 2006 @ 08:13 |
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you can only hold the door open so long, not my fault ddp is snoozing some where and not paying attention..........come on ol'boy
give us one of your famous one liners thats appropriate for a thread like this...................lol
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12. January 2006 @ 10:55 |
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Well I guess I'll add my comments. One of the reasons I don't post much on here anymore is because of threads like this. They pop up everywhere and we all know why they are started. Everyone wants to pad their post count. Thats the only reason for useless threads along with the 1 word answers and replys like I AGREE, YEA, HE'S RIGHT. I have no problem with the mods closing these type threads. I see the same situation on several other forums I belong to where statis is regulated by post count. I guess it can't be helped but don't come down on the mods for doing their job. Most forums are set up to help members with problems not to become CHAT ROOMS.
Sorry if this rubs some members the wrong way but being a member here over 2 years makes me worry about the direction the main forums are going. If you want to boost your post count, try helping someone that has a problem.
Jerry
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12. January 2006 @ 11:21 |
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Guess i might as well stick up for the thread! As i agree with it.
Good comments made by DVDBack23 said "2. Things that arent really "kid-friendly", ie. smoking weed, killing people, etc."
Various people including mods have views on cannabis and smoking weed.
Darthnip "The main thing is, and this one's the real clincher, it's OUR site. that also means OUR rules, which wear put into place by the owners of the place and are enforced by us mods." Are there any hand gestures to go with comment. lol
Also said about this being a tech forum, lots of threads nothing to do with tech, such as the "thank you" thread, "i need help with french", and "what ur favourite sport"
I did enjoy Lethal B's stark "what gives you the right to publicly question a moderating decision??"
As a member of the forums (unless i get booted) i looked up the word member in the dictionary and amongst other defenitions was "One that belongs to a group or an organization: a club member;"
What sought of groups or organizations do not let members question descisions made by its leaders?
I will leave you to draw your own conclusions.
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12. January 2006 @ 11:25 |
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anarchy anarchy!!
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12. January 2006 @ 11:28 |
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Not anarchy! Its called a debate or difference of opinion.
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12. January 2006 @ 11:34 |
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a simple way to do this is to see if drd can block the post count add if posted in this Safety valve board
note:the post count has never ment beans to me,from day one.
i ask drd years ago to get rid of newbie and use member instead..he said no..
we use to have a 3-day waiting peried,i asked though mr moore if it could be removed,drd then removed the 3-day wait to post..
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If people want to make loads of pointless posts then i asy let them, i see senior members make dumb posts sometimes, just cos they have a high post count.. dont mean they posted lots of help..
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12. January 2006 @ 12:10 |
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and the thread was dead. close thread
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12. January 2006 @ 12:56 |
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@Rundata
We're trying to have a mature and civil discussion and even though I don't embrace the premise on which this thread was started it has turned out to be a noteworthy debate with no flame throwing and that imo speaks volumes and bodes well for this community. I have also seen Seniors and others both above and below on the totem pole make posts which defy the rules or certainly could be considered an infraction. It's an imperfect system and there will always be infractions. People are by and large temperamental and even the best of us at times will post something pointless. What is important is to not establish a record of doing so repeatedly.
@Xsilver
I agree with you on the point that this is a debate and might I add a decent one at that. I don't think you are, but just for the record don't feel offended that I singled you out earlier. You were the first advocate of this thread and hence I addressed my response to you et al. Regarding your following statement:
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What sought of groups or organizations do not let members question descisions made by its leaders?
I will leave you to draw your own conclusions.
Imho the question asked in the thread by Syphertek could easily have been asked in a less inflammatory way and would have been more well received. But obviuosly he felt incensed about it and posted with his emotions on his sleeve. I do not wholeheartedly agree with Lethal B that the authority of the Mods should not be questioned but the manner in which it is done is of paramount importance. I somehow recall seening an instance where a Mod closed a thread and subequently reopened it and apologised. It was reopened after he was PM'd by a few people. So ofcourse they can & will make mistakes and their authority can be questioned. They are afterall....only human. I would surmise that there are appropriate channels to pursue any questionable actions of a Mod and the public forum would not be my first choice. I'd PM either another Mod or the Mod in question and if I believe that I am being treated unjustly at this level then I'd seek audience with DRD or some other Admin Official. I don't think the Mods want to be perceived as ogres either. They are infact quite pleasant. Even.....the Nephster, lol.
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I see the same situation on several other forums I belong to where statis is regulated by post count. I guess it can't be helped but don't come down on the mods for doing their job. Most forums are set up to help members with problems not to become CHAT ROOMS.
Sorry if this rubs some members the wrong way but being a member here over 2 years makes me worry about the direction the main forums are going. If you want to boost your post count, try helping someone that has a problem.
I totally agree there, Jerry. 110%. You don't need to apologize for speaking your mind, and anyone who seems offended by your post is exactly the type of person being referred to.
I look at it this way. The forums with responsible Addicts & Senior members are the ones that are still in good organized shape. On the contrary hand, take a look at the gaming forums. They are an absolute disgrace. It's not through the fault of the moderators. All they can do is ban, edit and point to the rules.
But when you are dealing with such juvenile ignorant flamers as you find in the console forums, then the above powers that moderators possess become next to useless. So long as they keep coming back, keep flaming, and being so damn inconsiderate, I daresay the moderators are 'powerless' to stop it.
The other thing is, I know these forums are 'discussion forums' on paper, but the whole moral of the forum (well at least mine), is to help others. Take help and give help, and ddp's one liner 'teach & learn' sums it up. I, like others, just enjoy helping people. Don't do it for post count, don't do it for status, don't do it for the 'thank-you's' either. Just feel like I hae a duty here to get a job done & set a decent example as a Senior member going-on aDaddict.
To many n00bs in the Afterdawn game are playing for status.
The other day, I saw a senior member of whom I had never seen in my several months in these forum (obviously, I won't name-drop). Out of curiosity, I thought, "who are they? where do they post?" Took a peek in the gaming forums - low & behold - this person was locked in a flamewar and acting like someone than wouldn't even suffice in a teen forum on face of behaviour.. I feel disgusted that I am seen as at the 'same level' as people like this...
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12. January 2006 @ 13:34 |
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ok :)
read the whole of this thread,
i agree with free speech etc. but..all debates/meetings have to draw the line somewhere and that is why you have enforcers. ours are mods and they do a great job under difficult conditions. they take a lot of stick from all sorts but still manage to keep a bit of dignity and carry on helping ppl in spite of said abuse.
i spend several hrs a day lurking around here and i can assure you that if i had the button there would be a whole lot more threads closed than there is now.
don't panic though. its taken me a year to reach senior, and will take another couple for me to reach Addict, so the chances of me becoming a mod are remote
these guys have been given the dubious "honour" of being mods by being selected by the members of this forum as respected ppl, for the work and advise they have given
thats it i'm off to lurk
POWER TO YOU GUYS keep up the good work :)
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12. January 2006 @ 14:58 |
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I have never been on this forum before but have read up in recent days.
It is obvious that the ones whinging and moaning about threads being closed are the ones who in fact HIDE themselves in such forums without making any real contribution when help is requested in other forums.
I see one particular senior member has at least 3 pointless threads going, who CARES what others eat, I certainly DONT.
Get a life and get out and give some help where it's needed
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12. January 2006 @ 15:12 |
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@rundata----What you have stated is exactly what I am trying to get across in my post. There are now some senior members that make many useless posts. How did they become senior members, by making useless posts. In time they will become Addicts and still make useless posts. But letting them make these useless post as you say they should be allowed to do is what aggravates me. I like having fun as much as the next person but when that takes over the complete look of the forum as the number one thing to do then its time to do something about it. Its probably a good thing I don't have MOD under my name because I don't think I would have the patience that AD mods have with some members on here. I don't enter the games sections but have heard that part of the forum is a mess. Kids will be kids I guess. Too many changes in the last year.
Jerry
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12. January 2006 @ 15:25 |
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My suggestion to help curb unnecessary posts in the Safety Value for the purpose of building ones post count to achieve a higher member status...
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