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HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLAYING PAL GAMES ON NTSC TV!!!
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vgaddict8
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13. February 2006 @ 08:27 |
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It's just kind of wierd how you can play xbox PAL games on NTSC tv, but not on the gamecube.
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Venom5880
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13. February 2006 @ 18:10 |
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Gah, mah head hurts reading your posts...
Let's try a different approach.
YOU CAN PLAY PAL GAMES ON NTSC GAMECUBES ON NTSC TVS BY SETTING THE VIDEO MODE TO NTSC. What's so difficult to understand??
Also, Xbox handles the video mode without prompting the user as long as it has the default settings. That's why an NTSC Xbox will automatically output an NTSC signal regardless of whether the game is PAL or NTSC.
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vgaddict8
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13. February 2006 @ 20:22 |
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"YOU CAN PLAY PAL GAMES ON NTSC GAMECUBES ON NTSC TVS BY SETTING THE VIDEO MODE TO NTSC"- My video mode for the viper modchip is set to NTSC and the screen still shakes and is black when I load the game.
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vgaddict8
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13. February 2006 @ 20:24 |
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ozzyzak, you are the greatest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Brewgod23
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13. February 2006 @ 21:10 |
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I think it might be file you flashed the viper with. I flashed mine with Cobra 1.6 and I get scrolling and my friend uses the MDP with GSOC 1.5 and the same game works fine. I don't know if I should reflash my Viper with GCOS 1.5. I might lose the USB cabability if I do. I am not sure.
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vgaddict8
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14. February 2006 @ 08:44 |
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I am pretty my viper bios are not up to date. I flashed them last summer-I think they were version 1.4 or something like that. Does having the newer bio versions allow you to play PAL games better?
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silver95
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14. February 2006 @ 09:21 |
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*headdesk* For the love of Tech, if you have a problem with ANY software, MAKE SURE TO UPDATE TO THE MOST RECENT VERSION!
This goes for ALL programs! Newer versions try to iron out old bugs.
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Brewgod23
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14. February 2006 @ 11:26 |
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I am up to date on my BIOS and I still get scolling playing PAL games. I set my setting on the Viper-Extreme to NTSC and still I have scolling. I hate to flash it to GSOC 1.5 because I will lose the USB capability. I think.
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Venom5880
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14. February 2006 @ 15:38 |
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Either you guys are using the Viper chips wrong or the BIOS on it fails at video forcing...
Also, when you flash GCoS to it you aren't overwriting the Viper BIOS, you're flashing GCoS to it's onboard memory, which would ideally allow you to boot GCoS from the Viper GC Extreme's menu.
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Brewgod23
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14. February 2006 @ 21:19 |
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Thanks. That is what I wanted to know before I flashed it again. I don't want to loose my USB capability. I have read other people are having the same problem when forcing the Viper-Extreme to NTSC when you play a PAL backup. So I think it is a problem with the Cobra 1.6 BIOS.
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PDAisAok
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15. February 2006 @ 10:25 |
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I have a viper extreme chip with 1.6 bios also and when I try to load a PAL game (in this case RE4) it says I have 2 options for loading. Press A to load with Multi disc patch, but it says my GC lid is open. If I press B and do the direct load of the disc it loads the game, but loads in PAL, even though I've done forced NTSC in the Cobra bios. But if I press A and use the Multi disc patch, it goes to the Original Bios and says there isnt a disc loaded. Any ideas???
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Brewgod23
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15. February 2006 @ 16:49 |
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I ran a test today, here are my results:
Game - Viewtiful Joe (PAL)
GC - NTSC (US Version)
Mod Chip - Viper-Extreme
BIOS - Cobra 1.6
Force to NTSC
Result: I get scrolling even when I use auto detect (PAL/NTSC)
Flashed BIOS to GSOC 1.5
Result: It scrolls if I use auto detect (PAL/NTSC). If I force to NTSC game plays perfectly.
I tried to use the USB to backup game but the USB exectutible does not communicate. I loose the USB capability. The USB software requires Cobra 1.6.
I reflashed my Viper to Cobra 1.6 because the USB capability is much more important to me to backup my games.
Either GSOC BIOS comes up with a USB executible for the Viper or the Cobra BIOS fixes the Force to NTSC option will be the fix for this problem.
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vgaddict8
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15. February 2006 @ 17:55 |
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WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Venom5880
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15. February 2006 @ 18:02 |
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*eye twitches*
Auto detect is going to use whatever video standard the game uses by default. As in, if you play an NTSC game it's going to have an NTSC signal and if you play a PAL game it will always output a PAL signal. This means that Auto Detect was working properly.
PLEASE tell me you weren't expecting Auto Detect to load everything in NTSC because you have an NTSC GC. There should be an option that explicitly states that it will force it to NTSC or something like Video Mode (Game): NTSC.
How about telling us what options are available and what you can change them to. It doesn't seem like you guys know what the options mean, so I'd like to interpret them myself.
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Brewgod23
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15. February 2006 @ 19:23 |
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When using the Cobra 1.6 BIOS I switched to NTSC and selected Save and Exit. I powered doen the gamecube and powered back on. Now my GC will output all game to NTSC format. Still my video was scrolling when using Cobra 1.6. When using GSOC and forced the format to NTSC the game play perfectly.
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vgaddict8
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15. February 2006 @ 22:04 |
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Brewgod23, what do you mean by GSOC? What is this?
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Brewgod23
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16. February 2006 @ 06:09 |
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My bad. I mean GCOS 1.5.
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vgaddict8
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16. February 2006 @ 10:28 |
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GCOS 1.5? what is this? Bios? I have never heard of it.
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PDAisAok
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16. February 2006 @ 11:46 |
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I've also adjusted my POT to 180 and I burn DVDs at 1x. I've tried Sony DVD-R and Memorex and I still get a lot of DRE problems. I'm burning on a Sony writer as well. Has anyone had better luck with other DVD-R brands. I've read that Ritek is the most reliable. Anyone have luck with anything else?
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ozzyzak
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16. February 2006 @ 12:23 |
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I haven't but apparently others have. Personally the Ritek minis dont set me back much. I can get 20 of em for about 20 bucks. Sure they're expensive compared to the regular discs but if you have enough money to have more than 20 gamecube games, I would think you could shell out an extra 20 to back them all up.
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Brewgod23
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16. February 2006 @ 12:40 |
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vgaddict8
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16. February 2006 @ 13:30 |
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Wow!!! OK.... So they are just operating systems? This stuff is so Scary!!!!!! I am not going to try to program my gamecube again. The first time I did it, this little blue strip at the back of the programmer fell off, and I thought I was screwed for life. Turns out I put that blue strip back and it still works. Programming it again, is just to risky for me.
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Venom5880
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16. February 2006 @ 14:19 |
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Memorex recordable media is more often not, bad media to use for game back-ups. Works fine for movies (so far), but hasn't worked for me with both Xbox and GameCube back-ups.
Can't say much about Sony DVD media, but the writers aren't that great from what I've seen others post. Get a $40 NEC multiformat DVD burner off Newegg and you'll be set.
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vgaddict8
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23. February 2006 @ 09:00 |
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I just got cobra bios 1.6 flashed and I change vidoe mode to NSTC, loaded a PAL game and the screen still flickers. It doesn't work.
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ozzyzak
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23. February 2006 @ 09:16 |
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Don't feel too bad, I've never got it to work either...
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